Nobody will want to play for a canadian team after that fiasco of theirs. That how it works?
- LFS

It was a red font post.

Your cardinals suck as well
- LFS

And the cubbies are any better? I REALLY do not not care about baseball at all. Try a better attempt at an insult

Habs dynastieswere better
- LFS

So were the Oiler and Islander dynasties, but none of those teams had to deal with salary caps

Kaiser is due for new paper after next season and KK, DelMastro and Allan the year after. If we assume they are still with the organization by that time and progress and a couple work themselves into top 4D positions, have to wonder if Vlasic's contract will be a comparable to what they'll be getting.

The blue line will be awfully crowded in 2-3 years with the above, Vlasic, Jones, Rinzel a short ways away, and possibly this year's highly drafted prospect.
- boilermaker100

Well maybe. I think some of those guys might land on shorter term 2-4 year deals in the ~3 million range. Really depends on so many things.

I think Vlasic proved himself to be one notch above a guy who can just play in the top 4, but he was able to take a bit of extra load and play at a pretty high level, especially defensively.

Some of the guys coming up, depends how fast they get their game under them and if they pan out. I just don't think everyone in the top 4 is created equal and some guys might bounce between the 4/5/6/7 slot a fair bit in the next couple seasons. Kaiser had some flashes, but I don't think we've seen more than 3rd pairing from him yet. Korchinski is still young and raw so we need to see more on how he progresses. Del Mastro showing promise but only 2 games in the NHL in his career so really don't know what we have yet.

I just don't think we need to worry about the blueline being too crowded. I think Kyle Davidson will move assets once we get to renewing contracts and we have an abundance of guys who can play D at the level that places them firmly in the top 4.

We still have so many question marks.

Like Connor Murphy, it was actually pretty concerning in my mind that he couldn't play the final game of the year and they went with 5D. I mean, he was healthy enough that they brought him back in the lineup for the last few games, but then he had a setback already again. That really made me think there is a real possibility that his issues may continue long term. It's entirely possible that Murphy will end up on LTIR before the end of this deal. His status might prompt KD to aim higher in the UFA market when it comes to adding RD depth.

Vlasic has proven this year he can play top 2-4 mins (wondering if that makes him a middle 2-3 dman 😉) and be a stay at home shut down dman. He's also shown he can skate and may have more offense in his game.

You can absolutely compare them. Maybe if the Oilers had locked up Bouchard if he was willing to a deal similar to Vlasic's, they wouldn't be staring at a Jones like deal on his contract in a year.

Doesn't seem like very good asset management now does it?
- HawkintheD

I think Vlasic can play more than 2 - 4 minutes per game. Certainly not more than 10 minutes per game, but more than 4.

Well maybe. I think some of those guys might land on shorter term 2-4 year deals in the ~3 million range. Really depends on so many things.

I think Vlasic proved himself to be one notch above a guy who can just play in the top 4, but he was able to take a bit of extra load and play at a pretty high level, especially defensively.

Some of the guys coming up, depends how fast they get their game under them and if they pan out. I just don't think everyone in the top 4 is created equal and some guys might bounce between the 4/5/6/7 slot a fair bit in the next couple seasons. Kaiser had some flashes, but I don't think we've seen more than 3rd pairing from him yet. Korchinski is still young and raw so we need to see more on how he progresses. Del Mastro showing promise but only 2 games in the NHL in his career so really don't know what we have yet.

I just don't think we need to worry about the blueline being too crowded. I think Kyle Davidson will move assets once we get to renewing contracts and we have an abundance of guys who can play D at the level that places them firmly in the top 4.

We still have so many question marks.

Like Connor Murphy, it was actually pretty concerning in my mind that he couldn't play the final game of the year and they went with 5D. I mean, he was healthy enough that they brought him back in the lineup for the last few games, but then he had a setback already again. That really made me think there is a real possibility that his issues may continue long term. It's entirely possible that Murphy will end up on LTIR before the end of this deal. His status might prompt KD to aim higher in the UFA market when it comes to adding RD depth.
- breadbag

Ideally you want the goal, or defence or forwards to be too crowded. Better than not having enough talent and you can always trade someone making it crowded to shore up another position. You can never have too much talent.

I finally finished rewatching the Ivan Hlinka - Gretzky tourney from summer and am loving the current World Junior Under-18, because some may kids in the the rest three drafts are playing and they all are very good.

Well maybe. I think some of those guys might land on shorter term 2-4 year deals in the ~3 million range. Really depends on so many things.

I think Vlasic proved himself to be one notch above a guy who can just play in the top 4, but he was able to take a bit of extra load and play at a pretty high level, especially defensively.

Some of the guys coming up, depends how fast they get their game under them and if they pan out. I just don't think everyone in the top 4 is created equal and some guys might bounce between the 4/5/6/7 slot a fair bit in the next couple seasons. Kaiser had some flashes, but I don't think we've seen more than 3rd pairing from him yet. Korchinski is still young and raw so we need to see more on how he progresses. Del Mastro showing promise but only 2 games in the NHL in his career so really don't know what we have yet.

I just don't think we need to worry about the blueline being too crowded. I think Kyle Davidson will move assets once we get to renewing contracts and we have an abundance of guys who can play D at the level that places them firmly in the top 4.

We still have so many question marks.

Like Connor Murphy, it was actually pretty concerning in my mind that he couldn't play the final game of the year and they went with 5D. I mean, he was healthy enough that they brought him back in the lineup for the last few games, but then he had a setback already again. That really made me think there is a real possibility that his issues may continue long term. It's entirely possible that Murphy will end up on LTIR before the end of this deal. His status might prompt KD to aim higher in the UFA market when it comes to adding RD depth.
- breadbag

Statement of the day!!

