A poor cap situation…the self inflicted dead money that exists to help acquire future assets has run its course. There is no reason to stall the rebuild, like he kind of hinted at, unless it’s not a rebuild at all.
Here’s an idea ….maybe you don’t pay 27 yr old Konecny like a top 15 player in the NHL when he’s simply not that, never has been that and never will be that.
Again with the Flyers it’s not about what they say….far to often this team has not followed through on their words. I would think a team in a so called rebuild would have a busy 2nd summer ? No?
- landros 2

Define busy. The Flyers have 10 picks in the draft and a few RFAs to resign, plus have to figure out their cap situation including deciding on buyouts and burying money. You can't just trade players away for pennies on the dollar. I think their can and should be some trades that make sense but I don't expect anything major. With TK, if they don't agree on a number perhaps he gets moved at the deadline.

I think the Flyers will regress in the standings next season for a number of reasons: 1. they will not be signing any significant free agents this offseason, 2. their goaltending will not be has good as it was last year, and 3. other metro teams will improve. What I do expect is the Flyers will improve their special teams. Keep the PK above 80% and get the PP up to 18-20%. This along with continued development of players like Foerster and York and some infusion of youth on the blue line should make it a positive season regardless of where they finish in the standings. And if Michkov comes over, all them ore positive.
- jd250

Without adding a legitimate PP QB and definitely without improving the coaching. The Flyers PP improving to that level is unlikely.

That's the biggest hole in the organization IMO, the center position. I expect Couts will have a better season this year given he has a full off season to workout and feel more confident about this back, Frost showed he is a viable 2nd/3rd line center and Poehling is a very good 4th line center than can play 3rd line center when needed. There are two move I would like the Flyers to make: 1. trade Laughton for a younger center that has development and upside potential, maybe a player that needs a change of scenery, and let that player play 3rd line center, and 2. waive or trade Deslauriers and replace with a Brink that can play all season, so they don't have to play 11/7 again. These two things would help the forward group immensely.
- jd250

does the same logic apply to Cam?

what young center will Laughing get you? throw out some names.

they will not do that to ND. a respected vet. all about the culture on and off the ice.

On the cap as a buyout. Not as a retention spot. You only get three retention spots.
- mickel25

Can you just click on the link and look? It's not a buyout for Utah, it's retained salary.

DEAD CAP
RETAINED SALARY (1) 2024-25 2025-26 2026-27 2027-28 2028-29 2029-30
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $320,000 $650,000 $650,000 $290,000 $290,000 $290,000

Without adding a legitimate PP QB and definitely without improving the coaching. The Flyers PP improving to that level is unlikely.
- MJL

your a big puck luck fan no?

Is krebs a good prospect?
- bradster

No, and I don’t want him. But supposedly the flyers like the player and see more offense in him.

https://thehockeynews.com...s-as-trade-deadline-nears

I’d rather have Jiri Kulich.

C
Height: 6′1″
Weight: 186 lb
Born: 4/14/2004 (Age: 20)
Birthplace: Kadan, CZE
Shoots: L
Draft: 2022, BUF (28th overall), 1st round, 28th pick

27 goals last year in the AHL

No, and I don’t want him. But supposedly the flyers like the player and see more offense in him.

https://thehockeynews.com...s-as-trade-deadline-nears

I’d rather have Jiri Kulich.

Height: 6′1″
Weight: 186 lb
Born: 4/14/2004 (Age: 20)
Birthplace: Kadan, CZE
Shoots: L
Draft: 2022, BUF (28th overall), 1st round, 28th pick

27 goals last year in the AHL
- coffee junkie

torts is def the kind of coach who will get that offense out of him

I don't agree that the Flyers played at playoff intensity all of last season. They certainly got up for the gauntlet of games against the best teams in the league and certainly after that had a let down which is to be expected. But expected for maybe 1 game, not several games. Certainly the benching of Couts had something to do with it, and that is on Torts, but I think several players also let the team down last year.
- jd250

That's because you don't have a clue of what you're looking at.

Can you just click on the link and look? It's not a buyout for Utah, it's retained salary.

