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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 1 @ 6:04 PM ET
Agree with everything but one little thing I'd bring attention to is Stuart Skinner is 1 game away from going to the Stanley Cup.

Now I know McDavid and Draisaitl cover a lot of warts but I think you just need about average goaltending.

- Pelle31Forever


It's so hard to say who will come up with the key saves in a 7-game series.

Lot of average goalies who have caught fire and their teams rode them to the promised land. And a lot of absolute stud goalies who just couldn't make that last save to close out a series and ended their careers without a Cup.

Goaltending is voodoo.
TEAGLE
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 1 @ 7:20 PM ET
Thanks, Bill! Question, how important do you think the combine is this year in light of so much uncertainty?
- coffee junkie

Why do you little nerds always start comments with thx Bill? He gets paid
To express his thoughts.
Your legion of suck ups are why this poop organization has been losers for 50 years.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Jun 1 @ 9:37 PM ET
Why do you little nerds always start comments with thx Bill? He gets paid
To express his thoughts.
Your legion of suck ups are why this poop organization has been losers for 50 years.

- TEAGLE

Thx teagle!
Go suck up whatever is you enjoy sucking up! It's pride month and I won't judge you 🌈
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 1 @ 9:56 PM ET
Cats blueline outside of Ekblad is pretty much retreads from other organizations. More then one way to team build I guess.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jun 1 @ 9:59 PM ET
Thx teagle!
Go suck up whatever is you enjoy sucking up! It's pride month and I won't judge you 🌈

- Bob Habib


Lol love it! I never realized that thanking someone is sucking up. I guess I suck up to the mailman, Amazon driver, cashier at supermarket, etc. Now I know...and knowing is half the battle!
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jun 1 @ 10:09 PM ET
Thanks Bill for the updates even during these slow days. I love the birthdays. Murray Baron - I'll never forget the Flyers Caps brawl when Baron went at it with Al Iafrate who took off his jersey and was already bloodied from the pile-up behind the net after Berube nailed Don Beaupre. I think I still have the VHS tape as I used to tape the games while watching. I watched that game over and over and can still hear Emerick and Clement's commentary.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 1 @ 10:35 PM ET
Cats blueline outside of Ekblad is pretty much retreads from other organizations. More then one way to team build I guess.
- Trox88


It’s working for them. Panthers up 2-0 late in the third and pretty much suffocating the rags.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Jun 1 @ 10:47 PM ET
RAWR
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 1 @ 10:48 PM ET
Good luck Bob!

(frank) the Rangers!!

I said it two years ago and I’ll say it now. When Matthew Tkachuk refused to sign with Calgary, we should have been in on that. TK and something else would have been enough.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 1 @ 10:48 PM ET
That Florida 1st may as well be a 2nd round pick at this point.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 1 @ 10:50 PM ET
Good riddance to the rags couldn’t happen to a better bunch of frauds.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 1 @ 10:53 PM ET
Weird how Flyers goaltending is going to the final two seasons in a row.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 1 @ 10:55 PM ET
Weird how Flyers goaltending is going to the final two seasons in a row.
- roenick97


Pick 31 or 32 lol
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 1 @ 10:55 PM ET
Where do the Flyers get a Barkov and a Tkchuck?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 1 @ 10:56 PM ET
Why do you little nerds always start comments with thx Bill? He gets paid
To express his thoughts.
Your legion of suck ups are why this poop organization has been losers for 50 years.

- TEAGLE


😝

Morons gonna moron
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 1 @ 10:59 PM ET
Where do the Flyers get a Barkov and a Tkchuck?
- mikeyo27


Well you can get a Barkov with the 2nd overall pick.
With the flyers recent track record with #2 picks maybe not so much.









roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 1 @ 11:00 PM ET
Why do you little nerds always start comments with thx Bill? He gets paid
To express his thoughts.
Your legion of suck ups are why this poop organization has been losers for 50 years.

