Nee mock draft from clutchpoints is out. They have us selecting konsta helenius one pick before Sam Richardinson goes

Maybe it's just me....but... I'd be highly upset if they choose helenius over Richardinson.
Richardinson seems like a solid top 4 dman at the least.

Who would you rather see the flyers take?

They had yakemchuck taken by Buffalo at 11OA
- Bob Habib

I like Helenius a lot. A RH centerman playing in Finnish's top league is impressive. My concern with D*ckinson is how many top level prospects were driving that London bus? Maybe D*ckinson turns out to be best.

walker went to a cup contender. why on earth would he feel the need to make any comment about it whatsoever?


you're asking a lot of questions that show me you just don't get it. i will attempt to explain this again to you. things leak out to people like EF for a reason. they want it to be known. what they don't want you to know, you won't know - as we've seen with the Cutter situation and Michkov being in Voorhees.

you let it be known you "tried to sign him/wanted him here" because A) it drives up the price when other teams think we're not desperate to get rid of him. B) it tells the players and fans that they are not just giving up on the season when you still had a shot at the playoffs. "we tried - but in the end we did what was best for the team moving forward"

you acting like they had some tough sessions of negotiations and couldn't get it done and passing it off as fact is hilarious - and it just shows you're a gullible stooge who believes everything a GM says OR you're being obtuse so you have a reason to whine about something i.e. trading Walker and getting a first.

take a lap
- anti-lame

- drives up the price lol. give me a fn break. his value didn't change because the flyers wanted to bring him back. comical

- tell the fans they are not giving up more horse schitt from you. yes they couldn't get it done hence why he was moved you dip schitt. they wisely didn't give walker what he wanted.

- you are the flyers apologist gullible stooge who believes they are the gold standard.

- it cracks me up you think they "leaked" they tried to sign him but actually didn't try. entertainment.

- accept the fact they wanted him back and tried. when that didn't pan out then and only then was he traded.

- can you share any inside info from dad for us gullible peeps?

- still didn't answer the question. Cliff can take over from here you're entering lamont territory.

- drives up the price lol. give me a fn break. his value didn't change because the flyers wanted to bring him back. comical

- tell the fans they are not giving up more horse schitt from you. yes they couldn't get it done hence why he was moved you dip schitt. they wisely didn't give walker what he wanted.

- you are the flyers apologist gullible stooge who believes they are the gold standard.

- it cracks me up you think they "leaked" they tried to sign him but actually didn't try. entertainment.

- accept the fact they wanted him back and tried. when that didn't pan out then and only then was he traded.

- can you share any inside info from dad for us gullible peeps?

- still didn't answer the question. Cliff can take over from here you're entering lamont territory.
- hello it's me 2050

actions speak louder than words.

let me know when you're back from taking that lap.

I like Helenius a lot. A RH centerman playing in Finnish's top league is impressive. My concern with D*ckinson is how many top level prospects were driving that London bus? Maybe D*ckinson turns out to be best.
- Trox88

Watched a lot of Diickanson this year as I wanted to follow Bonk and Barkey..he’s very big, very skilled and above average skater…great I Q…and still 17 as of today….they can’t go wrong with him if he was still there.

Nee mock draft from clutchpoints is out. They have us selecting konsta helenius one pick before Sam Richardinson goes

Maybe it's just me....but... I'd be highly upset if they choose helenius over Richardinson.
Richardinson seems like a solid top 4 dman at the least.

Who would you rather see the flyers take?

They had yakemchuck taken by Buffalo at 11OA
- Bob Habib

I doubt D!ckinson falls that far but if he does and they pass on him for a forward, then they’re idiots. Helenius is likely at best a 2C. D!ckinson has 1D potential.

Watched a lot of Diickanson this year as I wanted to follow Bonk and Barkey..he’s very big, very skilled and above average skater…great I Q…and still 17 as of today….they can’t go wrong with him if he was still there.
- landros 2

I think D$ckinson measurables included 4% body fat. I really doubt he makes it to 12. I still rate Helenius highly. I believe he is getting dinged for his tournament results, which I find puzzling because of his production in Finland's top league as a 17 yr old. Plus, I value RH centermen for absolutely no quantitative reason.

I think D$ckinson measurables included 4% body fat. I really doubt he makes it to 12. I still rate Helenius highly. I believe he is getting dinged for his tournament results, which I find puzzling because of his production in Finland's top league as a 17 yr old. Plus, I value RH centermen for absolutely no quantitative reason.
- Trox88

I’m fine with either. Demidov is my preference…but after that there’s like 10 guys I’d be totally fine with.

I’m fine with either. Demidov is my preference…but after that there’s like 10 guys I’d be totally fine with.
- landros 2

Agreed on Demidov, I think he is clearly the second best prospect in this draft.

Are you saying the decision to trade him wasn’t easy?

If you’re truly rebuilding then that’s a very easy decision. He was a 29 yr old defenseman having a career year. You absolutely sell high on a player like that. Just like they should have with Seeler.

