For me it's the unforced errors, he just has to many of them, losing inside position, errand passes, on a power play for whatever reason being outside the blue line just to name a few
- BetweenTheDots

Personally, I just never found that to be a problem and I would argue that if it was so egregious and repeated he wouldn't be getting 27 minutes a night and playing more than anyone on both teams. NHL coaches don't put up with unforced errors IMO.

Personally, I just never found that to be a problem and I would argue that if it was so egregious and repeated he wouldn't be getting 27 minutes a night and playing more than anyone on both teams. NHL coaches don't put up with unforced errors IMO.
- breadbag

It doesn't help number 5 has looked like crap either, I'm not a gambling man but i wouldn't be surprised if Jones is on the ice if the Leafs won this game

Another good game between the Leafs and Panthers

Buddy just texted he bet the Mets and that Tallion is starting. Looking forward to this series.... I have to do the same thing with my boss. Something on the big screen we watch together and I have a game on the laptop muted.

Dots, I haven't seen 1 USHL game, only 3-4 QMJHL games and the Euro's are always hard to get a big sample size of. So, by no means have I seen enough, never do, but from what I've seen of Hagens he's probably been the most skilled player on the ice and I watched his tryouts for The Program as a 16 yr old along with Eiserman IIRC.

But, skill doesn't always make the best hockey player and many organIzations covet different traits........ You can be sure KD will get a super skilled guy at 3 even with Misa and Scheafer are off the board. If that's what he wants. But he just may think at 3 Martone is the best hockey player and he wouldn't be alone.
- Mr Ricochet

You know Rico i took one of my lighter 50 inch tvs and I'm enjoying some wine a fine cigar and watching hockey on my patio, technology is really something else, streaming the games off my phone onto the big screen

On top of it had home run inn pizza tonight, my wife brought me home some Weber's coffee cake to snack on, what a good evening

You know Rico i took one of my lighter 50 inch tvs and I'm enjoying some wine a fine cigar and watching hockey on my patio, technology is really something else, streaming the games off my phone onto the big screen

On top of it had home run inn pizza tonight, my wife brought me home some Weber's coffee cake to snack on, what a good evening
- BetweenTheDots

Daily double right there.

On draft day if the Islanders choose the consensus number one Matthew Schaefer, San Jose lose getting their defenseman. Is it a good idea if KD flips picks and adds a defensive prospect like Korchinski so he can draft Michael Misa?

On draft day if the Islanders choose the consensus number one Matthew Schaefer, San Jose lose getting their defenseman. Is it a good idea if KD flips picks and adds a defensive prospect like Korchinski so he can draft Michael Misa?
- paulr

If Kyle deems Misa is that much better than everyone else left in the draft, then maybe but wouldn't it make more sense to trade assets for Knies than Misa if you're gonna go that route?
To me, if Misa/Schaefer are off the board, then Kyle should try his best to trade back. See if there's a team that's locked in on one of the prospects not named Misa/Schaefer and make a deal. On the outside looking in, there doesn't seem to be too much distance between Martone, Hagens, Desnoyers, and Frondell.
Also, I'm wondering if there's a team in the top 6-10 that won't be picking BPA and will reach for a D like Mrtka/Aitcheson thus causing a forward to fall.

Daily double right there.
- 6628

After I read dots post, I immediately looked up the location of the bakery adding it to my firts trip back into town...

On draft day if the Islanders choose the consensus number one Matthew Schaefer, San Jose lose getting their defenseman. Is it a good idea if KD flips picks and adds a defensive prospect like Korchinski so he can draft Michael Misa?
- paulr

Yeah, I was trying to convince myself this COULD happen too, but couldn't...

Is Porter Martone and low valued still basically unsuccessful unestablished top powerplay type defender enough to convince your SJ fanbase your team improved by passing on the 60 goal sniper in Misa?

I look at their farm and I guess Quentin Musty, Carson Wetsch, & Kasper Halttunen aren't ever going to be as good in front as Porter Martone, so that does provide some basis for SJ to maybe drop down a slot, but I am not sure with LD Sam Richardinson drafted, if they think KK gets their SJ GM Verbeek to do back flips for a trade down.

if they think KK gets their SJ GM Verbeek to do back flips for a trade down.
- wiz1901

Grier - SJ GM
Verbeek - Anaheim GM
And agree with what you said. Thoughts on trading back with Trotz/Preds - 3 and 34 for 5 and 21?

On draft day if the Islanders choose the consensus number one Matthew Schaefer, San Jose lose getting their defenseman. Is it a good idea if KD flips picks and adds a defensive prospect like Korchinski so he can draft Michael Misa?
- paulr

I would do it ,not sure that makes it a good idea .

