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Speaking of trades. Mr. Sean Walker ended this year’s playoffs with zero points and a -5 rating. Nice job DB fetching a first. |
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I’d trade a D man for the right center. At least Bonk is in the pipeline. - hereticpride
what dman besides probably york can get you a solid center? |
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Necas wants to play center. The canes coach who was a very good center doesn't seem fit to play him at center. wonder why - hello it's me 2050
When Necas got there they were loaded at center. Staal, Lindholm..then Aho, Trocheck, Staal. He may be able to transition back to a 2C but I think I’d keep him on the wing. He’s not good on faceoffs. I like his size and scoring.
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When Necas got there they were loaded at center. Staal, Lindholm..then Aho, Trocheck, Staal. He may be able to transition back to a 2C but I think I’d keep him on the wing. He’s not good on faceoffs. I like his size and scoring. - Minnyhock
may not be an easy transition to go be a full time center at this stage.
just think if they were convinced he could pull it off they may have tried more. Not saying he cant, just saying!!! |
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Necas wants to play center. The canes coach who was a very good center doesn't seem fit to play him at center. wonder why - hello it's me 2050
100% because he’s not good enough. This illustrates why so many of us know a true rebuild is the only way for the Flyers to find elite talent. You’re just not going to be trading or signing it. A player like that changes teams once a decade, and for uncommon occurrences like Eichel’s neck surgery. People often forget that the Gretzky and Lindros trades included $15 & $16 million going to the Oilers and Nordiques. You’re not allowed to trade cash anymore. For the most part, you’re only able to trade for middle six or 2nd pair players. |
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may not be an easy transition to go be a full time center at this stage.
just think if they were convinced he could pull it off they may have tried more. Not saying he cant, just saying!!! - hello it's me 2050
The Flyers didn’t like Brayden Schenn at center and hardly played him there whereas St Louis was happy to after the trade. |
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The Flyers didn’t like Brayden Schenn at center and hardly played him there whereas St Louis was happy to after the trade. - psuhockey
The Flyers would never undervalue talent and them ship them off to become stars elsewhere.... never.... |
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So the flyers had to overpay on a contract to get fedotov out of russia... how much do you think MMs first post ELC contract is going to be in order to get him out of his SKA contract? |
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So the flyers had to overpay on a contract to get fedotov out of russia... how much do you think MMs first post ELC contract is going to be in order to get him out of his SKA contract? - Bob Habib
That’ll be irrelevant. If he comes over and becomes the player he’s projected to be, he’ll be the highest paid Flyer ever. |
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That’ll be irrelevant. If he comes over and becomes the player he’s projected to be, he’ll be the highest paid Flyer ever. - Schmojo
Ok... im sure thats possible and likely..but how much is what I want to know.
12m?
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what dman besides probably york can get you a solid center? - hello it's me 2050
Judging by the usual asking price for D men almost any D man on this roster could probably get you a serviceable 2C. If you’re asking about a 1C that’s not happening without packaging a winger or picks |
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Ok... im sure thats possible and likely..but how much is what I want to know.
12m?
13m? - Bob Habib
What I meant was his first contract post ELC won’t be impacted by his SKA buyout. I’m sure they’ll structure his bonuses on his ELC to accommodate that buyout.
Seeing as Pettersson just got $11.6m and with the cap going up quite a bit over the next few seasons $12m or more is not out of the question if he’s as good as advertised. It’ll depend on exactly how good he is right away. If they opt for a bridge deal maybe it’ll be under $10m but if they go long term right away it’ll be over $12m. |
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So the flyers had to overpay on a contract to get fedotov out of russia... how much do you think MMs first post ELC contract is going to be in order to get him out of his SKA contract? - Bob Habib
I don't think that's quite how it works. Fedetov got what he got because he was UFA. Michkov's 2nd NHL contract after his ELC will be completely dependent on his level of play and production.
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Judging by the usual asking price for D men almost any D man on this roster could probably get you a serviceable 2C. If you’re asking about a 1C that’s not happening without packaging a winger or picks - hereticpride
The Flyers already have a serviceable 2C. Zamula, Seeler and Ristolainen are not getting you a legit 2C |
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What I meant was his first contract post ELC won’t be impacted by his SKA buyout. I’m sure they’ll structure his bonuses on his ELC to accommodate that buyout. - Schmojo
Illegal under the CBA. Any buyout of Michkov's contract will not be a part of his contract in any way. That is not money that is paid to the player.
