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bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 11 @ 8:53 PM ET
He kicked Quick in the head.
- Tomahawk


He got called for unsportsmanlike conduct for diving.
TEAGLE
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 11 @ 8:55 PM ET
These joffs can’t even lose right. Screwing up yet another draft
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 11 @ 8:57 PM ET
He got called for unsportsmanlike conduct for diving.
- bird_dog_pa


Is that what the ref said or what the Flyers broadcast said?

Because the official boxscore reads:

Garnet Hathaway Unsportsmanlike conduct against Jonathan Quick
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 11 @ 9:00 PM ET
Understand, but the odds of success have to be higher at 2nd overall. I get the O"Brien pick being a miss, but that was at least around 20 overall. No doubt they need more talent and it won't be attained thru free agency this summer. I expect trades.
- Trox88


I've racked my brain going through other teams making a list of players that would fit what the Flyers need (24 and under, high chance of elite production).

1) There's really not as many as some may think
2) Most are unattainable, even with a massive package and overpaying
3) The ones that may be available still have a high chance of not developing under the Flyers

The best target I could find is probably Zegras. He has a lot of skill, but I'm not sold he is more than just a 60 point player with maybe a career year in him. Then factor is the assets the Flyers would have to give and of course he would be absolute perfect for the Flyers because he falls in the category of "Injuries and concerns".
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 11 @ 9:05 PM ET
Is that what the ref said or what the Flyers broadcast said?

Because the official boxscore reads:

- Tomahawk


I’m going by broadcast to be honest.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Apr 11 @ 9:05 PM ET
Oh so NOW the team decided to show up🀨
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 11 @ 9:06 PM ET
I’m going by broadcast to be honest.
- bird_dog_pa


Let me guess, JJ was incensed about the call?

(I'm watching the Rangers feed to avoid JJ lol)
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Apr 11 @ 9:11 PM ET
I've racked my brain going through other teams making a list of players that would fit what the Flyers need (24 and under, high chance of elite production).

1) There's really not as many as some may think
2) Most are unattainable, even with a massive package and overpaying
3) The ones that may be available still have a high chance of not developing under the Flyers

The best target I could find is probably Zegras. He has a lot of skill, but I'm not sold he is more than just a 60 point player with maybe a career year in him. Then factor is the assets the Flyers would have to give and of course he would be absolute perfect for the Flyers because he falls in the category of "Injuries and concerns".

- Glak18


I do believe it is more likely Briere tries to trade for an underachieving 1st rdr like Tippett from FLA. Zegras fits that description, but his cap hit might scare off teams- frankly he has been awful this season. Josh Norris from OTT- even bigger cap hit, not good this season and coming off shoulder surgery- another example. Others have mentioned maybe the Jets might shake things up with Perfetti a possibiity.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Apr 11 @ 9:12 PM ET
Let me guess, JJ was incensed about the call?

(I'm watching the Rangers feed to avoid JJ lol)

- Tomahawk


Sam Rosen is such a great play by play broadcaster for decades.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Apr 11 @ 9:16 PM ET
Sam Rosen is such a great play by play broadcaster for decades.
- Trox88

🌹 πŸ’ 🏡 πŸ₯€
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Apr 11 @ 9:16 PM ET
good time to talk about the ball hockey program, boosh
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Apr 11 @ 9:20 PM ET
Where TF has THIS team been the past 2 weeks?!?

So annoying
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Apr 11 @ 9:20 PM ET
Taste of tasty πŸ˜‹ Cates!!!! Where was this team versus the trash πŸ—‘ teams
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Apr 11 @ 9:24 PM ET
Where TF has THIS team been the past 2 weeks?!?

So annoying

- Bob Habib


Yes indeed! They are more relaxed now that the games don't matter.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Apr 11 @ 9:24 PM ET
Let me guess, JJ was incensed about the call?

