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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 4:19 PM ET
No comment on that interesting display of logic.

On a more interesting note, why are so many of your digs so evocative of the 1940s/1950s kid banter? Who says things "like take your ball home" amongst middle-aged dudes? One time, you told me to take my toys home.

Another time, you asked Fopa21 whether Giroux had stood him up while he went for cigarettes. And that he shouldn't fret because Giroux is a with different girl now and is happy.

Who says things like that today? Don't get me wrong. It's charming in a weird way.

- PT21


A classic PT21 attempt at deflection. Sort of like ignoring the context and arguing the meaning of a word or the definition of a word. Not according to the actual one, but your twisted version of course
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 30 @ 4:19 PM ET
There was a bolded portion you did not include. Read that part again.
- mickel25


I did, and hoped you wouldn't bring it up.

You interpret querying someone to back up subjective statements with data as taking your ball and going home in a huff?

Are you drunk?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Apr 30 @ 4:21 PM ET
I did, and hoped you wouldn't bring it up.

You interpret querying someone to back up subjective statements with data as taking your ball and going home in a huff?

Are you drunk?

- PT21


They did provide data. You just did not like the data.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Apr 30 @ 4:22 PM ET
A classic PT21 attempt at deflection. Sort of like ignoring the context and arguing the meaning of a word or the definition of a word. Not according to the actual one, but your twisted version of course
- MJL


It is classic PT21 for sure.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 30 @ 4:26 PM ET
They did provide data. You just did not like the data.
- mickel25


Who is the they? Tomahawk? The WAR (data) was posted after the comment you quoted.

It might at this stage be helpful to actually marshal your thoughts and provide something resembling coherence....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 4:29 PM ET
Who is the they? Tomahawk? The WAR (data) was posted after the comment you quoted.

It might at this stage be helpful to actually marshal your thoughts and provide something resembling coherence....

- PT21


More classic PT21. The conversation is not going your way and you're looking foolish so now it's time to move to insults.
The use of the subjective "stratospheric" was also strategic.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Apr 30 @ 4:31 PM ET
Who is the they? Tomahawk? The WAR (data) was posted after the comment you quoted.

It might at this stage be helpful to actually marshal your thoughts and provide something resembling coherence....

- PT21


They're he is
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 30 @ 4:32 PM ET
This WAR thing is a mystery to me. Can you provide me with a ranking of current WARs of players? Where is Point in that ranking?
- PT21


22-23
https://public.tableau.co...2023/WinsAboveReplacement

Sadly Bacon stopped posting for 23-24 and I'm not gonna pay for Evolving Hockey.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 4:34 PM ET
They're he is
- mickel25


You're going to be critiqued on your grammar now.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Apr 30 @ 4:34 PM ET
You're going to be critiqued on your grammar now.

- MJL


He will not be able to resist
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 4:35 PM ET
He will not be able to resist
- mickel25


I apologize. I foiled the trap.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 30 @ 4:36 PM ET
It is classic PT21 for sure.
- mickel25


You are a nice guy and a gentleman. I have on many occasions admired these qualities.

But be grateful that you are in a board where standards of debate are so low and are made anonymously. Because of you replicated your arguments of the preceding hour in any real life forum ...
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Apr 30 @ 4:37 PM ET
I apologize. I foiled the trap.

- MJL


He cannot help himself. Maybe not be today but undoubtedly he will use that at some point in the future as proof I am inferior to him. 100% it will happen.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Apr 30 @ 4:38 PM ET
You are a nice guy and a gentleman. I have on many occasions admired these qualities.

But be grateful that you are in a board where standards of debate are so low and are made anonymously. Because of you replicated your arguments of the preceding hour in any real life forum ...

- PT21


They're he is again.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
You are a nice guy and a gentleman. I have on many occasions admired these qualities.

But be grateful that you are in a board where standards of debate are so low and are made anonymously. Because of you replicated your arguments of the preceding hour in any real life forum ...

- PT21


Would that real life forum be with the rest of your elites? You know the intellectually superior scholars such as yourself. If the standard of debate is so low on here, why do you have such difficulty making intelligent replies to refute the low level arguments offered?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
22-23
https://public.tableau.co...2023/WinsAboveReplacement

Sadly Bacon stopped posting for 23-24 and I'm not gonna pay for Evolving Hockey.

- Tomahawk



I looked at this. Thanks. But I don't see a WAR column organized by %.

Am I overlooking something?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 30 @ 4:48 PM ET
Would that real life forum be with the rest of your elites? You know the intellectually superior scholars such as yourself. If the standard of debate is so low on here, why do you have such difficulty making intelligent replies to refute the low level arguments offered?
- MJL



Is calling a dumb person dumb a sign of elitism?

I thought guys like you were against political correctness?

mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Apr 30 @ 4:49 PM ET
Is calling a dumb person dumb a sign of elitism?

I thought guys like you were against political correctness?


- PT21


Is "dumb" bad?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 4:52 PM ET
Is calling a dumb person dumb a sign of elitism?

I thought guys like you were against political correctness?


- PT21


Actually no, that's just the group you think you belong with and that you think is better than everyone else. Your repeated need to, when you lose the debate, which is often the case. To have to attack someone personally. Or to deflect to something out of the context such as you did today. Is a sign of a lack of intelligence and a dumb person. The irony is that by calling someone dumb, you don't realize how you make yourself look stupid. It's hysterical.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 30 @ 4:52 PM ET
I looked at this. Thanks. But I don't see a WAR column organized by %.

Am I overlooking something?

- PT21


It's just the players ranking expressed in percentile.

So if Point was 10th out of ~900 players so he was 98-99%.

Kuch was ranked 28th out of ~900 players so he was 96-97%.

PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 30 @ 4:53 PM ET
Is "dumb" bad?
- mickel25


Not necessarily. But the state of being dumb is not something subjective.

It is like being shorter than average. It is a fact.

And it is a impediment to debate. One has to work harder to overcome it.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Apr 30 @ 4:54 PM ET
I should have taken the last hour off. #mybad
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 30 @ 4:55 PM ET
You are a nice guy and a gentleman. I have on many occasions admired these qualities.

But be grateful that you are in a board where standards of debate are so low and are made anonymously. Because of you replicated your arguments of the preceding hour in any real life forum ...

- PT21


I think it is amusing that you are focusing on the nuances of mickel25 terminology about "who says this/that anymore." All the while, your writing is on par with an low-end Ivy school dropout that keeps his Thesaurus within arms length at all times.

I couldn't make it but look at me! I am smart! Get over yourself.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 4:55 PM ET
Not necessarily. But the state of being dumb is not something subjective.

It is like being shorter than average. It is a fact.

And it is a impediment to debate. One has to work harder to overcome it.

- PT21


The tape measure doesn't have a human bias or an agenda.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 4:55 PM ET
I think it is amusing that you are focusing on the nuances of mickel25 terminology about "who says this/that anymore." All the while, your writing is on par with an low-end Ivy school dropout that keeps his Thesaurus within arms length at all times.

I couldn't make it but look at me! I am smart! Get over yourself.

- Flyfly


Summed up perfectly.
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