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Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

May 2 @ 1:58 PM ET
Ha ha, the pathetic Suxas strike again!! I just saw a report that their ownership bought 2,000 tickets to tonight's game 6 cause they didn't want Knicks fans to get them. Yet more proof that Suxas fans are a bunch of fraud frontrunner fans! A playoff game and they can't get people to come...so pathetic!!
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

May 2 @ 2:00 PM ET
The Flyers will have plenty of cap space for both these players. You have to consider the money moving out from these trades, buyout of Atkinson, plus more trades if needed.
- jd250


What if Michkov is who we think he is/could become? How much do you think he's worth after his ELC?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

May 2 @ 2:00 PM ET
The Flyers will have plenty of cap space for both these players. You have to consider the money moving out from these trades, buyout of Atkinson, plus more trades if needed.
- jd250



19.1M out with your trade and 19.4M in -- creating ample cap space
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

May 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
Selke trophy voting is not just based on the PK. The correct answer is that players who are soft don't get nominated as a Selke finalist and you're wrong that he is a soft player.
- MJL
It would appear that Nylander is the softer player. Nylander had 32 hits and 29 blocked shots in 82 games while Marner had 59 hits and 51 blocked shots in 69 games. Uh oh!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

May 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
sees a team building lol....you are on a roll today.
- hello it's me 2050

Hey .. I sis I was having fun today ... just go with it :-)
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

May 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
19.1M out with your trade and 19.4M in -- creating ample cap space
- corduroy

And ballooning to 30+ once the Flyers sign them to extensions.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

May 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
What if Michkov is who we think he is/could become? How much do you think he's worth after his ELC?
- Pelle31Forever

He'll get a nice bump ...
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 2 @ 2:27 PM ET
He'll get a nice bump ...
- jd250

when was the last time you did a bump?
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

May 2 @ 2:35 PM ET
Two very different players with very different roles. Poehling ideally is a bottom forward and was over played last season because of necessity. Frost should be a top 6 forward that is consistently generating offense and helping the power play. Now you can say Frost lead the team in PP points this year and that would be true, but that is not saying much when the team had a worst PP in the league and historically the worst PP in franchise history.
- jd250



He led the team in PP points...good or bad...doesn't matter...he led the team. More PP points than TK, Farabee, Foerster, and all of them.

Your comment on it doesn't say much....it says he outperformed TK, Tippett and crew on the PP in less games.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

May 2 @ 2:36 PM ET
He led the team in PP points...god or bad...doesn't matter...he led the team. More PP points than TK, Farabee, Foerster, and all of them.

Your comment on it doesn't say much....it says he outperformed TK, Tippett and crew on the PP in less games.

- TheFreak



facts matter not when there is a false narrative to push
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

May 2 @ 2:38 PM ET
Just having fun here folks, but pretending for a moment the Leafs might look to move on from Marner, Draisaitl wants out of Edmonton if they don't win and Michkov gets out of his contract and comes to the Flyers for next season, here is my crazy off-season plan:

1. Trade TK, Frost, 1st round pick to Edmonton for Draisaitl
2. Trade Laughton, Farabee, 1st round pick to Toronto for Marner
3. Sign Michkov to ELC

Now the Flyers top 6 next year is:

Draisaitl - Michkov - Marner
Couts - Tippet - Foerster



I can dream can't I?

- jd250


So glad that you are not in the Flyers front office.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

May 2 @ 2:43 PM ET
Not really but I see your point. With this plan, the Flyers big contracts would be Draisaitl and Marner, then Couts. The Flyers would have to pay TK anyway, so that would offset some of it.
- jd250


I think you would need some cap gymnastics to make it work and then keep your young talent when they need new deals.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

May 2 @ 2:44 PM ET
So glad that you are not in the Flyers front office.
- TheFreak


he now wants to trade the player that he said they need to keep cause he is the type of player you build around and acquire a player he said was soft

makes total sense
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 2 @ 2:46 PM ET
I give you Draisaitl and Marner are considered elite players. I certainly believe Draisaitl is. But if Draisaitl is not willing to resign then Edmonton will have to move him which means they lack leverage. Draisaitl may want to go to Boston, but Boston does not have the assets that the Flyers have. TK and Frost together combined for 109 points this season, Draisaitl had 106 points. Throw in a 1st round pick and I don't think any team can match that. Farabee and Laughton combined for 89 points this season, Marner had 85 points. Again, throw in a 1st round pick and the leadership Laughton brings that the Leafs desperately need and this will also be hard for another team to beat. And I am confident once both players are here and playing with Michkov, both players will want to resign with the Flyers. Its big money, but well worth it.
- jd250


