We have a wild one in the Peg

I disagree. There’s a time and place for Torts. If you have a great team that is underperforming, then he’s the right guy to bring in, similar to Flyers 09-10 when they brought in Laviolette. He’s not the worst coach you can have, several young players have made strides the last 2 seasons with him as HC. The game has not passed him by, he has the Flyers playing at a faster pace than several previous coaches and that’s one reason they’ve played above their true level.
- Schmojo

Laviolette is a modern day NHL coach who understand that the NHL is an attack league. Not a defensive first league. If I had a great and talented team, Tortorella is the last coach I would bring in if the team was underperforming. He hasn't done squat in the NHL in 20 years. The game has completely passed him by. All he has done is brought structure to the team. That is his only bullet he has as a coach. He is poor at in game tactics, player deployment and offensive play. He is horrible with young players. The Flyers will never get anywhere in this league as long as Tortorella is involved. He is not what you think he is.

We have a wild one in the Peg
- MBFlyerfan

Fantastic hockey

Fantastic hockey
- Just5

Put some good cash down on those Jets cause I got some good odds on them! Picked them to come out of the west. Finally a playoff game as was said! God the Caps are boring. They are so boring I think I have to root for the Rags to get them outta here.

Where do you regurgitate and steal more of your points from: Flyers Nation or Sirius Radio?
- THE BLACK HAND

Why do you continue to try to engage me? Do you have a mental problem? And for the last time, I don't like guys, so please stop stalking me. GNAT!!

Fantastic hockey
- Just5

These teams in playoff mode would be men against boys if they played the Flyers. We aren't close.

Why do you continue to try to engage me? Do you have a mental problem? And for the last time, I don't like guys, so please stop stalking me. GNAT!!
- Phillywhiteout

answer the question, Sybil...you pig

These teams in playoff mode would be men against boys if they played the Flyers. We aren't close.
- MBFlyerfan

Seems like a lack of balls to me

Put some good cash down on those Jets cause I got some good odds on them! Picked them to come out of the west. Finally a playoff game as was said! God the Caps are boring. They are so boring I think I have to root for the Rags to get them outta here.
- Phillywhiteout

Why do you think I wanted the pens to squeak in? Caps are like looking in a mirror

Goaltending going to be the Avalanche achilles heel.

These teams in playoff mode would be men against boys if they played the Flyers. We aren't close.
- MBFlyerfan

Jets are the anti-flyers. Flying all over the ice ton of skill. 7 goals on just 22 shots. Feels like 20 of them grade A chances. Flyers would be shut out with 30 shots

Goaltending going to be the Avalanche achilles heel.
- MBFlyerfan

I agree, I have never been sold on Georgiev...much like Samsonov in Toronto. They may look good in the regular season over the slow grind, but when the pressure is up they tend to fall.

To a point I feel the same about Sorokin and Shesterkin in NY...until they show otherwise.

Edit: Just realized I mentioned all Russian goaltenders....maybe I am bias against Russian goaltenders, really don't know.

answer the question, Sybil...you pig
- THE BLACK HAND

This is not a place to pick up guys. Perhaps you need to go to your gym tough guy. Were you ever on the show BIGGEST LOSER by any chance? If you weren't, you certainly missed your calling in life. Please seek help GNAT!

Let’s bookmark this page. The Jets are having a good Game 1 but Nathan McKinnon and Cale Makar are still among the cream of the crop.

How about those Jets

Why do you think I wanted the pens to squeak in? Caps are like looking in a mirror
- Just5

I can't root for the Pens under any circumstances. If I said "Let's go Pens" my tongue would snap off it's roller.

Let’s bookmark this page. The Jets are having a good Game 1 but Nathan McKinnon and Cale Makar are still among the cream of the crop.
- roenick97

Should be a great series. Avs have the upper echelon talent and the Jets are a deep team (13 players with double digit goals) with the best goalie in the league. I put some good cash on the Jets to come out of the west, so Go Jets Go!

I disagree. There’s a time and place for Torts. If you have a great team that is underperforming, then he’s the right guy to bring in, similar to Flyers 09-10 when they brought in Laviolette. He’s not the worst coach you can have, several young players have made strides the last 2 seasons with him as HC. The game has not passed him by, he has the Flyers playing at a faster pace than several previous coaches and that’s one reason they’ve played above their true level.
- Schmojo

That's what the Aquilinis thought when they brought Torts to Vancouver.