Grier - SJ GM
Verbeek - Anaheim GM
And agree with what you said. Thoughts on trading back with Trotz/Preds - 3 and 34 for 5 and 21?
- Assman22

I'd try to pry away a young forward prospect from the Preds instead of the 21st pick. Maybe Mathew Wood ? It's supposed to be a weaker draft and who would you get at 21 and how long would it take him to develop? I was all in on accumulating picks in recent years, but maybe it's about time to add good young players more ready to contribute at a NHL level now.

You know Rico i took one of my lighter 50 inch tvs and I'm enjoying some wine a fine cigar and watching hockey on my patio, technology is really something else, streaming the games off my phone onto the big screen

On top of it had home run inn pizza tonight, my wife brought me home some Weber's coffee cake to snack on, what a good evening
- BetweenTheDots

Life is good, Dots!.......... Weber's Bakery on Archer on the southside??? As good a bakery as there is. Weekend mornings they are lined up 6-8 deep on Archer waiting in line.

Can't overstate how far technology has come in a short time. Simply said you can watch anything that interests you. Somehow I ended up a dirt race fan and unless your at a race you had zero options a couple short yrs ago. Now, it's all streamed and pretty professionally done too.

Same with jrs hockey. Really hard to follow 5ish yrs ago, today you have it all being streamed. .... Makes for well rounded fans who have access to different developmental levels.

On draft day if the Islanders choose the consensus number one Matthew Schaefer, San Jose lose getting their defenseman. Is it a good idea if KD flips picks and adds a defensive prospect like Korchinski so he can draft Michael Misa?
- paulr

I was hoping SJ got the 1st overall. They've got a nice young group, up front mostly, and adding Scheafer to that club would unlock all that top end talent.

I can see this. If it's Misa KD covets dealing from depth, the young Dmen, is ideal. If I'm SJ and wanted Scheafer I can deal from strength, not needing Misa with Smith and Celebrini real top end prospect centerman, I can still add a Dman with the pedigree of a 7th overall in KK.

Is KK enough to flop picks? I think he is cuz I do believe he's a 2nd pairing, 2nd PP, guy. I'm redundant here but KK reminds me of Chabot. Took him awhile, I know I had him early in fantasy, but as he grew into being a man he gained the strength to go with his skating to impact games.

On draft day if the Islanders choose the consensus number one Matthew Schaefer, San Jose lose getting their defenseman. Is it a good idea if KD flips picks and adds a defensive prospect like Korchinski so he can draft Michael Misa?
- paulr

Too much to give up on an unknown to move up one pick.

PuckPedia Perri Pick Value Calculator
For the isles to agree to switch pick one for three, the Blackhawks would have to include the 2025 2nd (TOR) , both 2025 2nd Rounders (Dallas) and their 2nd in 2026, and 2027

but if that is the guy, it means you actually used your capital and kept and added capital to use in future drafts as the pipeline can slow now with another scorer added.

Grier - SJ GM
Verbeek - Anaheim GM (yeah I fd-up0
might be not that easy to deal with...

Yeah
And agree with what you said. Thoughts on trading back with Trotz/Preds - 3 and 34 for 5 and 21?
- Assman22

The same puckpedia draft pick/ trade calculator says that is toomuch for the Hawks to give up to move back.
I just don't think Kyle is patient enough to hope they guy you (they) are thinking about five WILL be there, and it is worth the guarantee he is at THREE.

Too much to give up on an unknown to move up one pick.
- rpeters01

Do you feel KK is a known? And if so you like his known to Misa upside? .... It's probably fair to add the positional depth at D you're dealing from and need at a forward with size that plays center in your evaluation of my two questions.

Try providing a little more context on that trade.
- HawkintheD

In my opinion, all KD needed was a quote from Kane that he was open to a trade to a legit contender. Then he could have gotten leverage for a market return. Did KD do everything possible to get that quote from Kane or his agent? Can't wait to read KD's book to find out.

What did you think of the Jones trade? I’m guessing he retained too much, should have gotten Barkov or something better than Knight and a 1st inreturn?
- HawkintheD

Time will tell.

Knight looked amazing in his first couple of games. After that he looked average. Hope the mental issues are in his past. Love that he's 6'3". I am not sure if he is a top 10 NHL goalie. Will take a couple of years to see.

First round picks are fluky 1/3rd of the NHL is made up of 1st round picks, 50% of those players were drafted top 12. The Florida pick is bottom of the first. Takes time to grade it.

