Apparently he did sign yesterday. To avoid any drama from him I bet he makes the team next season. Impact is harder to judge.
- FlyersGrace

https://theathletic.com/5...-gauthier-contract-ducks/

Plays this week, burns first year of contract with 1 game played.

For the sake of discussion (and no, I don’t want this to happen)

But rather than resigning TK and instead of trading him for assets…

Is there a hockey trade to be made where we sign and trade TK for an equally talented Center?

Of course I prefer we get the assets and plan ahead for MM. but who knows what this team might do. So the question remains, what team might need an upgrade on wing and a surplus of good centers at the level of TK?

If he goes UFA (which he probably will) it'll probably have nothing to do with the Flyers (or the Canes).

It'll be because he's already got another destination in mind.
- Tomahawk

Anaheim..wants to play with Gauthier...lol

For the sake of discussion (and no, I don’t want this to happen)

But rather than resigning TK and instead of trading him for assets…

Is there a hockey trade to be made where we sign and trade TK for an equally talented Center?

Of course I prefer we get the assets and plan ahead for MM. but who knows what this team might do. So the question remains, who do you see that center being?
- anti-lame

Yes Detroit has Danielson, and I think TK would be a perfect fit for the Wings.

Jonesy the GREAT GASLIGHTER was on Gargano this morning

"JORTS is absolutely the right coach at the the right time for this team"
- THE BLACK HAND

Which is absolutely the worst thing a fan could hear.

Yes Detroit has Danielson, and I think TK would be a perfect fit for the Wings.
- TheFreak

I also believe TK is a great fit for Detroit, but I don't see Danielson as enough and I don't see him cracking the lineup for at least another year or two.

I am interested in the trajectory of McDonald. AHL lifer or LHD 3rd pair Dman at the NHL with size.
- Trox88

Top pairing, shutdown dman. Physical, can carry a hockey stick. Future hall of famer.

Just ask Jones.

Apparently he did sign yesterday. To avoid any drama from him I bet he makes the team next season. Impact is harder to judge.
- FlyersGrace

The kids got some growing up to do. He says the other locker room will be crying after the game in the NHL, he’s likely gonna have to pry his teeth out of boards.

Gut feeling for the offseason:

1) Big (over) signing of a UFA?
2) Big trade involving multiple players/assets?
3) Business as usual, some minor signings, but basically same team?
- Glak18

Probably 3. They'll definitely try to improve the PP. Maybe a goalie. I can't see them doing anything BIG but they'll be some tweeks.

Depending on how the Flyers season ends I can absolutely see them making moves and signing players to take a “step forward.” They won’t take a step back. TK 8 year extension incoming. No Laughton trade unless significant overpay.

I’m thinking at least a D man is brought in.
- StepfordSam

Better f@cking not

Sanheim
York
Drysdale
Zamula
Ginning
Attard
Ristolainen

That's enough. If they try another Staal/Johnson type I'm gonna lose my sh!t.

I also believe TK is a great fit for Detroit, but I don't see Danielson as enough and I don't see him cracking the lineup for at least another year or two.
- Glak18

I would think that Danielson and TK would be the basis for the trade, but additions and tweeks would need to happen.
1-2 years would be great timing for Michkov, no?

Option 2. UFA market is slim pickings. First time in years the cap has gone up. Doubt teams like OTT and BUF stand pat. EDM fails to win the Cup, what do they do? Draisaitl UFA next summer. CAR has been close for years. Plenty of fringe playoff teama like the Flyers, STL and DET looking to improve. Basically, I see a lot of teams willing to make deals for various reasons.
- Trox88

Draisaitl to the Islanders for Dobson...

Depending on how the Flyers season ends I can absolutely see them making moves and signing players to take a “step forward.” They won’t take a step back. TK 8 year extension incoming. No Laughton trade unless significant overpay.

I’m thinking at least a D man is brought in.
- StepfordSam

Could totally see them going after Walker again or Pesce. And buying out 2 or 3 guys to create the space to do so.