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The Flyers already have a serviceable 2C. Zamula and Ristolainen are not getting you a legit 2C - MJL
neither is seeler. JD may not either |
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Illegal under the CBA. Any buyout of Michkov's contract will not be a part of his contract in any way. That is not money that is paid to the player. - MJL
sure it can indirectly. they can include easy to reach bonus clauses so MM can recoup his cash |
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Well they kind of tried and swung missed badly. Jay O'Brien, German Rubtsov. and Nolan Parick could have made the current team look significantly different if they panned out.
- Trox88
Thanks for that Saint Ronald |
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The Flyers already have a serviceable 2C. Zamula, Seeler and Ristolainen are not getting you a legit 2C - MJL
Sanheim could probably get you a 2C but if they’re abandoning the “rebuild” trading Sanheim just opens another hole. In that approach you’ll need to trade picks and prospects.
But as you say, they have a 2C, they need a 1C. And there’s no true 1C available anyway. There’s guys like Zegras who may still develop into a 1C but they’re not getting an already established 1C.
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Sanheim could probably get you a 2C but if they’re abandoning the “rebuild” trading Sanheim just opens another hole. In that approach you’ll need to trade picks and prospects.
But as you say, they have a 2C, they need a 1C. And there’s no true 1C available anyway. There’s guys like Zegras who may still develop into a 1C but they’re not getting an already established 1C. - Schmojo
Something some seem to miss. The Flyers recently tried, although unsuccessful to try and move Sanheim a year ago. Yes he was better this year, but that could work to having more teams considering trading for the player. My general point is perhaps Torts and company do not see him as part of the future.
With Sanheims no trade clause perhaps there are teams that he might be willing to go to that are interested in bringing him in.
A no trade doesn’t always lead to a guy not getting moved. I’m not sure the “hole” trading Sanheim is very big. |
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what dman besides probably york can get you a solid center? - hello it's me 2050
Here’s 2 trades in which a 1C & 1D changed teams
Buffalo trades:
Jack Eichel
3rd rd pick
To Vegas for:
Alex Tuch
Peyton Krebs
1st rd pick
2nd rd pick
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Anaheim trades:
Chris Pronger
Ryan Dingle
To Philly for:
Joffrey Lupul
Luca Sbisa
Two 1st rd picks
3rd rd pick
Keep in mind, that’s the return for an injured Eichel, who needed a new kind of neck surgery, and a soon to be 35 year old Pronger. |
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may not be an easy transition to go be a full time center at this stage.
just think if they were convinced he could pull it off they may have tried more. Not saying he cant, just saying!!! - hello it's me 2050
Imo RB should have moved Necas to C this year. He chose Kuznetsov. That was a mistake. Staal was the 2C. He was a Selke finalist but provides little offense. Drury the 3C didn’t do much. He knows his players better than me.
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Something some seem to miss. The Flyers recently tried, although unsuccessful to try and move Sanheim a year ago. Yes he was better, but that could work to having more teams considering trading for the player. My general point is perhaps Torts and company do not see him as part of the future.
With Sanheims no trade clause perhaps there are teams that he might be willing to go to that are interested in bringing him in.
A no trade doesn’t always lead to a guy not getting moved. I’m not sure the “hole” trading Sanheim is very big. - landros 2
I think I team like Utah that wants to get good quick might like to add Sanheim, especially since he has cost certainty and the cap went up. Would they trade the 6th pick to get him? I think if the Flyers add a bit more they just may. This may be the best chance the Flyers have to get out from under his contract. The Flyers need to get bigger and tougher on defense, to compliment YorK, JD and even Andrea. |
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I don't think that's quite how it works. Fedetov got what he got because he was UFA. Michkov's 2nd NHL contract after his ELC will be completely dependent on his level of play and production. - MJL
I'd say I agree with your thinking but this is russia and donations have a funny way of not being tracked.
There is no way those teams over there let him come here and play without putting something into their pockets for allowing these players to leave.
That's just my opinion and there's no proof for either side of thought here. But it's politics and...well.... it's politics |
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What I meant was his first contract post ELC won’t be impacted by his SKA buyout. I’m sure they’ll structure his bonuses on his ELC to accommodate that buyout.
Seeing as Pettersson just got $11.6m and with the cap going up quite a bit over the next few seasons $12m or more is not out of the question if he’s as good as advertised. It’ll depend on exactly how good he is right away. If they opt for a bridge deal maybe it’ll be under $10m but if they go long term right away it’ll be over $12m. - Schmojo
If he is as good as advertised I'd see if you can lock him up long term for around 11m and skip that bridge. I'd be happy to have his prime years locked up at that price. But this is probably pipe dreaming or pipe smoking.. either way lol |
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