"also evaluate the overall state of the rebuild."

you are funny Bill!!!
- hello it's me 2050

Jonesy - ".. we’re saying one thing to everyone as far as our messaging that we’re rebuilding, but we made sure to tell everyone on the team that’s BS.”

That's the state of the rebuild.

marner has 49 points in 54 playofff games. on the surface that is good production.
- hello it's me 2050

Yup…but remember he’s a guy that’s well over a point a game in the regular season…his play drops in the playoffs.
Listen…Marner is elite. He has to pick his play up in the playoffs…not fall off. Maybe one day it clicks in…but until it does he’s going to hear it from this fan base and rightfully so.

Jonesy - ".. we’re saying one thing to everyone as far as our messaging that we’re rebuilding, but we made sure to tell everyone on the team that’s BS.”

That's the state of the rebuild.
- Flyers_01

That statement still pisses me off.

Yup…but remember he’s a guy that’s well over a point a game in the regular season…his play drops in the playoffs.
Listen…Marner is elite. He has to pick his play up in the playoffs…not fall off. Maybe one day it clicks in…but until it does he’s going to hear it from this fan base and rightfully so.
- landros 2

He needs to play on a line with Nic D… because he’ll have more space that way, right?

Yup…but remember he’s a guy that’s well over a point a game in the regular season…his play drops in the playoffs.
Listen…Marner is elite. He has to pick his play up in the playoffs…not fall off. Maybe one day it clicks in…but until it does he’s going to hear it from this fan base and rightfully so.
- landros 2

just saying from a points perspective those are damn good numbers. Now mind you points do not tell the whole story.

That statement still pisses me off.
- landros 2

I loved it as he gave a big F U to the fans and they ate it up.

Pretty sure Simon Gagne had a 40 goal season when he played with Forsberg before his foot fell off.

Or he would score more playing with higher level talent? That can be looked at both ways ya know?
- Phillywhiteout

Sure you can - you can also say that ot is a perennial 30/40 goal scorer even though he has never scored 30 goals

My guess without looking would be Carter (46) and Leclair (51).
- MBFlyerfan

Gagne..
Scored 47 in 05/06 and scored 41 in 06/07.

All 4 of the core are not getting it done. At least Matthews plays a full game, and to be fair Nylander has only played one game. Taveras looks shot and Marner just looks lost. If the epic collapse continues TO has really no other alternative but to make some substantial changes….yes the Flyers need elite talent, but there’s 4 elite players that don’t fit.
They are hard to watch….Marchand is just running the show….and the Leafs answer is to send a meathead like Bertuzzi to try and neutralize him…predictable but he’s getting schooled by the master rat.
- landros 2

Well said

Gagne..
Scored 47 in 05/06 and scored 41 in 06/07.
- TheFreak

Jeff Carter had 46 in 08/09 - 15 years ago

Im glad that all current and future Flyers must learn to play the right way at the cost of offensive talent and flair

That statement still pisses me off.
- landros 2

Man .. it was a joke! This was confirmed by both the show host and Jones.

Reggie Leach scored 61 goals in a season - how long has it been since the team had a 40 goal scorer? 50?

Yet fans think this team doesn't need offensive players like Mitch Marner
- corduroy

Propp
Kerr
Tocchet
Recchi
Gagne
LaClair
Carter

Was Carter Hart or any of those player actually suspended by the league?
- hello it's me 2050

I don't think so. I think the players are just "on leave" voluntarily.

Scared is a tad hyperbole. But he he definitely does not want to engage in the battle. It’s noticeable when you have guys like Domi and Bertuzzi at least willing to do it.
- landros 2

They said Mcabe took out Marchand on a play. Marchand told Marner he was coming for him. Ever since that, Marner doe not engage the Bruins

Toronto podcast people say Marner is afraid of Marchand and he also plays soft
- WhiskeyMan

Here is a great example of the difference between a playoff performer and playoff scab:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uOdT2WsqXqY

Marner has 49 points in 54 playoff games, not bad. Pretty obvious that team needs to be broken up. Their blueline and goaltending has been substandard because of the money spent on the forwards. I believe Marner could be rejuvenated with a change of scenery.

Man .. it was a joke! This was confirmed by both the show host and Jones.
- jd250

never ceases to amazes me how you lap up pretty much everything they say. gold standard of hockey.

Jeff Carter had 46 in 08/09 - 15 years ago

Im glad that all current and future Flyers must learn to play the right way at the cost of offensive talent and flair
- corduroy

There it is! Marner, Matthews, Taveras and Nylander just aren’t playing the right way! They need to fire Keef and hire Tortorella immediately.

Marner has 49 points in 54 playoff games, not bad. Pretty obvious that team needs to be broken up. Their blueline and goaltending has been substandard because of the money spent on the forwards. I believe Marner could be rejuvenated with a change of scenery.
- Trox88

all 4 of the core produce from a points POV. Cant really argue about that.

As you said they need to be broken up as it isn't working. it just doesn't click or whatever word one wants to use.

Marner has 49 points in 54 playoff games, not bad. Pretty obvious that team needs to be broken up. Their blueline and goaltending has been substandard because of the money spent on the forwards. I believe Marner could be rejuvenated with a change of scenery.
- Trox88

Samsonov has been horrible and will be gone after the playoffs.
Woll missed most of the season and will be the starter next season.
Jones was below average

The State of the Rebuild is strong. The culture and the room are fixed, and the talent will come. Not worried about talent as that is a secondary issue to the room.

It is a great day as a Flyers fan as this summer is shaping up to be great for the Flyers. TK contract extension should be first order of business for Danny B. I hope a player like Hathaway can be locked up for an extension as well. Talk about a Flyers type player!

Samsonov has been horrible and will be gone after the playoffs.
Woll missed most of the season and will be the starter next season.
Jones was below average
- WhiskeyMan

Their blueline is old and not very good. Curious what the plan is going forward. The UFA market for blueline starts with Walker and Dumba. Pretty slim pickings.

Their blueline is old and not very good. Curious what the plan is going forward. The UFA market for blueline starts with Walker and Dumba. Pretty slim pickings.
- Trox88

With what money?

Domi and Bertuzzi are UFAs.
Woll will want a new contract with a raise
need a backup goalie
Knies will want a new contract with a raise

The big 4take up over 40 million.

I know the cap is going up but not that much
They will either have to trade or resign Marner and/or Taveres

Gagne..
Scored 47 in 05/06 and scored 41 in 06/07.
- TheFreak

Jeff Carter scored 46 in 08/09.

So no.