Two things. Firstly, you don't have Scheafer and Misa alone in tier 1 and don't think KD does either? You posted 5-6 guys as being in KD's tier 1 of the draft.

Second, if the Hawks drop down to 5-6 in your scenario to move up later in the 1st rd highly unlikely Martone is available.

Let's say he likes Spence but has Martone and Hagens alone in tier 2 use other draft/prospect capital to move up or outright trade for the 17-20 pick to grab Spence.

But if he has Frondell and Desyorners rated with Hagens and Martone, hell yea trade down and add assets and STILL get your guy... That's just good GMing and hope he scrubs that possibility with every pick.
- Mr Ricochet

Yes they’re in tier 1 but irrelevant since we have pick 3 so I put them all in tier 1 and said if they feel there isn’t much difference between Hagens, Martone, Desnoyers, and Frondell then they should trade back and get whoever falls to them at #5 which could be any of those four imo. Preds have favored Hagens & Frondell according to many experts and if so, then either Martone or Desnoyers would fall to Hawks at #5.
Add Martone or Desnoyers, Spence, and Ryabkin to this pipeline and Hawks are in unbelievable shape coming out of the 1st round alone. Ryabkin is supposedly very sinilar to Demidov and we know how Kyle felt about Demidov. If they miss on Ryabkin, Ryker Lee should be there at 27.

Yea but the Tkachuk Brothers are good skaters, much more fluid than Martone, way quicker step
- BetweenTheDots

What do you mean by fluid?

Yes they’re in tier 1 but irrelevant since we have pick 3 so I put them all in tier 1 and said if they feel there isn’t much difference between Hagens, Martone, Desnoyers, and Frondell then they should trade back and get whoever falls to them at #5 which could be any of those four imo. Preds have favored Hagens & Frondell according to many experts and if so, then either Martone or Desnoyers would fall to Hawks at #5.
Add Martone or Desnoyers, Spence, and Ryabkin to this pipeline and Hawks are in unbelievable shape coming out of the 1st round alone. Ryabkin is supposedly very sinilar to Demidov and we know how Kyle felt about Demidov. If they miss on Ryabkin, Ryker Lee should be there at 27.
- Assman22

You know watching all those highlights i couldn't help seeing some showtime in Hagens

Yea but the Tkachuk Brothers are good skaters, much more fluid than Martone, way quicker step
- BetweenTheDots

I am getting more on the Martone bandwagon by the day .Sounds like a difference maker ,And a player you love on your team ,and can't stand if he on the opposition .We will need some of that fire .And I believe we would regret not picking him .

What do you mean by fluid?
- paulr

Skating in different directions where Martone doesn't look like he flows as well as the Tkachuk Brothers

Then again Pat Maroon had a nice NHL career

I am getting more on the Martone bandwagon by the day .Sounds like a difference maker ,And a player you love on your team ,and can't stand if he on the opposition .We will need some of that fire .And I believe we would regret not picking him .
- oldduffman

He looks like he has some really really nice mitts for a bigger player.

If Misa isn’t available and the Hawks can’t trade down for him, draft Martone then try to work out a deal with Seattle for Martone’s teammate Carson Rehkopf a big 6’3 winger who skates very well, has been very productive in junior and is very physical. He was drafted in 2023 so he’s 20 now and closer to being NHL ready.

He looks like he has some really really nice mitts for a bigger player.
- BetweenTheDots

And a willingness to go too the front of the net ,them mitts will come in handy .

Skating in different directions where Martone doesn't look like he flows as well as the Tkachuk Brothers

Then again Pat Maroon had a nice NHL career
- BetweenTheDots

I’m not against drafting Hagens if Misa and Schaefer are taken. I’m leaning towards Desnoyers or Frondell. I’d be ok with Martone but he’s not at the top of my list.

I suspect KD will trade the pick for immediate help. Trading top 3 picks doesn’t happen often, but the Hawks are in a position to do so. KD can trade #3 to the Islanders for Barzal (both sides would add more). The Islanders get their top defenseman (Schaefer) and a local boy who could be a star and Islander for life (Hagens). The Hawks get immediate help and someone to play with Bedard.

I’m not against drafting Hagens if Misa and Schaefer are taken. I’m leaning towards Desnoyers or Frondell. I’d be ok with Martone but he’s not at the top of my list.

I suspect KD will trade the pick for immediate help. Trading top 3 picks doesn’t happen often, but the Hawks are in a position to do so. KD can trade #3 to the Islanders for Barzal (both sides would add more). The Islanders get their top defenseman (Schaefer) and a local boy who could be a star and Islander for life (Hagens). The Hawks get immediate help and someone to play with Bedard.
- DarthKane

imo I m notbgiving up the 3rd overall pick just for barzal maybe if Richie and 1st is included then might consider it but most likely no plus barzal is often injured. Maybe a trade of tage Thompson and jj perterka and the 9th for the 3rd overall pick might something to think about second line center top six winger and at 9 take Brady Martin

I’m not against drafting Hagens if Misa and Schaefer are taken. I’m leaning towards Desnoyers or Frondell. I’d be ok with Martone but he’s not at the top of my list.