He took a team that was still in a contending window and tried to bend all the vets to his will. He's never happy just to push a team over the top. He always has to remake a team in his image. It was one of the more spectacular failures in recent memory. The minute he was gone they went back to being a 100 pt team.

The sad fact is... Philly is actually the perfect situation for Torts. A team he can shape from the ground up, a place where his antics are not only tolerated but celebrated. No superstar egos to deal with, no powerful GM to put him in his place, no overbearing owners to pull the plug. He can run completely rampant here as the dictator of sorts.

Unfortunately... it's not the perfect situation for the Flyers. They'll give off the whiff of competitiveness while he's here until the players finally get tired of his BS (they're already starting to)... then they'll bottom out, and the fans will be left with a team as lost in the weeds as the Blue Jackets are now.

So basically Torts is a failure because he couldn’t turn Vancouver around in one single season or make miracles happen in Columbus. What’s the Blue Jackets success rate again in their history? Last I checked Torts wasn’t fired…he left. Who exactly is Philly’s big game breaking stud?

I’ll admit, Torts is far from perfect but I’d also consider looking up and down the line ups of all the most recent Stanley cup winning teams in comparison to the teams Torts has had to coach. Let’s not act like talent doesn’t matter. I think the only reason why the Flyers came as far as they have was coaching. Add a power play coach or actual offensive talent and we probably convincingly get into the first round.

Oh and seeing how Torts is so terrible with kids, I think Torts was the first person to notice “the small details” that kept Tyson Foerster on the team.

So basically Torts is a failure because he couldn’t turn Vancouver around in one single season or make miracles happen in Columbus. What’s the Blue Jackets success rate again in their history? Last I checked Torts wasn’t fired…he left. Who exactly is Philly’s big game breaking stud?

I’ll admit, Torts is far from perfect but I’d also consider looking up and down the line ups of all the most recent Stanley cup winning teams in comparison to the teams Torts has had to coach. Let’s not act like talent doesn’t matter. I think the only reason why the Flyers came as far as they have was coaching. Add a power play coach or actual offensive talent and we probably convincingly get into the first round.

Oh and seeing how Torts is so terrible with kids, I think Torts was the first person to notice “the small details” that kept Tyson Foerster on the team.
- roenick97

Exactly, people always latch onto that 1 season in Vancouver ignoring every other stop in his career. Let’s not forget a lot of the issues in Vancouver were because he saw Luongo’s decline before anyone else and didn’t care about the backlash. Is he Scotty Bowman? No, but he’s a damn good coach.

He’s honestly quite a lot like Laviolette. People here just ignore this because Lavy had a lot more talent than the team has had for years. Want to talk about not handling young players? Lavy is largely responsible for the Flyers signing Bryz, and trading Richards, Carter, and eventually Bobrovsky. But because of the 2010 finals run, the other issues are ignored. Remember “dry island” it’s the same kinda BS. One area the Flyers have improved is their transition game and playing faster. Prior to Torts they have been one of the slowest playing teams for years.

The Flyers problem is a lack of elite talent. End of story. And to my original point is the main issue with Torts. He’s gets more out of his teams, BECAUSE HE’S A GOOD COACH, and that has cost the Flyers a better draft position.

Let’s all just hope Briere has some trick up his sleeve and can acquire elite talent in some way none of the rest of us can see right now.

Laviolette is a modern day NHL coach who understand that the NHL is an attack league. Not a defensive first league. If I had a great and talented team, Tortorella is the last coach I would bring in if the team was underperforming. He hasn't done squat in the NHL in 20 years. The game has completely passed him by. All he has done is brought structure to the team. That is his only bullet he has as a coach. He is poor at in game tactics, player deployment and offensive play. He is horrible with young players. The Flyers will never get anywhere in this league as long as Tortorella is involved. He is not what you think he is.
- MJL

Lavys attack first has gotten him 1 Stanley cup. Torts defense first has gotten him 1 Stanley cup.

Lavy has reaches the playoffs 13 times which includes this year. Torts has reached 12 times.

Lavy is in new york now with so much elite talent that they are a favorite to win the cup. Will he be considered a failure if they don't?

