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anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jun 6 @ 10:58 AM ET
Laughton is too important to the culture to trade. Frost and Couturier are malcontents and at least one of them are likely to be moved so Poehling can be one of the top two centers like he was in game 82 with the playoffs on the line.
- Feanor


I’d rather have a Poehling that’s going to skate hard out there than a Frost that’s going to float around waiting for the puck to come to him
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 6 @ 10:58 AM ET
Disagree. Giving roster spots to unskilled forwards who can't keep up at the NHL level is a huge issue for a team that is bottom 6 in scoring and is allegedly rebuilding.
- Feanor


Why on earth anyone believes that Deslauriers serves any kind of role on a rebuilding team, is mind boggling.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 6 @ 11:02 AM ET
Frost showed he has the talent to be a 2nd or 3rd line C…true ….BUT consistency matters and regardless of what his biggest supporters say he has not been able to show it yet (I’m one of those supporters).
Coots may well fall back into his 3rd line C role…wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if he can stay healthy and give them those tough minutes against the other teams best players…Poehling was good last year but is a bottom six guy.
They really need to find that top of the lineup C….it was hoped to be Quitter…but that ship sailed…doesn’t matter no whose fault it was …we are here now.
They need that “guy”….at C….and right now he’s not in the organization.

- landros 2

That's right. And this draft doesn't have a lot of elite centers either. I would like the Flyers to be aggressive in this draft, maybe find a way to draft a center like Lindstrom or Helenius, and draft a few centers in the later rounds and hope to get lucky.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 6 @ 11:03 AM ET
I think Drysdale and York can be fine point man on the PP. My concern is more towards the other forwards and their ability to quickly and accurately get one timers on target. This along with faceoffs were the biggest issues with the PP last season.
- jd250


Neither player has shown that they have the ability to QB a PP to improve it to that level. Maybe in the future but not currently and not likely this upcoming season. Zamula was the Flyers best PP defenseman last season.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 6 @ 11:05 AM ET
That's right. And this draft doesn't have a lot of elite centers either. I would like the Flyers to be aggressive in this draft, maybe find a way to draft a center like Lindstrom or Helenius, and draft a few centers in the later rounds and hope to get lucky.
- jd250


Helenius might be there @12.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 6 @ 11:10 AM ET
I think Briere is pro-active, at least he was with the Gauthier situation. The Flyers don't have cap space right now, so free agents are out. Other teams know this so they are going to try to take advantage, but Briere seems smart enough to avoid getting fleeced. I think until the cap clears up, I don't anything big happening. Jones eluded to this also.
- jd250

FA shouldn’t be on the table… trading some of the older guys that have value should be exactly what he should be trying to get done. The elite top level talent they lack will have to come the draft… to acquire those type of picks you have to part with what other teams want. You know those tough decisions Torts mentioned.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 11:14 AM ET
FA shouldn’t be on the table… trading some of the older guys that have value should be exactly what he should be trying to get done. The elite top level talent they lack will have to come the draft… to acquire those type of picks you have to part with what other teams want. You know those tough decisions Torts mentioned.
- landros 2



Hathaway, Ryan P, Cates, the Flyers should be clearing them out at the TDL. They have prospects coming that need NHL time, raise their value. The Flyers should focus on raising all players value, then move who makes sense, all building towards 2026.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Jun 6 @ 11:14 AM ET
Helenius might be there @12.
- landros 2


he might....I still think the Flyers need to take bigger swings on upside and difference makers tho. Eiserman is dropping in everyone's mock, but I still love what he brings. The guy can score, wants to score, and has a real flair to him. People continuously point to this deficiencies elsewhere....but he's not a number 1 pick. He's gonna have something wrong with him. EVERY PROSPECT does. If he can hit, he could be a top 6 forward that is a real threat on the PP. teamed up with Mitchkov on the other side???
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 6 @ 11:16 AM ET
Hathaway, Ryan P, Cates, the Flyers should be clearing them out at the TDL. They have prospects coming that need NHL time, raise their value. The Flyers should focus on raising all players value, then move who makes sense, all building towards 2026.
- wcorvette

like who from the forward ranks? maybe rizzo though he hasn't played a pro game yet.

I am not against moving any of them, just don't see what prospects are ready to take over.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 6 @ 11:21 AM ET
Why on earth anyone believes that Deslauriers serves any kind of role on a rebuilding team, is mind boggling.
- MJL

If you’re gonna make this argument, playing a guy Nick D is better now than when the team is good. The Flyers are currently on the road to nowhere, which is why you can get away with playing these players. By season’s end when we were sniffing the playoffs, he sat.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
I’d rather have a Poehling that’s going to skate hard out there than a Frost that’s going to float around waiting for the puck to come to him
- anti-lame


Skating hard doesn't put points on the board. That caveman attitude to hockey is how the Flyers scored one goal in a must win game 82 at home.