Rebuilding or not, you don’t invest long term in a player who just had a significant outlier season this late in their career. That’s how you get into salary cap hell.
- Schmojo

I would not have resigned the guy either BUT they could have made a lot of money getting into the POs and even if they didn’t know what was going to happen, they jeopardized that possibility. So I agree with you, they should not have resigned the guy, but give them credit for actually trading the guy. Some folks are acting like you should dismiss any actions that they do towards a rebuild because they haven’t ripped it all done yet. I say, wait and see. ‘Yet’ is hopefully the key word. If TK is resigned, I’m beyond pissed. If Laughton is on the team, I’m not jumping off a bridge because I think the return will be underwhelming.

I would not have resigned the guy either BUT they could have made a lot of money getting into the POs and even if they didn’t know what was going to happen, they jeopardized that possibility. So I agree with you, they should not have resigned the guy, but give them credit for actually trading the guy. Some folks are acting like you should dismiss any actions that they do towards a rebuild because they haven’t ripped it all done yet. I say, wait and see. ‘Yet’ is hopefully the key word. If TK is resigned, I’m beyond pissed. If Laughton is on the team, I’m not jumping off a bridge because I think the return will be underwhelming.
- coffee junkie

I see what you’re saying, completely agree. With Laughton, I think it makes sense to be patient since he has 2 years left and they can wait for a team to overpay. My hope is with how Bennett has played in the playoffs it’ll raise the value of those kinda guys around the league, like Laughton.

I would not have resigned the guy either BUT they could have made a lot of money getting into the POs and even if they didn’t know what was going to happen, they jeopardized that possibility. So I agree with you, they should not have resigned the guy, but give them credit for actually trading the guy. Some folks are acting like you should dismiss any actions that they do towards a rebuild because they haven’t ripped it all done yet. I say, wait and see. ‘Yet’ is hopefully the key word. If TK is resigned, I’m beyond pissed. If Laughton is on the team, I’m not jumping off a bridge because I think the return will be underwhelming.
- coffee junkie

i have no problem resigning Seeler. folks act like players are dead at age 30.

as for the walker deal - sometimes deals just work for both teams - not every trade has to be a fleecing. We were happy to turn walker into a first, the Avs were happy to get RyJo out of their locker room, Torts is happy to end his career. Everybody wins! (except RyJo)

I like Helenius a lot. A RH centerman playing in Finnish's top league is impressive. My concern with D*ckinson is how many top level prospects were driving that London bus? Maybe D*ckinson turns out to be best.
- Trox88

Helenius sounds like a solid prospect but that league isn't well known for its top scoring centers (aside from barkov)
Olli jokinen, granlund, and kakko are the 4 guys who have scored more I'm that league than Helenius has. If we do take HH I hope he leans more towards a barkov type than a granlund type player.
You're right about Richardinson though. That team is stacked. I haven't watched much of him but what I have seen he looks solid and plays heavy.
I'm still hoping/waiting for catton to fall to us. I'm also interested in yakemchuk the more I watch his videos and read his reports

No reason at all to buyout Atkinson. Let him either find his game or let him ride pine. Ride out the contract and be done with it.

Buying out Atkinson is what badly run, inpatient organizations do.
- StepfordSam

Totally agree

If he wins the Stanley Cup....is he Hall of Fame?

2 Vezinas, Presidents Cup, Stanley Cup, possible Conn Smythe, 700 gp, will hit 400 wins next season (at 396)

Is he a Hall of Famer? I think so.

Traded for a second rounder, to make room for Bryzgalov.
- TheFreak

That is incorrect. Yes,he was traded because of absolutely ill conceived Bryz signing, but Bryz's contract was already on the books, when Bob requested trade. Flyers and Snyder had made a poor evaluation of the goaltending situation at the time and looked for a big name (rather than trusting Bob). Lavy's goaltender management surely muddied the water. And so Bryz was signed for a long term contract, relegating Bob to a back up for forever.
Bryz should have been vetted much better, prior to offering him that deal.

Another in a long line of bad decisions by the Flyers.
- Letterkenney

All Snyder, he wanted Bryz

Helenius sounds like a solid prospect but that league isn't well known for its top scoring centers (aside from barkov)
Olli jokinen, granlund, and kakko are the 4 guys who have scored more I'm that league than Helenius has. If we do take HH I hope he leans more towards a barkov type than a granlund type player.
You're right about Richardinson though. That team is stacked. I haven't watched much of him but what I have seen he looks solid and plays heavy.
I'm still hoping/waiting for catton to fall to us. I'm also interested in yakemchuk the more I watch his videos and read his reports
- Bob Habib

I will certainly concede trying to project prospects is extremely difficult. I do believe there is just this stigma attached when talking heads say "projects as 2C" for Helenius. Watching some of his games, he seems to me to be a better skating, less physical version of Mike Richards playing at Kitchener. Was Richards a 1C before the addiction issues? Richards had 4 straight seasons for the Flyers when he scored 75, 80, 62, and 66 points (3 of those seasons 28-31 goals).