Also, I think we can just group all of our local sports under the "Chibusto" umbrella. Saves us from the extra keystrokes and wasted brain cells trying to find new ways to squeeze it in.

I’m watching Canada in the Hlinka cup. Iginla looks very good. Ryder Ritchie and Henry Mews also look really good, if either slips out of the first round they’d look good in a Hawk jersey.

I’m watching Canada in the Hlinka cup. Iginla looks very good. Ryder Ritchie and Henry Mews also look really good, if either slips out of the first round they’d look good in a Hawk jersey.
- paulr

Iginla would be a nice pick-up with the Tampa pick, but I doubt he lasts that long in the draft.

2-2-2-3-4

So do you let Draisaitl and McDavid walk when their contracts are up or do you resign them and pay them for 8 years when they turn 37 years old the contract expires.

One Vlasic grew up in the Chicagoland area, 2 when this team starts winning he's not going to want to leave, 3 they paid him a bunch of money up front so he doesn't have to worry about his next contract. That contract coincides with Seth jones contract expires, oh and if he can stay healthy if they sign him to an 8 year deal his contract would expire around 36, now that's perfect for a defenseman.
- BetweenTheDots

They are both going to be UFAs so it is up to them. Gun to my head, I would resign McDavid and try to trade Draisaitl for a haul before his contract expires. I would not want 2 guys at top dollar in decline and I think McDavid's speed might keep him elite a bit longer than the Draisaitl.

They are both going to be UFAs so it is up to them. Gun to my head, I would resign McDavid and try to trade Draisaitl for a haul before his contract expires. I would not want 2 guys at top dollar in decline and I think McDavid's speed might keep him elite a bit longer than the Draisaitl.
- stevefrmglencoe

What's the point of McDavid signing if they don't sign Draisaitl? Yea he might of gotten a good deal on him but now if he wants to keep McDavid he's going to have to bite the bullet and sign both of them. Isn't the goal to win a Stanley Cup

I finally finished rewatching the Ivan Hlinka - Gretzky tourney from summer and am loving the current World Junior Under-18, because some may kids in the the rest three drafts are playing and they all are very good.
- wiz1901

Think Eiserman had a hattrick last game.

am loving the current World Junior Under-18, because some may kids in the the rest three drafts are playing and they all are very good.
- wiz1901

US and Canadian rosters and what yr they are draft eligible. https://www.flohockey.tv/...championship-what-to-know

So were the Oiler and Islander dynasties, but none of those teams had to deal with salary caps
- paulr

Nor did any other teams at the time

And the cubbies are any better? I REALLY do not not care about baseball at all. Try a better attempt at an insult
- BluesDroogie

Yes, the cubs are better. Facts arent insults. Go play under the arch.

So were the Oiler and Islander dynasties, but none of those teams had to deal with salary caps
- paulr

None won five cups in a row. Habs did it several times

Does anybody know if Gavin Hayes is signed?

Does anybody know if Gavin Hayes is signed?
- Tatoo

Yup. Signed in April of last year. If you go to the CapFriendly website and scroll to the bottom of the Blackhawks page, they have a list of non-roster players that are signed, but not on the big club.

Edit: I just noticed he joined the Icehogs.

The lottery drawing is on May 7th. Mark your calendars!

Yup. Signed in April of last year. If you go to the CapFriendly website and scroll to the bottom of the Blackhawks page, they have a list of non-roster players that are signed, but not on the big club.

Edit: I just noticed he joined the Icehogs.
- Chunk

He's listed at 6-2 176 lbs. Dude, eat a couple burgers!

None won five cups in a row. Habs did it several times
- LFS

And until expansion took away the habs exclusively the player rights to most Quebec prospects, they were provided a arsenal of bargaining chips to keep layers like Tardiff and Houle, and then take their surplus to get Guy Lafluer's first overall pick.

I am not trying to downplay the sheer idea of a five peat, but expansion changed that, but also the islanders go lots of early picks b/c the were so bad.

All this discussion about the Vlasic signing and if it does or does not screw the rebuild when we are nears dominant phases where guys need $ to re-up them.

Everyone is talking like all the pieces with fall into place and suddenly 2009 happens and you can SEE that they are GOING:

This deal has nothing to do with champions or challenging.

Did the drafts and signing fall in place in Detroit?

Hawks may be floundering WITH the kids they have drafted not achieving the results they expect, a coaching change, the lack of a goalie who can be a difference in the post season....too many variables that are out of our hands and Vlasic's deal is an issue?

Who knows it the defense in five years has none of the current rearguards and he is last to get traded with the failures.

The kid came in and proved he can be a NHL defenseman so they paid him. I am sure they feel good at that 2nd contract.

Nor did any other teams at the time
- LFS

Yes, they drafted well and constructed great teams, however there were no cap casualties like Buff, Ladd, and TT for example. Don’t you think the Hawks would have won another cup or two if there were no cap casualties? I do.

All this discussion about the Vlasic signing and if it does or does not screw the rebuild when we are nears dominant phases where guys need $ to re-up them.

Everyone is talking like all the pieces with fall into place and suddenly 2009 happens and you can SEE that they are GOING:

This deal has nothing to do with champions or challenging.

Did the drafts and signing fall in place in Detroit?

Hawks may be floundering WITH the kids they have drafted not achieving the results they expect, a coaching change, the lack of a goalie who can be a difference in the post season....too many variables that are out of our hands and Vlasic's deal is an issue?

Who knows it the defense in five years has none of the current rearguards and he is last to get traded with the failures.

The kid came in and proved he can be a NHL defenseman so they paid him. I am sure they feel good at that 2nd contract.
- wiz1901

There is exactly one guy here saying that by my count.