Sarcasm. I don't think the Flyers would bring him back and I don't think he would want to come back.
- Flyfly

I think some truly believe there are guys on this board who believe both side would agree to bring him back.

I think some truly believe there are guys on this board who believe both side would agree to bring him back.
- roenick97

Not me... I don't think he would want to come back. I don't think he was happy leaving honestly...

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https://twitter.com/Ywolo...98707289496367510/photo/1
- wcorvette

new/old flyers 2024 going forward model

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https://twitter.com/Ywolo...98707289496367510/photo/1
- wcorvette

This can’t be true…the only way to build a winner is tank for a decade.

Sarcasm. I don't think the Flyers would bring him back and I don't think he would want to come back.
- Flyfly

if the flyers were actually good and contenders, I think both would have interest.

This can’t be true…the only way to build a winner is tank for a decade.
- landros 2

draft and develop!

Not me... I don't think he would want to come back. I don't think he was happy leaving honestly...
- Flyfly

I think he was happy to leave because the franchise was on the road to nowhere and he saw a path to go home, otherwise why wouldn’t Florida make it work? They were able to make a Matthew Tkachuk deal work, who makes a lot more than Giroux.

This can’t be true…the only way to build a winner is tank for a decade.
- landros 2

Tax advantage flip flop lifestyle might have something to do with it

I think he was happy to leave because the franchise was on the road to nowhere and he saw a path to go home, otherwise why wouldn’t Florida make it work? They were able to make a Matthew Tkachuk deal work, who makes a lot more than Giroux.
- roenick97

because cc went for the money is why. florida didn't want to pay him what ottawa did on a 3 year deal.

why do you think they made that dela work? 2 diff situations. you also saw what salary they moved out in said deal.

Newest Athletic (Pronman) mock has the Flyers taking Helenius at #12. And Dean Letourneau at #31/32

https://www.nytimes.com/a...2024-celebrini-levshunov/
- MBFlyerfan

Letourneau is a 6’6 C, playing Canadian Prep school and is committed to Boston College. He’s compared to Tage Thompson. Looks like a high risk/high reward player.

THW:
https://thehockeywriters....l-draft-prospect-profile/

THN:
https://thehockeynews.com...-prospect-dean-letourneau

The Athletic:
https://theathletic.com/5...ource=user_shared_article

This can’t be true…the only way to build a winner is tank for a decade.
- landros 2

Did they trade for their 1D or 1C? Oh no they didn’t. Their 2 most important players were drafted 1 & 2 overall. Nobody who advocates for tanking says they need to get all of their players through the draft. The point is you need to get Barkov and Ekblad level players through the draft because you’re not getting them otherwise. Florida is able to add all of these other players because they drafted at the top and got Barkov and Ekblad. Take one of them off this roster and replace them with an average player drafted in the teens and they’re not only not in the finals but would struggle to make it out of the first round.

This can’t be true…the only way to build a winner is tank for a decade.
- landros 2

Take away Ekblad (1st-overall), Barkov (2nd-overall) and Huberdeau (3rd-overall, who they traded for Tkachuk) and what are you left with?

A middling team with a $10M goaltender.

the reality is they are trying to win during the Coots/TK/Sanheim era, TK and Sanheim being in their prime, Coots as your crusty old captain. you may not like it but you need to come to terms with that.

i've said this before, whether it's the front office or the guys on the ice - they want to win with their guys. they'd rather lose their way than win your way. it's just the way it is

so they are hoping for big seasons from Drysdale and Ersson. they are expecting big things from Michkov. they are going to the fill in the blanks from there once some money comes of the books. that all being said - if that's their route - i like those 2 on the 4th line.

they aren't going to strip it bare and tank. it is what it is.
- anti-lame

I’m beginning to believe more and more that they’re just taking the same approach as Hextall. Draft wherever, wait for the cap to fix itself, and try to remain competitive at the same time because we Flyers, we blue collar, and whatever other platitudes they love.

Everything I see about Helenius is that he has no weaknesses. A very complete player but doesn't have one skill that stands out like Eiserman's shot or Demidovs puck handling etc.

One thing is that he has been playing against men and doing well. A good solid 2C projection. Typical Flyers pick LOL
- MBFlyerfan

Depending on how the draft falls he may be best player available at 12. He’s not a bad pick. Flyers need a 2C. This year’s draft doesn’t have any 1C’s beyond Celebrini. Next years draft is significantly deeper at center which is where I’ve hoped they find their 1C. This year makes sense to move up and take a defenseman.