Your comments on Finnish league are certainly pause for concern, no doubt. I agree with you on Catton, I like him a lot. The only question from what I have about Catton is he may have to play wing- still could be very dynamic. Not read really anything that Helenius won't be a center.

Like most others, I'm pretty open to just about any prospect the Flyers have been mentioned. The only 3 that I would be somewhat disappointed - Lindstrom (medical), Sennecke, and Luchanko.

No reason at all to buyout Atkinson. Let him either find his game or let him ride pine. Ride out the contract and be done with it.

Buying out Atkinson is what badly run, inpatient organizations do.
- StepfordSam

So you’re telling me there’s a chance…

Helenius sounds like a solid prospect but that league isn't well known for its top scoring centers (aside from barkov)
Olli jokinen, granlund, and kakko are the 4 guys who have scored more I'm that league than Helenius has. If we do take HH I hope he leans more towards a barkov type than a granlund type player.
You're right about Richardinson though. That team is stacked. I haven't watched much of him but what I have seen he looks solid and plays heavy.
I'm still hoping/waiting for catton to fall to us. I'm also interested in yakemchuk the more I watch his videos and read his reports
- Bob Habib

Helenius’ production is similar to Anton Lundell, a fellow Finn. He’d be a solid pick if the top defenseman and Catton are off the board. But if they have a chance to draft any of Levshunov, Buium, D!ckinson, Parekh, or Silayev and pass for any of the forwards I’ll be disappointed. I don’t think any of the D will fall to 12 though. Another center I like is Michael Hage. Has a little more size than Helenius and might have a little more offense.

I would stay away from Yakemchuk. He just screams Ristolainen to me. I hope somebody takes him earlier because I fear the Flyers will take him.

I will certainly concede trying to project prospects is extremely difficult. I do believe there is just this stigma attached when talking heads say "projects as 2C" for Helenius. Watching some of his games, he seems to me to be a better skating, less physical version of Mike Richards playing at Kitchener. Was Richards a 1C before the addiction issues? Richards had 4 straight seasons for the Flyers when he scored 75, 80, 62, and 66 points (3 of those seasons 28-31 goals).

Your comments on Finnish league are certainly pause for concern, no doubt. I agree with you on Catton, I like him a lot. The only question from what I have about Catton is he may have to play wing- still could be very dynamic. Not read really anything that Helenius won't be a center.

Like most others, I'm pretty open to just about any prospect the Flyers have been mentioned. The only 3 that I would be somewhat disappointed - Lindstrom (medical), Sennecke, and Luchanko.
- Trox88

Agreed with 2 of those 3 as well, but I have little deep research knowledge about those players. Lindstrom seems like a aolid prospect although his back injuries hit closer to home seeing coots struggle.
Plus you don't mess with the back. Again, from personal experiences of people in my life, they're never the same after their back surgery. It's enough to cause me to have a red flag about Lidstrom. If those injuries never happened then I'd be ecstatic to draft him!

It's so hard to judge this draft class because literally every single mock draft has us choosing someone different.
I can only watch so many video and highlights as well as read reports of these kids.
This may be the most wild and unpredictable draft class that I can remember.
As long as we draft a center or potential top 2 Dman I'm happy as can be. I trust the scouting department (finally) and until proven wrong I will assume they continue to identify the bonks, DBs, and zavagrins of draft classes.

Helenius’ production is similar to Anton Lundell, a fellow Finn. He’d be a solid pick if the top defenseman and Catton are off the board. But if they have a chance to draft any of Levshunov, Buium, D!ckinson, Parekh, or Silayev and pass for any of the forwards I’ll be disappointed. I don’t think any of the D will fall to 12 though. Another center I like is Michael Hage. Has a little more size than Helenius and might have a little more offense.

I would stay away from Yakemchuk. He just screams Ristolainen to me. I hope somebody takes him earlier because I fear the Flyers will take him.
- Schmojo

You're not the first person I've heard mention similar viewpoints about yakemchuk. I obviously don't have as much of deep research as you've done because I haven't noticed that in him, and I'm not at all saying you're wrong. I enjoy hearing differing opinions bc I'm just an arm chair GM like the rest of us lol
I'd hoping for a C or D. Absolutely no need for another RW unless you're trading TK, imo.

Caps are buying capfriendly and shutting it down. Total bs.

Caps buying CapFriendly site, it'll be going offline in early July:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...hase-capfriendly-website/

Caps buying CapFriendly site, it'll be going offline in early July:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...hase-capfriendly-website/


- Tomahawk

Just one more reason to hate Washington.

Just one more reason to hate Washington.
- MBFlyerfan

Worst part is that they only did it because the entire league was using CapFriendly's API. Such a Richard move.

https://thehockeynews.com...-of-who-they-want-at-12th