Draisaitl to the Islanders for Dobson...
- TheFreak

That's interesting, figure Draisaitl will get 15+ million/yr. The problem EDM has if they do not extend Draisaitl, does that upset McDavid who is a UFA in 2 summers? I expect a lot of trades league wide this summer because of the cap rising.

Better f@cking not

Sanheim
York
Drysdale
Zamula
Ginning
Attard
Ristolainen

That's enough. If they try another Staal/Johnson type I'm gonna lose my sh!t.
- Pelle31Forever

Ginning is supposedly going back to Europe. Risto is on Ellis Island.

Andrea is a midget, and with York and Drysdale, maybe to many small guys on defense at the same time.

Zamula is RFA with arbitration rights...will he be resigned?

Too many questions right now.

Could totally see them going after Walker again or Pesce. And buying out 2 or 3 guys to create the space to do so.
- TobyFlenderson

Could they try and trade Sanheim again this summer? Argument could be made his trade value is much higher then last summer. Did he become untouchable after 1 season? His NTC is an obstacle, but would he say "no" to a contender after the Flyers tried to trade him last summer. I do believe he stays, but will not be shocked if he is traded

Better f@cking not

Sanheim
York
Drysdale
Zamula
Ginning
Attard
Ristolainen

That's enough. If they try another Staal/Johnson type I'm gonna lose my sh!t.
- Pelle31Forever

you really see them going into camp with that group?

Hopefully CC pulls for his country club buddies TK and Laughton. Then again Boucher would be part of the return.

That's interesting, figure Draisaitl will get 15+ million/yr. The problem EDM has if they do not extend Draisaitl, does that upset McDavid who is a UFA in 2 summers? I expect a lot of trades league wide this summer because of the cap rising.
- Trox88

Dobson has 70 points in 79 games, a +12....McDavid is a smart hockey guy, and can see the issues Toronto has, and I think would value winning a Stanley Cup over Draisaitl.

Edmonton can't have $30M plus spent on 2 guys. That's insane. Add the #1 dman, add a nice top 6 winger all for the same money. More depth, and really, you would probably be adding more points to the game having Dobson and a top 6 winger.

Could totally see them going after Walker again or Pesce. And buying out 2 or 3 guys to create the space to do so.
- TobyFlenderson

If there’s one thing I’ve learned about this team is they are not hesitant to move on from a mistake regardless of how it impacts them financially (see; Bryz)

For the sake of discussion (and no, I don’t want this to happen)

But rather than resigning TK and instead of trading him for assets…

Is there a hockey trade to be made where we sign and trade TK for an equally talented Center?

Of course I prefer we get the assets and plan ahead for MM. but who knows what this team might do. So the question remains, what team might need an upgrade on wing and a surplus of good centers at the level of TK?
- anti-lame

Dylan Strome.

Gut feeling for the offseason:

1) Big (over) signing of a UFA?
2) Big trade involving multiple players/assets?
3) Business as usual, some minor signings, but basically same team?
- Glak18

You can never rule out 2, but 1 is very unlikely. If a big deal takes place, it'll probably be at or right before the draft. Number 3 is by far the most likely.

Much depends on what happens with buyouts. The Flyers will already be carrying $5.2 million against the cap for the Hayes trade (until 2026, thanks Cuck) and TDA buyout (done after 2024-25 season). There are three obvious buyout candidates in Atkinson, Petersen and Johansen. If the Flyers are truly rebuilding, they should buy out all three at a cost of roughly $5 million against the cap for the next two seasons.

Actual combined cap hits for buying out all three are:
2024-25: $4.7 million
2025-26: $5.1 million

So that's $10 million (with Hayes and TDA) in dead cap for 2024-25 and about $9 million (-TDA) for 2025-26. If Johansen's mystery injury persists, stash him on LTIR for the duration a la Ryan Ellis and those numbers improve a little. Yes, it means absorbing dead cap over the following two seasons. But it also leaves the Flyers with no dead cap costs when the current/future crop of recent draftees are starting to enter the lineup, Michkov arrives and Foerster/Cates/Frost/York sign their next deals (all RFA after the 2024-25 season).