Exactly, people always latch onto that 1 season in Vancouver ignoring every other stop in his career. Let’s not forget a lot of the issues in Vancouver were because he saw Luongo’s decline before anyone else and didn’t care about the backlash. Is he Scotty Bowman? No, but he’s a damn good coach.

He’s honestly quite a lot like Laviolette. People here just ignore this because Lavy had a lot more talent than the team has had for years. Want to talk about not handling young players? Lavy is largely responsible for the Flyers signing Bryz, and trading Richards, Carter, and eventually Bobrovsky. But because of the 2010 finals run, the other issues are ignored. Remember “dry island” it’s the same kinda BS. One area the Flyers have improved is their transition game and playing faster. Prior to Torts they have been one of the slowest playing teams for years.

The Flyers problem is a lack of elite talent. End of story. And to my original point is the main issue with Torts. He’s gets more out of his teams, BECAUSE HE’S A GOOD COACH, and that has cost the Flyers a better draft position.

Let’s all just hope Briere has some trick up his sleeve and can acquire elite talent in some way none of the rest of us can see right now.
- Schmojo

You blow off Vancouver as isolated then in an attempt to compare him to Laviolette, bring up isolated incidents. If you think Tortorella and Laviolette are alike, then you know nothing about Laviolette. His systems, style of play and philosophies.

I'd love to see you document how Laviolette is responsible for the signing of Bobrovsky and the trades of Carter and Richards.

Tortorella is incredibly overrated and the idea that he gets more out of his teams, is a myth. Since he won the Cup in 2004, he has been past the 2nd round of the playoffs once. In 17 seasons as an NHL coach. He is overrated. Good at coaching defensive hockey, installing structure. That is the extent of his coaching bullets. He is essentially a high price interim coach. Then you add in his poor game strategy, player deployment, his schizophrenia on seeking confrontation and poor handling of young players. The Flyers are screwed as long as he is around.

Lavys attack first has gotten him 1 Stanley cup. Torts defense first has gotten him 1 Stanley cup.

Lavy has reaches the playoffs 13 times which includes this year. Torts has reached 12 times.

Lavy is in new york now with so much elite talent that they are a favorite to win the cup. Will he be considered a failure if they don't?
- WhiskeyMan

Laviolette's current team won the Presidents trophy and is a contender for the Cup. Laviolette has won the Cup, been to the Finals two other times. Tortorella has been past the 2nd round once in the last 17 seasons of coaching.

Exactly, people always latch onto that 1 season in Vancouver ignoring every other stop in his career. Let’s not forget a lot of the issues in Vancouver were because he saw Luongo’s decline before anyone else and didn’t care about the backlash. Is he Scotty Bowman? No, but he’s a damn good coach.

He’s honestly quite a lot like Laviolette. People here just ignore this because Lavy had a lot more talent than the team has had for years. Want to talk about not handling young players? Lavy is largely responsible for the Flyers signing Bryz, and trading Richards, Carter, and eventually Bobrovsky. But because of the 2010 finals run, the other issues are ignored. Remember “dry island” it’s the same kinda BS. One area the Flyers have improved is their transition game and playing faster. Prior to Torts they have been one of the slowest playing teams for years.

The Flyers problem is a lack of elite talent. End of story. And to my original point is the main issue with Torts. He’s gets more out of his teams, BECAUSE HE’S A GOOD COACH, and that has cost the Flyers a better draft position.

Let’s all just hope Briere has some trick up his sleeve and can acquire elite talent in some way none of the rest of us can see right now.
- Schmojo

this is false

You blow off Vancouver as isolated then in an attempt to compare him to Laviolette, bring up isolated incidents. If you think Tortorella and Laviolette are alike, then you know nothing about Laviolette. His systems, style of play and philosophies.

I'd love to see you document how Laviolette is responsible for the signing of Bobrovsky and the trades of Carter and Richards.

Tortorella is incredibly overrated and the idea that he gets more out of his teams, is a myth. Since he won the Cup in 2004, he has been past the 2nd round of the playoffs once. In 17 seasons as an NHL coach. He is overrated. Good at coaching defensive hockey, installing structure. That is the extent of his coaching bullets. He is essentially a high price interim coach. Then you add in his poor game strategy, player deployment, his schizophrenia on seeking confrontation and poor handling of young players. The Flyers are screwed as long as he is around.
- MJL

do you have any facts or documentation to make that up? are you privileged to his medical file? or you just playing doctor cliff?