DEAD CAP
RETAINED SALARY (1) 2024-25 2025-26 2026-27 2027-28 2028-29 2029-30
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $320,000 $650,000 $650,000 $290,000 $290,000 $290,000
- Feanor

You are right. My bad. I just looked at Vancouver's cap not Utah's. I wish you nothing but wealth and prosperity for all of your days.

torts is def the kind of coach who will get that offense out of him
- hello it's me 2050

I trust Torts to do that as much as he trusts Frost in a must win game when needing to score a goal.

That's the biggest hole in the organization IMO, the center position. I expect Couts will have a better season this year given he has a full off season to workout and feel more confident about this back, Frost showed he is a viable 2nd/3rd line center and Poehling is a very good 4th line center than can play 3rd line center when needed. There are two move I would like the Flyers to make: 1. trade Laughton for a younger center that has development and upside potential, maybe a player that needs a change of scenery, and let that player play 3rd line center, and 2. waive or trade Deslauriers and replace with a Brink that can play all season, so they don't have to play 11/7 again. These two things would help the forward group immensely.
- jd250

Frost showed he has the talent to be a 2nd or 3rd line C…true ….BUT consistency matters and regardless of what his biggest supporters say he has not been able to show it yet (I’m one of those supporters).
Coots may well fall back into his 3rd line C role…wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if he can stay healthy and give them those tough minutes against the other teams best players…Poehling was good last year but is a bottom six guy.
They really need to find that top of the lineup C….it was hoped to be Quitter…but that ship sailed…doesn’t matter no whose fault it was …we are here now.
They need that “guy”….at C….and right now he’s not in the organization.

Deslauriers played 21 games at 6:53 in the second half of the season. If Briere had balls, then Nic would he an AHL player for the last two years of his horrible contract. After that he can join the Phantoms coaching staff.

Define busy. The Flyers have 10 picks in the draft and a few RFAs to resign, plus have to figure out their cap situation including deciding on buyouts and burying money. You can't just trade players away for pennies on the dollar. I think their can and should be some trades that make sense but I don't expect anything major. With TK, if they don't agree on a number perhaps he gets moved at the deadline.
- jd250

Nothing major? When was the last time they made a hockey trade? One that didn’t include taking back shiiit to get a decent return? I don’t think the time to “figure” out the cap is after you make those trades? Lol. At least that’s what good, competent GMs do. I have to assume he has a plan? In the so called 2nd summer of a rebuild I have to assume the plan is not just to roll it back? Then obviously it’s not a rebuild and once again we have the wrong management team in place.
Good franchises are proactive ….not reactive. Fletchers was reactive….Hextall was inactive…Homer was proactive but made some mistakes.

I'd put the goalie drafted round after Carson ahead of Carson at this point in time.

Deslauriers played 21 games at 6:53 in the second half of the season. If Briere had balls, then Nic would he an AHL player for the last two years of his horrible contract. After that he can join the Phantoms coaching staff.
- Feanor

Dlow as a 13th forward or a guy playing 6 minutes a night 30 games a year isn’t a huge issue….not on a team that lacks elite talent and is more than likely a bubble team. If you don’t think his role is necessary…that’s fine. But D Low does everything they ask him to do. Hopefully one day…in a few years there won’t be a spot for a guy like him because there are to many other better options…I’m not see that with todays team.

Either way, we are in for a long-haul of losing, which is fine, at least to me. The Flyers haven't even started a rebuild yet, they're currently just skirting around the edges of one. It can be a long five plus year process if they haven't done some legwork at the draft table, which they seem to be doing.

Dlow as a 13th forward or a guy playing 6 minutes a night 30 games a year isn’t a huge issue….not on a team that lacks elite talent and is more than likely a bubble team. If you don’t think his role is necessary…that’s fine. But D Low does everything they ask him to do. Hopefully one day…in a few years there won’t be a spot for a guy like him because there are to many other better options…I’m not see that with todays team.
- landros 2

Disagree. Giving roster spots to unskilled forwards who can't keep up at the NHL level is a huge issue for a team that is bottom 6 in scoring and is allegedly rebuilding.

