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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 10:33 PM ET
I added to my comment...please read and try to comprehend. Jesus, 3 against one and I'm still embarrassing you all. What a triplet of gonads!! LMFAO!!
- Phillywhiteout


You're displaying the same lack of awareness and sense that you showed when you tried to troll the Pens blog. Smilies and all.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 8 @ 10:36 PM ET
You're displaying the same lack of awareness and sense that you showed when you tried to troll the Pens blog. Smilies and all.
- MJL
Yeah, I get it. Everyone suffers from lack of awareness and sense of anything cause they had the audacity to make God almighty look silly on what he thinks is his own website. I'm gonna tell Torts where you live and he's gonna beat your ass!
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 8 @ 11:43 PM ET
Oh look, the other turd just came out from underneath his rock. Oh, and Tippett will be a 40 goal scorer in this league. You can take that to the bank git breath.
- Phillywhiteout

I think Tippett is a nice player and definitely a guy you can win with, but proclaiming him a 40 goal guy is (frank)ing BOLD
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Apr 8 @ 11:55 PM ET
You sure seem to fantasize about other dudes on this site a lot. Do you have a doghouse?
- TobyFlenderson


Are you a professor of logic?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 9 @ 12:38 AM ET
I think Tippett is a nice player and definitely a guy you can win with, but proclaiming him a 40 goal guy is (frank)ing BOLD
- stayinthefnnet
He has 28 goals in 74 games. Projects out to 30 or so. Why is 40 such a stretch? This team doesn't have anywhere close to a true #1 center at this point and with Coots fading I don't think they have a true #2 center. Give this guy a true #1 center and he would get 40 if he plays the full 82 game schedule. He's already faster than Mackinnon.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 9 @ 2:22 AM ET
Are you a professor of logic?
- anti-lame

Universities have been doing their best to rub those out.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 9 @ 7:34 AM ET
Are you a professor of logic?
- anti-lame




Or a moth?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 9 @ 7:38 AM ET
He has 28 goals in 74 games. Projects out to 30 or so. Why is 40 such a stretch? This team doesn't have anywhere close to a true #1 center at this point and with Coots fading I don't think they have a true #2 center. Give this guy a true #1 center and he would get 40 if he plays the full 82 game schedule. He's already faster than Mackinnon.

- Phillywhiteout


First of all, on average, he is not faster than McKinnon. Tippett has a slightly higher top recorded speed than McKinnon but game to game and shift to shift, he's not faster than McKinnon. That's neither here nor there though because Tippett is certainly an elite skater.
If Tippett played with an elite center such as McKinnon or McDavid, then sure they could probably elevate his goal scoring.
However on his own merits, Tippett has strengths and weaknesses and they show what he would have to develop and get better at to become a 40 goal scorer. His strengths are his speed down the wing and he has a strong shot. He is able to beat defenders one on one and beat goaltenders. Most of his goal scoring is done in that manner. His weaknesses are he does not possess a strong ability to play off of linemates. To jump into holes and find soft spots in the defense. He does not possess a strong one timer to score more on the PP. He doesn't get to the dirty areas of the ice to score on goal mouth plays and rebounds. These are all elements that he needs to add to his game if he wants to become a 40 goal scorer. He is a long way from that.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 9 @ 7:46 AM ET
I think Tippett is a nice player and definitely a guy you can win with, but proclaiming him a 40 goal guy is (frank)ing BOLD
- stayinthefnnet


Until he does it….he’s not. I agree somewhat that he is somewhat hampered by the Flyers C situation or lack there of. I believe he has the tools, but as others have stated there are some things he can improve on. I think this year he’s taken some more steps, but there’s more room to grow.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 9 @ 7:56 AM ET
Yeah you’re crazy to call Tippett a 40 goal guy but Hyman is a 50 goal guy. There’s s bit more that goes into it
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 9 @ 7:57 AM ET
LOL, Tippett is a long way away from scoring 40 goals in this league. He has a lot of improvement to get to that level. Maybe he should score 30 first.
- MJL

The Flyers had a more effective PP with Tippet as a shooter, he would get 40 goals. Right now Tippet has only 5 PP goals out of 28 goals. Double his PP output and Tippet is a 40 goal scorer.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 9 @ 8:00 AM ET
The Flyers had a more effective PP with Tippet as a shooter, he would get 40 goals. Right now Tippet has only 5 PP goals out of 28 goals. Double his PP output and Tippet is a 40 goal scorer.
- jd250


Tippett is part of not having an effective PP. He has to develop the skills to be a better player on the PP. He is part of the problem. You also have a math issue. He has 28 goals and 5 PP goals. If he doubled his PP goal output, that would give him 5 more goals. 28 plus 5 is 33.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 9 @ 8:01 AM ET
Until he does it….he’s not. I agree somewhat that he is somewhat hampered by the Flyers C situation or lack there of. I believe he has the tools, but as others have stated there are some things he can improve on. I think this year he’s taken some more steps, but there’s more room to grow.
- landros 2