- TEAGLE

I love this

Bill is out here doing god’s work apparently.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 1 @ 11:20 PM ET
Wonder what the Rangers do with Kakko. Bad regular season, 2 pts in playoffs with 12:00 ice time/gm. He is a RFA. Does he want out ? Could they sell low?
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 1 @ 11:58 PM ET
Wonder what the Rangers do with Kakko. Bad regular season, 2 pts in playoffs with 12:00 ice time/gm. He is a RFA. Does he want out ? Could they sell low?
- Trox88


Why would they waste assets on another winger?
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 2 @ 12:04 AM ET
Cats blueline outside of Ekblad is pretty much retreads from other organizations. More then one way to team build I guess.
- Trox88


I’m not sure what you’re suggesting here? I can only guess that it’s not that you need to draft high to be a contender? They got Ekblad at 1st overall and Barkov at 2nd overall. Those are their foundational pieces. Without them the rest of their roster is irrelevant. Also, they were able to acquire Tkachuk, a former 6th overall pick by trading Huberdeau, who they drafted 3rd overall. Florida’s success, like pretty much every cup champions success the last 15 years, is built on a foundation drafted in the top 5.

Let’s not forget, Florida’s Vezina winning goalie used to play for the Flyers and was traded so that they could go out and get an established veteran rather than develop the young goalie.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 2 @ 12:16 AM ET
Why would they waste assets on another winger?
- Schmojo


When I post about players on other teams, I'm not necessarily thinking the Flyers should try and acquire. However, there were rumors the Rangers were interested in Laughton. Maybe they revisit trying to acquire Laughton because they want to change their forwards. I want as many teams as possible interested in Flyers players on the roster.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 2 @ 12:20 AM ET
When I post about players on other teams, I'm not necessarily thinking the Flyers should try and acquire. However, there were rumors the Rangers were interested in Laughton. Maybe they revisit trying to acquire Laughton because they want to change their forwards. I want as many teams as possible interested in Flyers players on the roster.
- Trox88

Atkinson buyout. Konency and Laughton trades. All UFA walk. I think these are realistic expectations for the summer.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 2 @ 12:23 AM ET
Atkinson buyout. Konency and Laughton trades. All UFA walk. I think these are realistic expectations for the summer.
- roenick97


I really, really hope they do not buyout Atkinson. He can be the 13th fwd if he still plays poorly, gain maximum cap flexibility next month.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 2 @ 12:31 AM ET
I’m not sure what you’re suggesting here? I can only guess that it’s not that you need to draft high to be a contender? They got Ekblad at 1st overall and Barkov at 2nd overall. Those are their foundational pieces. Without them the rest of their roster is irrelevant. Also, they were able to acquire Tkachuk, a former 6th overall pick by trading Huberdeau, who they drafted 3rd overall. Florida’s success, like pretty much every cup champions success the last 15 years, is built on a foundation drafted in the top 5.

Let’s not forget, Florida’s Vezina winning goalie used to play for the Flyers and was traded so that they could go out and get an established veteran rather than develop the young goalie.

- Schmojo


Maybe I'm showing respect to an organization who was god awful for a long time, but thru a combo of drafting, trades, waiver wire claims, and free agency has turned into an elite team. I could make the argument that Forsling is their best Dman and Carolina tossed him away. They gave up 2 1st rd picks for a Cup run that went no where. After those trades, 2 appearances in the Finals- fantastic job.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jun 2 @ 12:43 AM ET
I’m not sure what you’re suggesting here? I can only guess that it’s not that you need to draft high to be a contender? They got Ekblad at 1st overall and Barkov at 2nd overall. Those are their foundational pieces. Without them the rest of their roster is irrelevant. Also, they were able to acquire Tkachuk, a former 6th overall pick by trading Huberdeau, who they drafted 3rd overall. Florida’s success, like pretty much every cup champions success the last 15 years, is built on a foundation drafted in the top 5.

Let’s not forget, Florida’s Vezina winning goalie used to play for the Flyers and was traded so that they could go out and get an established veteran rather than develop the young goalie.

- Schmojo


Florida built around Barkov period. They wisely got the right role players. They got Montour for a 3rd. They got Laostarinan in the Trocheck trade. They drafted a big Finn center at #12. Forsling was an outstanding U20 defensemen who took about 4 years to develop and they got him when he was ready to blow up like Montour. Drafting, developing, and signing the right FAs and role players.

Compare Barkov with Marner. Barkov is a foundation and Marner is a shiny object.



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