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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Apr 26 @ 3:47 PM ET
Yeqh supposedly. Philly should’ve told his agent they weren’t trading him. And forced him to talk. There’s ZERO chance a top 5 pick is gonna sit in college 4 years to become free agent.

Charlie is a beat reporter with direct connection to flyers he says he got info from a very reliable source he trust. Could be fluff but what would be the point? It has passed and reported (laugh laugh) bonus overage already accepted by the blind. Why even bring it up. Other than it was bs

- Stayin alive


I agree that the Flyers should have played hard ball and waited him out. I think Briere got an ok return but he definitely blinked despite having the upper hand.

I really don't care at this point what circumstances led up to the trade.

Hopefully JD is a legit top pair d-man.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 26 @ 4:22 PM ET
The real story about what happened with Quitter and the Flyers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRS4VeuflIA

- jd250

How is this the real story? It’s just more speculation.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 26 @ 4:26 PM ET
I agree that the Flyers should have played hard ball and waited him out. I think Briere got an ok return but he definitely blinked despite having the upper hand.

I really don't care at this point what circumstances led up to the trade.

Hopefully JD is a legit top pair d-man.

- mickel25


The circumstances only matter in gauging what could team do in future in similar situations. But yeah for this instance I don’t care either. Jd certainly doesn’t look like a stud top pair dman. Looking at best as a sidekick if even that.


Meanwhile if cg goes on to produce as expected when drafted that’s a huge defiance setting back move
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 26 @ 4:48 PM ET
I am actaully discouraged by some of the stuff. Signing staal, not leaving room for any of the AHLers to prove if they have it. Eric Johnson, didnt need. Only thing he has done to prove he is rebuilding is trade walker, I do like the return he got for walker though, considering guentzel didnt even get a 1st rounder
- bradster
How bout the Provorov trade?
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Apr 26 @ 4:52 PM ET
bottom line is the flyers f'ed up. That is all that matters.

IMO Freidman. Charley is a schill

- hello it's me 2050

Friedman said the Flyers are very hard to get information from so he’s likely getting it from Cutters agent. This isn’t the 1970’s anymore where scoops are found out over drinks. Information is leaked on purpose. Charlie’s benefits the Flyers so obviously coming from them. Friedman benefits Cutter so obviously coming from his agent.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 26 @ 4:58 PM ET
Friedman said the Flyers are very hard to get information from so he’s likely getting it from Cutters agent. This isn’t the 1970’s anymore where scoops are found out over drinks. Information is leaked on purpose. Charlie’s benefits the Flyers so obviously coming from them. Friedman benefits Cutter so obviously coming from his agent.
- psuhockey


Even more reason to doubt the twit (Friedman) and I like him actually. People really need to learn to stop just taking what’s reported as facts or even believing what’s said without using some basic thinking skills. It’s really not hard to listen and think what seems logical and piece together from all the reports what likely makes sense. Or some form of it. Cap overage was a complete joke and I can’t believe far superior people like mjl ran with that as a basis for information because it was reported. That should’ve been immediately dismissed as a joke
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 26 @ 5:01 PM ET
Where is MJL?
- Dkos
Shhhhhhhhhh...please, just shhhhhhhhhhhh.........leave the sleeping dog lay.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:13 PM ET
Even more reason to doubt the twit (Friedman) and I like him actually. People really need to learn to stop just taking what’s reported as facts or even believing what’s said without using some basic thinking skills. It’s really not hard to listen and think what seems logical and piece together from all the reports what likely makes sense. Or some form of it. Cap overage was a complete joke and I can’t believe far superior people like mjl ran with that as a basis for information because it was reported. That should’ve been immediately dismissed as a joke
- Stayin alive

Always the truth is probably in the middle. The Flyers screwed up communicating with their top prospect and Cutter seems like an awful dude. Sadly this is going to be talked about for the next 10 years or so.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 26 @ 5:37 PM ET
not me no fn way....always go for the chubby one lol

https://genius.com/The-co...-girl-to-marry-you-lyrics

- hello it's me 2050


Don’t let the wife ever read this…😂
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 5:43 PM ET
Pure speculation on the hosts behalf. He even says so about 1:37 in.