Definitely he has more room to grow. I can live with the defensive liabilities but I would like to see be more consistent driving offense game to game. It seems like Tippet can disappear for a few games from time to time.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 9 @ 8:03 AM ET
Tippett is part of not having an effective PP. He has to develop the skills to be a better player on the PP. He is part of the problem. You also have a math issue. He has 28 goals and 5 PP goals. If he doubled his PP goal output, that would give him 5 more goals. 28 plus 5 is 33.
- MJL
Actually, that 28 goals would be projected out to a 30 or so, so that would be 35-36 goals. If this team had a puck carrier and a true PP QB it would be better. This is where they miss a guy like Voracek. I tend to agree that Tippett could be better on the PP, but I think you could put Lemieux and Gretzky on this PP and it would somehow suck.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 9 @ 8:08 AM ET
Tippett is part of not having an effective PP. He has to develop the skills to be a better player on the PP. He is part of the problem. You also have a math issue. He has 28 goals and 5 PP goals. If he doubled his PP goal output, that would give him 5 more goals. 28 plus 5 is 33.
- MJL

Yes, 23 ES and 5 PP. Tippet will hit 30 before the season is over. My point is Tippet has more ceiling to reach and add to this a more effective PP, and he will be a 40 goal scorer.

I have been thinking a lot about the Flyers PP and have come around to believing the best next steps for them are 1. either replace Rocky Thompson or bring in another coach to work exclusively on the PP and 2. bring in a shooting coach to teach Tippet, Foerster and others on the team how to 1 time a shot with accuracy (Russ Cohen has mentioned this several times throughout the year). The Flyers may not have elite talent, but they have enough talent right now to be at least average, and an average PP would have fixed a lot of issues this season and had the Flyers firmly in a playoff spot.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 9 @ 8:11 AM ET
Yeah you’re crazy to call Tippett a 40 goal guy but Hyman is a 50 goal guy. There’s s bit more that goes into it
- Just5
This is my point. If Hyman is a 50 goal guy with McDavid I think Tippett would easily be a 40 goal guy with a premier center...hell, just a top end #1 center. With McDavid Tippett could be a 50 goal guy easily.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 9 @ 8:14 AM ET
Definitely he has more room to grow. I can live with the defensive liabilities but I would like to see be more consistent driving offense game to game. It seems like Tippet can disappear for a few games from time to time.
- jd250


I think his defensive game has improved…if even by a little. I also think it’s tough to drive the play from the wing with average C’s. I still see enough to suggest he will continue to get better. Consistency to his game is what’s keeping him from being a 40 G 35 A guy.
I do laugh when some suggest the Flyers have no shooters for the PP…Both Tippet and Foerster can shoot the puck with the best of them. It’s obvious they need to do a better job with their structure to get these guys some looks.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 9 @ 8:14 AM ET
Yes, 23 ES and 5 PP. Tippet will hit 30 before the season is over. My point is Tippet has more ceiling to reach and add to this a more effective PP, and he will be a 40 goal scorer.

I have been thinking a lot about the Flyers PP and have come around to believing the best next steps for them are 1. either replace Rocky Thompson or bring in another coach to work exclusively on the PP and 2. bring in a shooting coach to teach Tippet, Foerster and others on the team how to 1 time a shot with accuracy (Russ Cohen has mentioned this several times throughout the year). The Flyers may not have elite talent, but they have enough talent right now to be at least average, and an average PP would have fixed a lot of issues this season and had the Flyers firmly in a playoff spot.

- jd250
The two main issues that is keeping this team from the playoffs and Torts from the Jack Adams is their dreadful PP and then the day that Hart left the organization. That goalie tandem was working out well, but it became quite obvious that Ersson could not handle being the MAN in goal. An average PP and Hart still being here, and this team is easily in a playoff spot.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 9 @ 8:23 AM ET
Actually, that 28 goals would be projected out to a 30 or so, so that would be 35-36 goals. If this team had a puck carrier and a true PP QB it would be better. This is where they miss a guy like Voracek. I tend to agree that Tippett could be better on the PP, but I think you could put Lemieux and Gretzky on this PP and it would somehow suck.
- Phillywhiteout

I just think this team looks lost on the PP. They just pass the puck around the perimeter and don't generate enough high danger chances. To me it starts with puck possession and zone entries. Without Couturier, the Flyers really don't have a reliable center to win that initial o-zone faceoff and gain possession. Frost has been better of late but overall is still not good enough. Couts is still the best Flyer's faceoff guy, and we all know how his season has gone. So now the Flyers are chasing the puck down the ice and need to regroup and re-enter the zone. This is where the zone entries come into play. At the start of this season the Flyers were awful. Then they improved and now they are awful again. As a result, either the Flyers don't get much zone time on the PP or if they get a good zone entry, half the the PP is already gone. Now is where the lack of structure and lack of clear roles on the PP come into play and voila, you have the worst PP in the league.