Did they trade for their 1D or 1C? Oh no they didn’t. Their 2 most important players were drafted 1 & 2 overall. Nobody who advocates for tanking says they need to get all of their players through the draft. The point is you need to get Barkov and Ekblad level players through the draft because you’re not getting them otherwise. Florida is able to add all of these other players because they drafted at the top and got Barkov and Ekblad. Take one of them off this roster and replace them with an average player drafted in the teens and they’re not only not in the finals but would struggle to make it out of the first round.
- Schmojo

You missed a key part…when you draft high up in the draft. You have to hit. The flyers have had two picks in the top 5 in the last 6 years…neither are here to help. The point is simple….good decisions…solid signings…good trades …and of course draft and develop.

Did they trade for their 1D or 1C? Oh no they didn’t. Their most important players were drafted 1 & 2 overall. Nobody who advocates for tanking says they need to get all of their players through the draft. The point is you need to get Barkov and Ekblad level players through the draft because you’re not getting them otherwise. Florida is able to add all of these other players because they drafted at the top and got Barkov and Ekblad. Take one of them off this roster and replace them with an average player drafted in the teens and they’re not only not in the finals but would struggle to make it out of the first round.
- Schmojo

The guy who posted that on Twitter is either clueless or a shill for the team. Let's start with how they were able to trade for Tkachuk. What were the two main peices that Florida trade and how did they get them?

Utah has their 1st, four 2nd round picks and two 3rds in 2025. That is absurd.

We should absolutely be on the phone with them.

Nothing major? When was the last time they made a hockey trade? One that didn’t include taking back shiiit to get a decent return? I don’t think the time to “figure” out the cap is after you make those trades? Lol. At least that’s what good, competent GMs do. I have to assume he has a plan? In the so called 2nd summer of a rebuild I have to assume the plan is not just to roll it back? Then obviously it’s not a rebuild and once again we have the wrong management team in place.
Good franchises are proactive ….not reactive. Fletchers was reactive….Hextall was inactive…Homer was proactive but made some mistakes.
- landros 2

Have to go back to the early 90s... the Recchi and Ronnie Sutter trades were the last time they made "hockey trades" that actually worked out in their favor.

Unfortunately for Flyers fans, I don't see this organization having the intestinal fortitude to try and make deals in a similar vein involving Konecny and Laughton.

Have to go back to the early 90s... the Recchi and Ronnie Sutter trades were the last time they made "hockey trades" that actually worked out in their favor.

Unfortunately for Flyers fans, I don't see this organization having the intestinal fortitude to try and make deals in a similar vein involving Konecny and Laughton.
- BaronVonShiznit

They so clearly need to trade TK and ugh, I just know they won’t.

If they are anywhere near sniffing a playoff spot at the deadline they’ll probably keep Laughton too. They shouldn’t. But they will.

Not trying to be Mr negative here but the Flyers way has become so predictable. Shoot yourself in the foot, take a step back, and shoot again.

Have to go back to the early 90s... the Recchi and Ronnie Sutter trades were the last time they made "hockey trades" that actually worked out in their favor.

Unfortunately for Flyers fans, I don't see this organization having the intestinal fortitude to try and make deals in a similar vein involving Konecny and Laughton.
- BaronVonShiznit

Greg Hawgood and Josef Beranek
Karl Dykuis
Peter Svboda
Kevin Haller
Jason Smith

Not world beaters but solid ones that helped off the top of my head.

Take away Ekblad (1st-overall), Barkov (2nd-overall) and Huberdeau (3rd-overall, who they traded for Tkachuk) and what are you left with?

A middling team with a $10M goaltender.
- Tomahawk

They built around Barkov and Ekblad. They made some good trades to get Rinehart 2OA and Bennett 4OA. They just know how to build a roster.

They built around Barkov and Ekblad. They made some good trades to get Rinehart 2OA and Bennett 4OA. They just know how to build a roster.
- Minnyhock

Their blueline has OEL in the top 6, it is absurdly good team building. Montour and Forsling are better players then Ekblad.

Their blueline has OEL in the top 6, it is absurdly good team building. Montour and Forsling are better players then Ekblad.
- Trox88

OEL and Kulikov have been in decline for years. Now they’re both playing really well on the 3rd pair. Slotting players right pays dividends.

They built around Barkov and Ekblad. They made some good trades to get Rinehart 2OA and Bennett 4OA. They just know how to build a roster.
- Minnyhock

Zito. Many pounded the table for him in here. We got Fletcher.

Zito. Many pounded the table for him in here. We got Fletcher.
- Just5

Too bad Fletcher gave up assets for Risto while Zito traded for Reinhart.