"What I do suspect might have happened is..."

He was not there and this is his interpretation of what happened.
Changes nothing.

- TheFreak


It was posted by jd250. Nothing to expect from it.
therabbi
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 10.14.2020

Apr 26 @ 5:51 PM ET
Always the truth is probably in the middle. The Flyers screwed up communicating with their top prospect and Cutter seems like an awful dude. Sadly this is going to be talked about for the next 10 years or so.
- psuhockey


I thought Cutter quit on the flyers when they wouldn't agree to bring him to NHL this past season? He already plays for ducks with a real uniform and linemates and everything. He got what he wanted.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 26 @ 5:58 PM ET
Shhhhhhhhhh...please, just shhhhhhhhhhhh.........leave the sleeping dog lay.

- Phillywhiteout

doctors appointment
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 26 @ 5:59 PM ET
It was posted by jd250. Nothing to expect from it.
- MJL

how did you make out at the doctors?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 26 @ 5:59 PM ET
It was posted by jd250. Nothing to expect from it.
- MJL

trolling as usual
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 26 @ 6:12 PM ET
Always the truth is probably in the middle. The Flyers screwed up communicating with their top prospect and Cutter seems like an awful dude. Sadly this is going to be talked about for the next 10 years or so.
- psuhockey
I can just imagine that every goal Quitter scores will be instantly broadcasted on here with a bunch of ba ha's to follow. It's gonna be cataclysmic!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 6:13 PM ET
Wait wait wait. Db didn’t (frank) it up by bonus overages? “That’s insane”


But but but “it’s been widely reported(means facts) by twits like Friedman.

~ mjl

EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. IT MAKES NO (frank)ING SENSE BONUS OVERAGE WAS REASON HE WASNT SIGNED IN 3/23.

God it hurts being proven right. (frank) off mjl. Try to spin this. Db for WHATEVER reason decided not to sign him in 3/23. Bonus overages my big fat taint.


And suck it to all those that questioned me for calling these people that “reported” it as twits. Because that’s exactly what ANYONE is if they believe this bs narrative thrown out there when it makes no logical sense at all. (frank)ING PIGEONS

- Stayin alive



All this shows, is how big of an idiot you are. So Eliotte Friedman, who is one of the most respected and connected hockey reporters in the business, is a twit. What he reported is a bs narrative. However you watch a Youtube video from a guy who is basically a company shill for the Flyers. In which he flat out states that he is guessing. And that proves you right? I knew you were stupid but I didn't think you were that stupid. Briere not wanting to sign him at the end of the 22/23 season due to bonus overages issues doesn't make sense, but according to the "guess" in the video of Gauthier wanted them to beg them, makes sense. Got it.

Now onto what really makes you an idiot. According to you, what Friedman reported is not fact but what those guys reported, even when they flat out stated that they were guessing. Those are the "facts" that prove you right. I know that you're not aware of that obvious double standard.

You have an issue with recalling and accurately posting what others post. I proved in a recent thread that not only are you incapable of accurately recalling what others post. You're incapable of accurately recalling your own posts. I can link to that proof is necessary.


This puts an end to it. You can post all you want, make all the claims of I said this, I said that in drunken rants with broken english. It will not matter. You have been completely exposed for the fool you are and I have no reason to interact with you further.


THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 26 @ 6:30 PM ET
Quitter is a brat and he showed his immaturity before the National championship game by by saying that they were going to make the other team cry. Who does that? A spoiled little brat...that's who! I hope someone gives him the Derian Hatcher treatment (Crosby) in his first game against Philly!
- Phillywhiteout

And then he scores the game winning goal and promptly (frank)s the franchise for the next 15 years
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 26 @ 6:40 PM ET
And then he scores the game winning goal and promptly (frank)s the franchise for the next 15 years
- THE BLACK HAND


Exactly. Ha ha.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 26 @ 6:44 PM ET
All this shows, is how big of an idiot you are. So Eliotte Friedman, who is one of the most respected and connected hockey reporters in the business, is a twit. What he reported is a bs narrative. However you watch a Youtube video from a guy who is basically a company shill for the Flyers. In which he flat out states that he is guessing. And that proves you right? I knew you were stupid but I didn't think you were that stupid. Briere not wanting to sign him at the end of the 22/23 season due to bonus overages issues doesn't make sense, but according to the "guess" in the video of Gauthier wanted them to beg them, makes sense. Got it.

Now onto what really makes you an idiot. According to you, what Friedman reported is not fact but what those guys reported, even when they flat out stated that they were guessing. Those are the "facts" that prove you right. I know that you're not aware of that obvious double standard.

You have an issue with recalling and accurately posting what others post. I proved in a recent thread that not only are you incapable of accurately recalling what others post. You're incapable of accurately recalling your own posts. I can link to that proof is necessary.


This puts an end to it. You can post all you want, make all the claims of I said this, I said that in drunken rants with broken english. It will not matter. You have been completely exposed for the fool you are and I have no reason to interact with you further.

- MJL



Don’t even need to read it all. You are a retard. Please oh wise one give us just 1 example where a top 5 pick wasn’t signed because of a hahahahahahaahahahaahahah CAP OVERAGE.


lmao double down. Even the twit admitted he has problems getting info on flyers. Hey I like the twit but the difference is you are a retard and blindly take anything that’s “reported” as fact to try to back your narrative. Even when it logically makes ZERO sense. Retards do that
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 6:51 PM ET
Don’t even need to read it all. You are a retard. Please oh wise one give us just 1 example where a top 5 pick wasn’t signed because of a hahahahahahaahahahaahahah CAP OVERAGE.


lmao double down. Even the twit admitted he has problems getting info on flyers. Hey I like the twit but the difference is you are a retard and blindly take anything that’s “reported” as fact to try to back your narrative. Even when it logically makes ZERO sense. Retards do that

- Stayin alive


You blindly took what was said in that video as fact and claimed that it proved you correct, you jackass! Even when he flat out said he was guessing.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 26 @ 7:35 PM ET
You blindly took what was said in that video as fact and claimed that it proved you correct, you jackass! Even when he flat out said he was guessing.

- MJL

Hey retard…. You blindly took what was reported by Friedman and others that cap overage was why db didn’t sign cg in 3/23.


So if we both blindly did that what seems more plausible? Give us 1 example of a top pick not signed because of cap overage. You’re a moron to believe that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 7:42 PM ET
Hey retard…. You blindly took what was reported by Friedman and others that cap overage was why db didn’t sign cg in 3/23.


So if we both blindly did that what seems more plausible? Give us 1 example of a top pick not signed because of cap overage. You’re a moron to believe that.

- Stayin alive


Sure, right after you give one example of a top pick not signing because they wanted to be begged by the team that drafted them. You're a moron to believe that.

Honestly, are you that stupid. Now I'm really done.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Apr 26 @ 7:56 PM ET
If what Charlie said is true this kid would never have survived in this market. If he’s that sensitive he’d have crumbled during his first slump. Hopefully Drysdale develops into a better player and we can all look back at this years from now as a dodged bullet.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 26 @ 8:07 PM ET
Sure, right after you give one example of a top pick not signing because they wanted to be begged by the team that drafted them. You're a moron to believe that.

Honestly, are you that stupid. Now I'm really done.

- MJL

Retard. Try to follow along. IM NOT GHE ONE WHO SAID WHY DB DIDNT SIGN HIM 3/23. YOU DID
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 26 @ 8:12 PM ET
Sure, right after you give one example of a top pick not signing because they wanted to be begged by the team that drafted them. You're a moron to believe that.

Honestly, are you that stupid. Now I'm really done.

- MJL

Also want to point 4th time you responded. Clearly NOT done. Even get that wrong. You suck
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