I'll say it again, there are really only a few ways to score on the PP: quick shots from the point with moving traffic in front or 1 timers from either side of the slot fed from the half-wall, top, or from below the goal line. How you attack each PK will change from game to game, but having a set of plays to choose from, executed by the right players in the right roles, is how you get a good PP. From what I see the Flyers don't have clear roles for their players and they don't have set plays. The Flyers can't just wing it out there since they don't have elite skill.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 9 @ 8:26 AM ET
The two main issues that is keeping this team from the playoffs and Torts from the Jack Adams is their dreadful PP and then the day that Hart left the organization. That goalie tandem was working out well, but it became quite obvious that Ersson could not handle being the MAN in goal. An average PP and Hart still being here, and this team is easily in a playoff spot.
- Phillywhiteout



You are what your record says you are. It’s like when guys argue using sample size. It’s not a legit argument when 90 % of the guys playing are somewhat inconsistent in their offensive game.
Torts pretty much said what everyone knew. The Flyers were fully aware Hart’s issue was going to create an absence.
DB’s answer was Cal Peterson all though we now know why they Flyers did everything they could to get Fedotov here quite a while ago. Also why they spent so much of their draft capital on the search for a future in the net.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 9 @ 8:28 AM ET
The two main issues that is keeping this team from the playoffs and Torts from the Jack Adams is their dreadful PP and then the day that Hart left the organization. That goalie tandem was working out well, but it became quite obvious that Ersson could not handle being the MAN in goal. An average PP and Hart still being here, and this team is easily in a playoff spot.
- Phillywhiteout

Yes, I agree. The Flyers have had a dreadful PP for years now, the last time they even had a league average PP was the 2019-2020 season. And you know how I felt about Carter Hart. Now the Flyers are back to uncertainty in net Maybe Kolosof or Fedotov are the answer, but the Flyers can't rush these guys. They need to adapt to the NHL game, and it will take some time. I'm not giving up on Ersson, but it's looking so far like he can't handle being a #1.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 9 @ 8:30 AM ET
You are what your record says you are. It’s like when guys argue using sample size. It’s not a legit argument when 90 % of the guys playing are somewhat inconsistent in their offensive game.
Torts pretty much said what everyone knew. The Flyers were fully aware Hart’s issue was going to create an absence.
DB’s answer was Cal Peterson all though we now know why they Flyers did everything they could to get Fedotov here quite a while ago. Also why they spent so much of their draft capital on the search for a future in the net.

- landros 2

The only person I blame is Hart! What an idiot to even put himself anywhere near that situation.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 9 @ 8:30 AM ET
You are what your record says you are. It’s like when guys argue using sample size. It’s not a legit argument when 90 % of the guys playing are somewhat inconsistent in their offensive game.
Torts pretty much said what everyone knew. The Flyers were fully aware Hart’s issue was going to create an absence.
DB’s answer was Cal Peterson all though we now know why they Flyers did everything they could to get Fedotov here quite a while ago. Also why they spent so much of their draft capital on the search for a future in the net.

- landros 2
I actually don't really fault DB with the Petersen thing. I mean, he was a good NHL goalie at one time and DB rolled the dice and lost. It was probably worth a try...it just failed miserably.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 9 @ 8:33 AM ET
The Flyers had a more effective PP with Tippet as a shooter, he would get 40 goals. Right now Tippet has only 5 PP goals out of 28 goals. Double his PP output and Tippet is a 40 goal scorer.
- jd250


5 x 2 = 10
28 - 5 = 23
23 + 10 = 40????
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 9 @ 8:34 AM ET
Yes, I agree. The Flyers have had a dreadful PP for years now, the last time they even had a league average PP was the 2019-2020 season. And you know how I felt about Carter Hart. Now the Flyers are back to uncertainty in net Maybe Kolosof or Fedotov are the answer, but the Flyers can't rush these guys. They need to adapt to the NHL game, and it will take some time. I'm not giving up on Ersson, but it's looking so far like he can't handle being a #1.
- jd250


I think they know they kind of ran Ersson into the ground this year. Torts is going out of his way to pump the kids tires in the last few days because to me they know they’ve done the kid a disservice by not providing a reliable alternative.
Some goalies can handle a big work load…Ersson doesn’t look like he can, at least not yet.
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