The only Flyer forwards less likely than Poehling to generate 5on5 offense last season were Hathaway and Deslauriers.


https://www.nhl.com/stats...r605v5&page=0&pageSize=50
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 6 @ 11:24 AM ET
I’d rather have a Poehling that’s going to skate hard out there than a Frost that’s going to float around waiting for the puck to come to him
- anti-lame


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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 6 @ 11:27 AM ET
Skating hard doesn't put points on the board. That caveman attitude to hockey is how the Flyers scored one goal in a must win game 82 at home.
- Feanor

The Flyers aren’t that good of an offensive team either way…
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 6 @ 11:32 AM ET
If you’re gonna make this argument, playing a guy Nick D is better now than when the team is good. The Flyers are currently on the road to nowhere, which is why you can get away with playing these players. By season’s end when we were sniffing the playoffs, he sat.
- roenick97

what are your 3 favorite water ice flavors?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 6 @ 11:32 AM ET
What I took from Jones yesterday is there will not be much this offseason because of the cap situation, but next season when the cap clears up there is a potential for some bold moves. It feels to me that Flyers will be rolling back essentially the same team next year, with maybe some additional younger players.
- jd250


Bold moves... when have those ever worked out for the Flyers?

The majority of their bold moves end up on perma-LTIR'd or bought out or traded for pennies on the dollar.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 6 @ 11:33 AM ET
The Flyers aren’t that good of an offensive team either way…
- roenick97

so sitting your skills guys, who can score, makes total sense.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 6 @ 11:34 AM ET
Neither player has shown that they have the ability to QB a PP to improve it to that level. Maybe in the future but not currently and not likely this upcoming season. Zamula was the Flyers best PP defenseman last season.
- MJL


What exactly is the Flyers set up on the PP? I ask because I really cannot tell. When Mullen ran the PP, the structure was very apparent. G on left half boards- RH fwd, Voracek' right half boards- LH fwd, Simmonds net front presence. other fwd generally in slot to shoot or offer a screen, Dman- top of umbrella. It drove me nuts to constantly see Tippett on the right boards near the blueline on the PP. Or Frost on the left half boards as LH fwd shooting. Absolutely ridiculous stricture.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 6 @ 11:35 AM ET
he might....I still think the Flyers need to take bigger swings on upside and difference makers tho. Eiserman is dropping in everyone's mock, but I still love what he brings. The guy can score, wants to score, and has a real flair to him. People continuously point to this deficiencies elsewhere....but he's not a number 1 pick. He's gonna have something wrong with him. EVERY PROSPECT does. If he can hit, he could be a top 6 forward that is a real threat on the PP. teamed up with Mitchkov on the other side???
- Wingdestroyer


They all have some issues about them. Eisernman is an interesting guy…most pundits still think he’s the best pure scorer in the draft…sometimes teams overthink it. Scoring is kind of the point. I wouldn’t be disappointed at all if that’s who they grab….there’s a lot decent guys in the top 18 or so.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 6 @ 11:36 AM ET
so being #17 is subjective I understand. Thats being said seeing the lack of talent at the nhl level future aint all that rosey
- hello it's me 2050


#17 for a team with so little talent on the NHL roster is simply not good.

Barring a draft like Dallas 2017, where they get multiple superstars, they're going nowhere.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 6 @ 11:39 AM ET
Bold moves... when have those ever worked out for the Flyers?

The majority of their bold moves end up on perma-LTIR'd or bought out or traded for pennies on the dollar.

- Tomahawk


Were they bold or stupid moves? I’m trying to think of the last FA they grabbed that I was excited about...a guy that I thought would be a difference maker?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 6 @ 11:40 AM ET
#17 for a team with so little talent on the NHL roster is simply not good.

Barring a draft like Dallas 2017, where they get multiple superstars, they're going nowhere.

- Tomahawk

remove MM where is it ranked?
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 6 @ 11:42 AM ET
like who from the forward ranks? maybe rizzo though he hasn't played a pro game yet.

I am not against moving any of them, just don't see what prospects are ready to take over.

- hello it's me 2050


I think they have to hope there are some surprises like Brink and Zamula last year…I’m with ya though…I’m not seeing that guy to get excited about except for the Russian kid being held hostage.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 6 @ 11:49 AM ET
I think they have to hope there are some surprises like Brink and Zamula last year…I’m with ya though…I’m not seeing that guy to get excited about except for the Russian kid being held hostage.
- landros 2


I'm very curious to see what Ersson, Fedotov, York, Foerster, and Brink can do. Brink represents something the Flyers have in short supply- playmaking winger. I am probably driving the bus comparing him to Mark Stone. If I post it enough times, it has to come true right? 😀
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 6 @ 11:50 AM ET
The Inquirer interviewed Briere at the combine. He wants Erik Johnson back.

https://www.msn.com/en-us...073feff1ffa3b5333cc&ei=13

And now that we know Erik — I mean, I knew him before because I played with him (in Colorado), know the type of person he is and the type of leader. So we’d like very much to bring him back.



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 6 @ 11:50 AM ET
Skating hard doesn't put points on the board. That caveman attitude to hockey is how the Flyers scored one goal in a must win game 82 at home.

The only Flyer forwards less likely than Poehling to generate 5on5 offense last season were Hathaway and Deslauriers.


https://www.nhl.com/stats...r605v5&page=0&pageSize=50

- Feanor


Yet the neanderthal coach thought that would give them the best chance of winning. One of many examples of why they need to get rid of that guy. Though did you listen to the press conference? They all get along well and work together beautifully. They're building a winning environment here filled with culture.
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