There are some intriguing under-30 UFA possibilities in 2025 (Marner, Draisaitl, Rantanen) and 2026 (McDavid, Eichel, Kaprizov). Obviously most of those guys will be re-signed, but how many $10+ million/year contracts are Toronto, Edmonton and Colorado going to absorb, particularly if they don't succeed in the playoffs? In any scenario, why would McDavid and Draisaitl settle for anythng less than a max contract that will probably be north of $18 million/year by the time they are UFAs?

Ideally the Flyers would be in a clean position cap-wise to invest in the #1 center or D-man (or even goaltender, if that turns out to be the case) that doesn't currently exist in their system. But knowing the Flyers, they won't be able to resist overpaying a few mid-level UFAs and muddy this scenario. I expect Konecny will be re-signed to a big deal and Laughton will only go as part of a 'hockey' trade.

You can never rule out 2, but 1 is very unlikely. If a big deal takes place, it'll probably be at or right before the draft. Number 3 is by far the most likely.

Much depends on what happens with buyouts. The Flyers will already be carrying $5.2 million against the cap for the Hayes trade (until 2026, thanks Cuck) and TDA buyout (done after 2024-25 season). There are three obvious buyout candidates in Atkinson, Petersen and Johansen. If the Flyers are truly rebuilding, they should buy out all three at a cost of roughly $5 million against the cap for the next two seasons.

Actual combined cap hits for buying out all three are:
2024-25: $4.7 million
2025-26: $5.1 million

So that's $10 million (with Hayes and TDA) in dead cap for 2024-25 and about $9 million (-TDA) for 2025-26. If Johansen's mystery injury persists, stash him on LTIR for the duration a la Ryan Ellis and those numbers improve a little. Yes, it means absorbing dead cap over the following two seasons. But it also leaves the Flyers with no dead cap costs when the current/future crop of recent draftees are starting to enter the lineup, Michkov arrives and Foerster/Cates/Frost/York sign their next deals (all RFA after the 2024-25 season).

There are some intriguing under-30 UFA possibilities in 2025 (Marner, Draisaitl, Rantanen) and 2026 (McDavid, Eichel, Kaprizov). Obviously most of those guys will be re-signed, but how many $10+ million/year contracts are Toronto, Edmonton and Colorado going to absorb, particularly if they don't succeed in the playoffs? In any scenario, why would McDavid and Draisaitl settle for anythng less than a max contract that will probably be north of $18 million/year by the time they are UFAs?

Ideally the Flyers would be in a clean position cap-wise to invest in the #1 center or D-man (or even goaltender, if that turns out to be the case) that doesn't currently exist in their system. But knowing the Flyers, they won't be able to resist overpaying a few mid-level UFAs and muddy this scenario. I expect Konecny will be re-signed to a big deal and Laughton will only go as part of a 'hockey' trade.
- Pelle Schultz

if they are rebuilding no need to buy out.

also do not see any top end Free agent coming here unless a massive overpay

https://theathletic.com/5...-gauthier-contract-ducks/

Plays this week, burns first year of contract with 1 game played.
- TheFreak

It’s a joke! I would never do it as a GM. Kid will be good next year playing with Karlsson but IMO no where near the impact Smith will have on San Jose.

For the sake of discussion (and no, I don’t want this to happen)

But rather than resigning TK and instead of trading him for assets…

Is there a hockey trade to be made where we sign and trade TK for an equally talented Center?

Of course I prefer we get the assets and plan ahead for MM. but who knows what this team might do. So the question remains, what team might need an upgrade on wing and a surplus of good centers at the level of TK?
- anti-lame

I would love to believe there is but the reality is no team will trade what the Flyers need which is a true 1C for a winger, especially one that is all around a very good player but not elite.

It’s a joke! I would never do it as a GM. Kid will be good next year playing with Karlsson but IMO no where near the impact Smith will have on San Jose.
- jd250

all gm's do it. thats life