(I'm watching the Rangers feed to avoid JJ lol)

- Tomahawk


in regards to your previous post... ray whitney is a good example. as for crosby, fair example but he was fairly established at that point. I'm looking for more specifics like a 1-2 year player that had a grueling injury they were able to overcome. If we have a list of guys that applies to that would be encouraging. I'm more worried about him being another Nolan Patrick
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 11 @ 9:24 PM ET
I do believe it is more likely Briere tries to trade for an underachieving 1st rdr like Tippett from FLA. Zegras fits that description, but his cap hit might scare off teams- frankly he has been awful this season. Josh Norris from OTT- even bigger cap hit, not good this season and coming off shoulder surgery- another example. Others have mentioned maybe the Jets might shake things up with Perfetti a possibiity.
- Trox88


You gave some great examples of good players many teams would like, but not even close what the Flyers NEED. Flyers would be better off stripping off their depth of younger players and building a solid top 3 or 6.

Looking at just the forward group:
[?]-Frost-Tippett
Farabee-[?]-Foerster
[?]-[?]-Brink
[?]-[?]-[?]

Prospects
Michkov
Tuomaala
Desnoyers
Barkey

That's not a bad base, but add just one star/superstar that is consistent year after year and the dynamic changes drastically. If you add more of the same or pay a lot for a player that is inconsistent nothing changes.

I still think the Flyers are in a decent position with 4 1st rounders in the next 2 years and multiple 2nd rounders, but they have no choice and have to hit a gem somehow, someway.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 11 @ 9:26 PM ET
LOL I had no idea Atkinson was playing until that shift.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Apr 11 @ 9:26 PM ET
You gave some great examples of good players many teams would like, but not even close what the Flyers NEED. Flyers would be better off stripping off their depth of younger players and building a solid top 3 or 6.

Looking at just the forward group:

- Glak18[?]-Frost-Tippett
Farabee-[?]-Foerster
[?]-[?]-Brink
[?]-[?]-[?]

Prospects
Michkov
Tuomaala
Desnoyers
Barkey

That's not a bad base, but add just one star/superstar that is consistent year after year and the dynamic changes drastically. If you add more of the same or pay a lot for a player that is inconsistent nothing changes.

I still think the Flyers are in a decent position with 4 1st rounders in the next 2 years and multiple 2nd rounders, but they have no choice and have to hit a gem somehow, someway.


Bank on Bonk (tm)
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 11 @ 9:27 PM ET
You gave some great examples of good players many teams would like, but not even close what the Flyers NEED. Flyers would be better off stripping off their depth of younger players and building a solid top 3 or 6.

Looking at just the forward group:

- Glak18[?]-Frost-Tippett
Farabee-[?]-Foerster
[?]-[?]-Brink
[?]-[?]-[?]

Prospects
Michkov
Tuomaala
Desnoyers
Barkey

That's not a bad base, but add just one star/superstar that is consistent year after year and the dynamic changes drastically. If you add more of the same or pay a lot for a player that is inconsistent nothing changes.

I still think the Flyers are in a decent position with 4 1st rounders in the next 2 years and multiple 2nd rounders, but they have no choice and have to hit a gem somehow, someway.



Desnoyers fell off the cliff this season and I would love to know why.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Apr 11 @ 9:28 PM ET
completely unrelated but i cannot stop thinking about this joke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO2hEaVrPtI
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 11 @ 9:29 PM ET
A franchise cannot miss on #2 overall pick, they did. It set the franchise back, no doubt.
- Trox88

False narrative. They won lottery that year. Jumped from 13-2. Not like they were horrible at time
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM ET
in regards to your previous post... ray whitney is a good example. as for crosby, fair example but he was fairly established at that point. I'm looking for more specifics like a 1-2 year player that had a grueling injury they were able to overcome. If we have a list of guys that applies to that would be encouraging. I'm more worried about him being another Nolan Patrick
- anti-lame


Lindros blew his knee out early on. He was still an ok NHLer.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM ET
completely unrelated but i cannot stop thinking about this joke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO2hEaVrPtI

- anti-lame




The GOAT

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 11 @ 9:32 PM ET
Desnoyers fell off the cliff this season and I would love to know why.
- MBFlyerfan


I just listed prospects I felt could spend time in the NHL and more than just a yearly call up, other than Michkov I see the others as bottom 6 players.

I'm just worried the Flyers are going to be a stuck team like Montreal. Sure Suzuki, Caulifield and Slav could be good players, but if that is your cornerstone line for the future...you're in big trouble.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Apr 11 @ 9:32 PM ET
The GOAT
- MBFlyerfan


SHOT in the KNIFE


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