It’s not a tank if you simply reset and trade some of your better vets, instead of resigning them…go young. They already have a decent young core and need to concentrate on that. So maybe you move a guy like Konecny….a guy like Farabee…Risto? If you can. The more draft capital you can attain the better chance you have to add young pieces for the future that could eventually build what they are trying to get. What we’ve seen DB do so far is weaponize the salary cap to help make these moves …they’ve exhausted that avenue. Time for the “tough” decisions they keep telling us about.

- landros 2

DB deserves a shot, regression is the most likely result this season, as long as DB does not make moves to prevent that, I am good. If they get into the bottom 10 for the 2025 draft, trade everything possible this off-season and more likely the TDL, then we have a shot to build this. Just need the younger players to play well, small steps forward, no regression. do hope Jamie D and that 2nd round pick turn out to be good.

Speaking of buyouts, if the Blues buyout Hayes it would keep him on the Flyers cap until June, 2028 and use up a retention slot for four more years.

https://www.capfriendly.c...ut-calculator/kevin-hayes
- Feanor

It would add 2 more years at $660 per, but it also drops the first 2 years from 3.5 to 2.2. We already would be on the hook for 2 more years, a buyout would push it to 4 years.

Either way, horrible signing that we all knew wasn't the right fit for this team with the type of player Hayes is.

He is a forward that was highly touted during this draft year, however he has played over 200 NHL games and has only 65 points. Sometimes junior and AHL skills just don't translate to the NHL.
- jd250

Krebs could be trade bait. If they keep him he’ll probably have a short leash. He needs a good start next fall.

Krebs was an offensive playmaker. He’s trying to reinvent himself as a gritty defensive player who can still make plays.

DB deserves a shot, regression is the most likely result this season, as long as DB does not make moves to prevent that, I am good. If they get into the bottom 10 for the 2025 draft, trade everything possible this off-season and more likely the TDL, then we have a shot to build this. Just need the younger players to play well, small steps forward, no regression. do hope Jamie D and that 2nd round pick turn out to be good.
- wcorvette

Totally fine with giving DB his time…it’s only been a year. I’m on board with an actually rebuild…I’m patient. I’m totally fine with a regression if you’re doing it with the young guys and they are learning as they go and growing as a group. The only way this team will get better is the young guys already here continue to grow like you suggest with Drysdale.

Nothing major? When was the last time they made a hockey trade? One that didn’t include taking back shiiit to get a decent return? I don’t think the time to “figure” out the cap is after you make those trades? Lol. At least that’s what good, competent GMs do. I have to assume he has a plan? In the so called 2nd summer of a rebuild I have to assume the plan is not just to roll it back? Then obviously it’s not a rebuild and once again we have the wrong management team in place.
Good franchises are proactive ….not reactive. Fletchers was reactive….Hextall was inactive…Homer was proactive but made some mistakes.
- landros 2

Cutter for Drysdale?

Without adding a legitimate PP QB and definitely without improving the coaching. The Flyers PP improving to that level is unlikely.
- MJL

I think Drysdale and York can be fine point man on the PP. My concern is more towards the other forwards and their ability to quickly and accurately get one timers on target. This along with faceoffs were the biggest issues with the PP last season.

Cutter for Drysdale?
- mickel25

I guess I should have added “one where we didn’t get hosed and we’re forced into”. Or one they weren’t forced into….you know those hard “decision” ones that we are not going to be happy with. My bad.

Nothing major? When was the last time they made a hockey trade? One that didn’t include taking back shiiit to get a decent return? I don’t think the time to “figure” out the cap is after you make those trades? Lol. At least that’s what good, competent GMs do. I have to assume he has a plan? In the so called 2nd summer of a rebuild I have to assume the plan is not just to roll it back? Then obviously it’s not a rebuild and once again we have the wrong management team in place.
Good franchises are proactive ….not reactive. Fletchers was reactive….Hextall was inactive…Homer was proactive but made some mistakes.
- landros 2

I think Briere is pro-active, at least he was with the Gauthier situation. The Flyers don't have cap space right now, so free agents are out. Other teams know this so they are going to try to take advantage, but Briere seems smart enough to avoid getting fleeced. I think until the cap clears up, I don't anything big happening. Jones eluded to this also.