What really bothered me around the deadline with KD was Donato. Had a career year in his contract year. Why KD didn't make a deal or get him signed does not make sense to me. Seems like he is going to test UFA which he deserves but if he leaves for nothing or the Hawks have to sign him after getting bid up by the league, not a good look.

Well, when the guy with the No movement clause only wants to go to one team, you take what you are offered. This was more about making Kane happy than improving the team. Things like that echo through the league as it shows the GM cares about the players. The Mrazek trade was another "make the player happy" trade as he would have been the press box goaltender, defender of the nachos.

Like KD saying he wasn't going to resign Toews in the offseason before the last game. This gave Toews his last hurrah in Chicago. KD is damn smart and is building up equity in possible signings. He shows that he will do his best to help out a player while improving his team.
- wizardofi

Very understandable and gentlemanly take on it.

Loyalty, appreciation, and dignity are admirable traits.

For an NHL team, I prefer the Vegas route. McCrimmon is ruthless in improving his team and feelings are low on the totem pole. Fluery, Marchessault, and Reilly were all cut at the knees. Still, Saad gave up a few million dollars for a chance to win the Cup there. The lingering effects of merciless NHL leadership aren't all bad.

Do you feel KK is a known? And if so you like his known to Misa upside? .... It's probably fair to add the positional depth at D you're dealing from and need at a forward with size that plays center in your evaluation of my two questions.
- Mr Ricochet

Yeah, it looks to me by 25 KK will be as good or better than Campbell who also took 5 years to develop. They were all unknown at one time, today you wouldn't trade KK and Fantilli for Bedard which you probably would have done in a heartbeat two years ago.

In my opinion, all KD needed was a quote from Kane that he was open to a trade to a legit contender. Then he could have gotten leverage for a market return. Did KD do everything possible to get that quote from Kane or his agent? Can't wait to read KD's book to find out.
- stevefrmglencoe

Kane didn't just want a contender, he wanted a contender within driving distance of his father. Kane also waited until after Tarasenko was traded which lowered what the Rangers could offer.

Interesting tidbits about the Hawks coaching search from Pope’s article this morning.

The comment about why Richardson was fired is the first I have seen it in print.

The Hawks fired Luke Richardson back in December in part because his system wasn’t giving Bedard enough freedom and because he wasn’t personally focused enough on Bedard’s development. Interim coach Anders Sorensen spent a much larger percentage of his time working with Bedard and designing ways to help him succeed, and the next coach will need to do the same.

During exit interviews last month, Davidson said he hoped to hire a coach earlier this offseason than he did in 2022, when he was still calling about interview permissions at the draft combine before eventually hiring Richardson in late June. This year’s draft combine will take place June 1-7, so it’s only a few weeks away.

In addition to the Hawks’ uplifting final two weeks of the season — have probably increased Sorensen’s chances of getting the permanent job, which once seemed virtually nil. It’s still not likely, but it now seems plausible.

Davidson said Monday that Sorensen is “certainly in the mix,” raving about the way the Hawks’ young players talked about (and to) Sorensen during exit interviews. Along that line, there’s really no question he checks the desired boxes related to player development; his work with Frank Nazar, for example, demonstrated that.

But Sorensen didn’t seem as adept as Richardson at maintaining morale and unity in the locker room, and he has no prior experience in terms of coaching to win at the NHL level. Many Hawks fans would also react negatively to his hiring, perceiving it as the organization settling for a cheap and easy option after getting spurned by higher-profile candidates.

Time will tell.

Knight looked amazing in his first couple of games. After that he looked average. Hope the mental issues are in his past. Love that he's 6'3". I am not sure if he is a top 10 NHL goalie. Will take a couple of years to see.

First round picks are fluky 1/3rd of the NHL is made up of 1st round picks, 50% of those players were drafted top 12. The Florida pick is bottom of the first. Takes time to grade it.

What really bothered me around the deadline with KD was Donato. Had a career year in his contract year. Why KD didn't make a deal or get him signed does not make sense to me. Seems like he is going to test UFA which he deserves but if he leaves for nothing or the Hawks have to sign him after getting bid up by the league, not a good look.
- stevefrmglencoe

While some here will agree with you on Donato, I’m going to respectfully disagree. I would never sign a career fourth liner that all of a sudden had a year that he’ll probably never achieve again. I’d let another team overpay. Why wasn’t he traded? Obviously KD did not get a good enough offer, sometimes it’s best to walk away from a low offer, which in turn will help with a future negotiation, especially when dealing with a bottom six player that can easily be replaced. If the question is how do you replace those 30 goals, well not with Donato, as he’ll never sniff last years totals ever again. Just my $0.02.