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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 5:42 PM ET
The Flyers are not a team with a true 1C or 1D for that matter. And Nathan McKinnon is not walking through that door either. I believe the Flyers played the way they had to play given the talent they have to compete. Now where I disagree with Torts the most besides his OT approach and the PP, is his use of veterans like Johnson and Staal post trade deadline. Sink or swim I would have like to see Torts play the kids as much as possible here so they can properly evaluate what they have going into the off-season.
- jd250



You were told by numerous people that this was going to happen. You bought into the Kool aid
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 8 @ 5:42 PM ET
It wasn't a reality this year and it was never at any point this year. Pure fantasy. Now your starting to hedge your bets. Slowly but surely.
- MJL

this is false and pure fantasy. he was 100% a COY candidate. to say otherwise is wrong cliff. no matter how many times you say it.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 8 @ 5:44 PM ET
It wasn't a reality this year and it was never at any point this year. Pure fantasy. Now your starting to hedge your bets. Slowly but surely.
- MJL
Says the guy that said the Flyers were absolutely gonna make the playoffs! Eh what?? Ooooops...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 5:45 PM ET
Torts teams are in shape by the end of training camp. EVERY SINGLE TEAM does bag skates in training camp and throughout the season. Torts makes it clear to all his players what to expect come training camp and the players are expected to come to camp in shape. Again, not an unreasonable request of a professional athlete. The Flyers have had good starts under Torts primarily because they come into the start of the season in shape and ready to play. This is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing.
- jd250


Tortorella's over reliance on physical fitness and relying on intensity out of the gate to gain an early advantage has it's positives and negatives. We're seeing the negative currently.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 8 @ 5:46 PM ET
Says the guy that said the Flyers were absolutely gonna make the playoffs! Eh what?? Ooooops...
- Phillywhiteout

Says the guy that said Owen Tippett is like Natahan MacKinnon
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 5:46 PM ET
But we all admit and agree that the Flyers don't have top end talent. Therefore they must expend more energy to win games compared to teams with top end players. Why is this a surprise to anyone?
- jd250



LOL, it's not a surprise to everyone. It is to you though.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 5:48 PM ET
It's not a contradiction ... just because the Flyers have to expend more energy does not mean they are gassed. I have not seen signs that the Flyers are gassed. Banged up? Sure. Unlucky? Sure. But besides the Columbus game, the Flyers have been in all these games and in some cases dominated the game like in Buffalo. A gassed team cannot dominate games like that.
- jd250


If you don't recognize that the Flyers are gassed. You either have blinders on or have no clue what you're looking at? Which is it?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 8 @ 5:49 PM ET
Says the guy that said Owen Tippett is like Natahan MacKinnon
- THE BLACK HAND
Adults are having a conversation here. Why don't you go to your sandbox and play with your Tonka toys? You have the wit and personality of a fried ham sandwich. I'm gonna start referring to you as the gnat. Cause you are like one of those bothersome little gnats that keep flying around until I swat it to the ground.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 8 @ 5:50 PM ET
Adults are having a conversation here. Why don't you go to your sandbox and play with your Tonka toys? You have the wit and personality of a fried ham sandwich. I'm gonna start referring to you as the gnat. Cause you are like one of those bothersome little gnats that keep flying around until I swat it to the ground.
- Phillywhiteout

be my guest, pig
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 8 @ 5:50 PM ET
be my guest, pig
- THE BLACK HAND
Will do...GNAT!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 5:51 PM ET
Says the guy that said the Flyers were absolutely gonna make the playoffs! Eh what?? Ooooops...
- Phillywhiteout


LOL. I did say that I believed that the Flyers were going to make the playoffs. I was not expecting them to lose 6 games in a row. We're you?

I've been telling you in direct response for months that Tortorella had no shot at winning the Jack Adams.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 5:52 PM ET
Adults are having a conversation here. Why don't you go to your sandbox and play with your Tonka toys? You have the wit and personality of a fried ham sandwich. I'm gonna start referring to you as the gnat. Cause you are like one of those bothersome little gnats that keep flying around until I swat it to the ground.
- Phillywhiteout


I have news for you. Adults don't respond to a post with dozens of smilies.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 8 @ 5:54 PM ET
I have news for you. Adults don't respond to a post with dozens of smilies.
- MJL
Yes they do! When they are conversating with a little bratty child they most certainly do!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 8 @ 5:55 PM ET
LOL. I did say that I believed that the Flyers were going to make the playoffs. I was not expecting them to lose 6 games in a row. We're you?

I've been telling you in direct response for months that Tortorella had no shot at winning the Jack Adams.

- MJL
I was not expecting them to lose 7 in a row, but I never believed that they were a cinch to make the playoffs like you did. Torts was a close second behind Tocchet before this collapse ensued.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 8 @ 6:12 PM ET
MoneyPuck gives the Flyers a 0.2% chance to win the Cup this year.

And a 0.4% chance to end up with the 1st-overall pick.

What a time to be a fan.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 8 @ 6:13 PM ET
MoneyPuck gives the Flyers a 0.2% chance to win the Cup this year.

And a 0.4% chance to end up with the 1st-overall pick.

What a time to be a fan.

- Tomahawk


Got us right where they want us 🤣
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Apr 8 @ 6:30 PM ET
MoneyPuck gives the Flyers a 0.2% chance to win the Cup this year.

And a 0.4% chance to end up with the 1st-overall pick.

What a time to be a fan.

- Tomahawk


Oooooffff!

Dude, seriously. Way to bring down such a positive room.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Apr 8 @ 6:36 PM ET
Oooooffff!

Dude, seriously. Way to bring down such a positive room.

- mikeyo27


Now that is funny!! 😂
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Apr 8 @ 6:37 PM ET
That's certainly your right but the players quitting doesn't make sense on any level.
- MJL

Neither you nor I operate on factual information. So, technically, both of us just have different theories.
szandor
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Charlotte, NC
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 8 @ 6:37 PM ET
The fall was inevitable, I just expected it around January. You can only exceed expectations for so long.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Apr 8 @ 6:41 PM ET
MoneyPuck gives the Flyers a 0.2% chance to win the Cup this year.

And a 0.4% chance to end up with the 1st-overall pick.

What a time to be a fan.

- Tomahawk



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 6:49 PM ET
Yes they do! When they are conversating with a little bratty child they most certainly do!

- Phillywhiteout


You only used one. This is progress.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 6:50 PM ET
I was not expecting them to lose 7 in a row, but I never believed that they were a cinch to make the playoffs like you did. Torts was a close second behind Tocchet before this collapse ensued.
- Phillywhiteout


No, he was never a close second. He was never realistically in the hunt for the Jack Adams. The Flyers were hovering around .500 for most of the season. You don't win the Jack Adams for that. I told you this months ago.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 6:52 PM ET
MoneyPuck gives the Flyers a 0.2% chance to win the Cup this year.

And a 0.4% chance to end up with the 1st-overall pick.

What a time to be a fan.

- Tomahawk


Which puts the Flyers in their favorite position. Hockey purgatory.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 6:53 PM ET
Neither you nor I operate on factual information. So, technically, both of us just have different theories.
- missingmike


Well that's not completely true. I certainly used factual information to form my opinion. I won't speak for you. It's my opinion that saying that they quit doesn't make any sense. Opinion or theory. Call it whatever you like.
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