It's hysterical that you think that the Flyers could acquire two bona fide elite level players without including Michkov in either deal.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 2 @ 2:48 PM ET
Not really but I see your point. With this plan, the Flyers big contracts would be Draisaitl and Marner, then Couts. The Flyers would have to pay TK anyway, so that would offset some of it.
- jd250




Drasaitl 12M
Marner 12M
Couturier 7.75M

When Michkov hits hopefully?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 2 @ 2:49 PM ET
I mean Vegas kind of did.
- J35Bacher


Always an outlier. That has been well discussed and how they used the expansion draft. Good luck trying to replicate that.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

May 2 @ 2:49 PM ET
He led the team in PP points...god or bad...doesn't matter...he led the team. More PP points than TK, Farabee, Foerster, and all of them.

Your comment on it doesn't say much....it says he outperformed TK, Tippett and crew on the PP in less games.

- TheFreak


Spot on.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

May 2 @ 2:53 PM ET
because he sees a team building towards something. The Bruins window is closing. For the Flyers with these moves, their window is just being built.
- jd250


Ah ha!

The Even Newer Era of Orange!
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

May 2 @ 2:53 PM ET
Brind'Amour to test free agency in the coaching ranks.

This could be the gift the Flyers have needed. Briere should stop at pretty much nothing to sign Brindy, fix that major mistake in Flyers history (trading Brind'Amour), and having a coach who understands todays game.

I would not have an issue having Brind'amour having a say in player movements either.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 2 @ 2:54 PM ET
Brind'Amour to test free agency in the coaching ranks.

This could be the gift the Flyers have needed. Briere should stop at pretty much nothing to sign Brindy, fix that major mistake in Flyers history (trading Brind'Amour), and having a coach who understands todays game.

I would not have an issue having Brind'amour having a say in player movements either.

- TheFreak

you thnk this would be dannys call? no way man he has to run it up the flag pole
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

May 2 @ 2:57 PM ET
How does having to pay Konecny anyway offset some of it?

Drasaitl 12M
Marner 12M
Konecny 8.5M
Couturier 7.75M

When Michkov hits hopefully?

- MJL


I think he is saying the Flyers would trade TK if they became available. Still would need some Howie-esque cap wizardry to make it work with the younger players coming off rookie deals... and then when MM time is to get paid it gets more complicated.



Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

May 2 @ 2:58 PM ET
Brind'Amour to test free agency in the coaching ranks.

This could be the gift the Flyers have needed. Briere should stop at pretty much nothing to sign Brindy, fix that major mistake in Flyers history (trading Brind'Amour), and having a coach who understands todays game.

I would not have an issue having Brind'amour having a say in player movements either.

- TheFreak



Said this yesterday.

Be forewarned: you re about to get responses questioning what has Brindy ever won?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

May 2 @ 3:00 PM ET
you thnk this would be dannys call? no way man he has to run it up the flag pole
- hello it's me 2050


GMDB: “Hi John it’s Danny. Would you be ok with it if I fired you and hired Brindy to be the coach?”

Torts: “Are you out of your f€#%ing mind?!?!?”

GMDB: “Okee dokee Torts. Just checking”

Later…

GMDB: “Rod, Danny here. Uhm yeah. I’d love to hire you but Torts won’t give me permission. Good luck in Seattle buddy”
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
did you want to maybe clarify the contradicting statements you made today or are you good with it?


the backpedaling is hilarious






oh, ok...i see the discrepancy now.

you're saying the Flyers should bring him over - but you personally wouldn't bring him over, like, to your house to play in the backyard?

do i have this right?

- anti-lame


Didn’t you know that what he thinks the flyers should do and what he would do are two distinctly different things? lol

If only we all talked that way lol!!


He refuses to answer my question because his hands are covered in cookie crumbs.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
Brind'Amour to test free agency in the coaching ranks.

This could be the gift the Flyers have needed. Briere should stop at pretty much nothing to sign Brindy, fix that major mistake in Flyers history (trading Brind'Amour), and having a coach who understands todays game.

I would not have an issue having Brind'amour having a say in player movements either.

- TheFreak


Knowing how the Canes operate, heavy in analytics and a focus on managing the cap and drafting and developing versus how the Flyers operate. Is a major clash in my view. With the Flyers not remotely close to contending, I wonder why he would want to come here.
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