I suspect KD will trade the pick for immediate help. Trading top 3 picks doesn’t happen often, but the Hawks are in a position to do so. KD can trade #3 to the Islanders for Barzal (both sides would add more). The Islanders get their top defenseman (Schaefer) and a local boy who could be a star and Islander for life (Hagens). The Hawks get immediate help and someone to play with Bedard.
- DarthKane

Not on board with that at all. Barzal is a walking ER .They better have a whole lot more coming back . I would like Martone ,so that won't happen . But steer clear of Barzal .Barzal = T hall .

imo I m notbgiving up the 3rd overall pick just for barzal maybe if Richie and 1st is included then might consider it but most likely no plus barzal is often injured. Maybe a trade of tage Thompson and jj perterka and the 9th for the 3rd overall pick might something to think about second line center top six winger and at 9 take Brady Martin
- Scott1977

After Schaefer and Misa there are a handful of guys the Hawks could take. There’s not a lot of separation between those guys.

If there’s someone Philly wants the Hawks could trade #3 and Toronto’s pick for #6 and the better of Philly’s next 2 first round picks. The Flyers would have to add something more, maybe pick #40 or #45.

I’m not against drafting Hagens if Misa and Schaefer are taken. I’m leaning towards Desnoyers or Frondell. I’d be ok with Martone but he’s not at the top of my list.

I suspect KD will trade the pick for immediate help. Trading top 3 picks doesn’t happen often, but the Hawks are in a position to do so. KD can trade #3 to the Islanders for Barzal (both sides would add more). The Islanders get their top defenseman (Schaefer) and a local boy who could be a star and Islander for life (Hagens). The Hawks get immediate help and someone to play with Bedard.
- DarthKane

Trade Chicago’s third overall for Cal Ritchie and the Islanders first (not lottery protected) In a deeper draft next year.

Trade Chicago’s third overall for Cal Ritchie and the Islanders first (not lottery protected) In a deeper draft next year.
- paulr

We have a trade to announce. Chicago is trading it's 1st round pick, 3rd over all, to Montreal for Demidov... hahahaha

https://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2025/05/12/lets-talk-about-a-few-potential-blackhawks-2025-nhl-draft-trades/

Let's breakdown another of "Tab"'s trade proposals:

All the Blackhawks need to give up to get MISA is

Islanders Receive: Pick No. 3 overall in 2025 NHL Draft, Chicago’s second-round pick in the 2026 NHL Draft, Lukas Reichel, RFA rights to Wyatt Kaiser.

...this allows Hagens to be selected at #3

Tab's deluded idea of hockey is centered on this: "The Isles might be willing to move the RFA rights to defenseman Noah Dobson this summer; Kaiser is an NHL-ready defenseman who would be significantly cheaper to sign than Dobson this summer."

Why would they move Dobson?

But moreover to even see Kaiser close to a replacement seems more than ridiculous.
- wiz1901

Most trade proposals this time of year from a fanbase are utterly ridiculous.


that said, if someone were to propose the Seth Jones trade right now, i would say that's ridiculous, no GM would do that, so there's a chance i guess

Most trade proposals this time of year from a fanbase are utterly ridiculous.


- vabeachbear

Scott917717 says hi

I’m not against drafting Hagens if Misa and Schaefer are taken. I’m leaning towards Desnoyers or Frondell. I’d be ok with Martone but he’s not at the top of my list.

I suspect KD will trade the pick for immediate help. Trading top 3 picks doesn’t happen often, but the Hawks are in a position to do so. KD can trade #3 to the Islanders for Barzal (both sides would add more). The Islanders get their top defenseman (Schaefer) and a local boy who could be a star and Islander for life (Hagens). The Hawks get immediate help and someone to play with Bedard.
- DarthKane

I have to admit the more i watch Martone he doesn't remind me of the Tkachuks, i see a lot of Corey Perry in him in the ozone.

Scott917717 says hi
- Assman22

So…he’s from the future…🤔

I have to admit the more i watch Martone he doesn't remind me of the Tkachuks, i see a lot of Corey Perry in him in the ozone.
- BetweenTheDots

Prime Corey Perry > or < Tkachuks, in your opinion?

Prime Corey Perry > or < Tkachuks, in your opinion?
- Assman22

I've always felt Corey Perry almost always knew what the goalie was going to do before he did it, greater or less, i think all 3 are good hockey players. If he is like Perry in that regard he might score a lot points in the NHL.

My only question is did Martone and Misa inflate their value by being on the same team/ line

My only question is did Martone and Misa inflate their value by being on the same team/ line
- BetweenTheDots

You’re thinking Luke Misa, not Michael.

Skating in different directions where Martone doesn't look like he flows as well as the Tkachuk Brothers

Then again Pat Maroon had a nice NHL career
- BetweenTheDots

He wasn’t the #3 pick.

The history is irrelevant, any team losing because of one situation, wasn’t much of a team.
- paulr

Stuart Skinner did his best to give that series away. I think LA played hard and took advantage of their chances, but it's hard to match up against McDavid, Draisaitl and Bouchard in the playoffs.

All said and done we should get a good player, it's probably 2-3 years before whomever they pick is playing regular NHL minutes and is "up to speed" anyway.

I think it's unlikely the Hawks deal the 3rd overall pick as I don't think we get an impact player with it. I think it's entirely possible that we'll see "long term" Nazar move to 1C and Bedard move to W.

Target a couple UFAs for the forward group. Boeser, Ehlers, Tavares, Duchene, Granlund, Bennett, Marchand, Nelson, or someone like that depending on price/term.

I would shop Bertuzzi/Richardenson starting at the draft.