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Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 6 @ 10:30 AM ET
MJL said:



So NJD, Wash, Pitts, NYI can all finish better than they have played this year. If they play better, they will get more points.

So NJD get Markstrom this summer, they go on a tear to start next year with Hamilton back too. Carolina should be even better as they appear to have found their goalie, plus if they sign Guentzel. A full year of Roy in Long Island should improve the Islanders.

All these teams can finish in the high 90's to low 100's next year.

The Flyers can be better and finish low- mid 90's.

They are still behind those other teams, but have more points than this year.

Quite simple really.

- TheFreak
That's a lot of assumptions by you. I agree that the Devils will most likely be better next season and the Canes are good anyway, but I don't see any reason to believe that those other teams will be any better next year than this year. Pitt is just an aging roster that hasn't been good this year despite staying healthy. The Caps are a roster in flux and the Isles are stale. What is Roy? Has he ever proven himself to be a good coach?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 6 @ 10:32 AM ET
Going to be hilarious if Pitt gets in
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 6 @ 10:32 AM ET
Going to be hilarious if Pitt gets in
- ClaudeFather
Bite your tongue!! I think if they beat Tampon Bay today they are getting in cause Tampa has been beating everyone lately.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:33 AM ET
That's a lot of assumptions by you. I agree that the Devils will most likely be better next season and the Canes are good anyway, but I don't see any reason to believe that those other teams will be any better next year than this year.
- Phillywhiteout


You're so completely full of poop. You can make assumptions such as "My point that you refuse to see is that those goals prolly don't go in if the Sabres goalie was in the Flyers net." but if someone else makes an assumption. You call it out.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 6 @ 10:36 AM ET
You're so completely full of poop. You can make assumptions such as "My point that you refuse to see is that those goals prolly don't go in if the Sabres goalie was in the Flyers net." but if someone else makes an assumption. You call it out.
- MJL
My assumptions are valid. These are not. What is Roy going to do with a stale roster? The Pens are aging and are just gonna be a year older next year. The Caps are a roster in flux. They all could very well be in the same spot or worse next year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:38 AM ET
My assumptions are valid. These are not. What is Roy going to do with a stale roster? The Pens are aging and are just gonna be a year older next year. The Caps are a roster in flux. They all could very well be in the same spot or worse next year.
- Phillywhiteout


Just more proof of how full of poop you are.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
He really was...posted this on Flyers Nation last night and almost got banned.
- Phillywhiteout


Bunch of blind homers I guess. Some of the shoddiest rebound control I’ve ever seen. Seeler f bombed him for everyone to hear for his asinine decision to play the puck when Seeler had it on a platter. Doesn’t look like he’s fighting enough through screens. Looks rattled in traffic. Keep playing him but not good so far
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 6 @ 10:43 AM ET
Just more proof of how full of poop you are.

- MJL
More rhetoric from you. Am I right? Everything I stated there is the absolute truth, but you apparently can't handle the truth! Eh what?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 6 @ 10:47 AM ET
Bunch of blind homers I guess. Some of the shoddiest rebound control I’ve ever seen. Seeler f bombed him for everyone to hear for his asinine decision to play the puck when Seeler had it on a platter. Doesn’t look like he’s fighting enough through screens. Looks rattled in traffic. Keep playing him but not good so far
- Just5
Totally agree. I noticed that too about him really having trouble tracking the puck. He looked lost...like he would give up on tracking the puck with traffic in front and just hope that the puck hit him.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Apr 6 @ 10:47 AM ET
Bunch of blind homers I guess. Some of the shoddiest rebound control I’ve ever seen. Seeler f bombed him for everyone to hear for his asinine decision to play the puck when Seeler had it on a platter. Doesn’t look like he’s fighting enough through screens. Looks rattled in traffic. Keep playing him but not good so far
- Just5


It's going to be a learning curve for him. It's a shame the flyers have no real backup goalie they can count on.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 6 @ 10:47 AM ET
I disagree that he was terrible. The first goal was essentially a breakaway with a highly skilled player. Even the best of NHL goalies get beat on breakaways. The 2nd and 3rd goals were snipes from skilled players in the dead slot. Not impossible saves but not egregious either. Horrendous defense and really good hard, well positioned shots. The 4th goal, I have an issue with. He lost his technique and folded in his right leg losing his butterfly position and exposed the net on the rebound

You didn't answer the question. Do you know what a 2 way deal is?

- MJL

he wasnt...Buff's 2 & 3rd goals, the player came straight down the middle and picked the corner from between the circles. The broadcast showed a camera angle from the opposite end, essentially, the shooter's( Quinn) POV. Skilled NHL players hit that spot in their sleep given that postion
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Apr 6 @ 10:48 AM ET
That's a lot of assumptions by you. I agree that the Devils will most likely be better next season and the Canes are good anyway, but I don't see any reason to believe that those other teams will be any better next year than this year. Pitt is just an aging roster that hasn't been good this year despite staying healthy. The Caps are a roster in flux and the Isles are stale. What is Roy? Has he ever proven himself to be a good coach?
- Phillywhiteout



In my opinion, the Caps will push a bit for Ovi's goal scoring record...they have some cap space and mightmake a final push for Ovi to become the all time leading goal scorer.

Carolina is a great team that has actually under performed this year due to injuries and Anderson's blood clots.

Yes I believe Roy is a great coach. He did well in Colorado until he wanted to much power on team decisions. The Islanders seem to be playing a better game under him, and a proper summer and training camp with him and they should be improved. Sorokin has also shlt the bed lately. I have said many times, I wanted Roy as coach of the Flyers.

Most of these teams have under achieved this year, and the Flyers have over achieved.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:50 AM ET
More rhetoric from you. Am I right? Everything I stated there is the absolute truth, but you apparently can't handle the truth! Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout


Oh yeah! "My point that you refuse to see is that those goals prolly don't go in if the Sabres goalie was in the Flyers net." is the absolute truth. Factual and indisputable. LOL. Like I said earlier, you're gong full blown moron again today.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:51 AM ET
he wasnt...Buff's 2 & 3rd goals, the player came straight down the middle and picked the corner from between the circles. The broadcast showed a camera angle from the opposite end, essentially, the shooter's( Quinn) POV. Skilled NHL players hit that spot in their sleep given that postion
- THE BLACK HAND


Especially when give the time and space that the Flyers gave them. Not impossible to save but not bad goals either. The only bad goal was the 4th one.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 6 @ 10:52 AM ET
Totally agree. I noticed that too about him really having trouble tracking the puck. He looked lost...like he would give up on tracking the puck with traffic in front and just hope that the puck hit him.
- Phillywhiteout

if you said it or noticed it, it was because you read or heard someone else say it before you and you try to pass it off as your own
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 6 @ 10:55 AM ET
if you said it or noticed it, it was because you read or heard someone else say it before you and you try to pass it off as your own
- THE BLACK HAND
Right! Whatever you say.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 6 @ 10:55 AM ET
That's a lot of assumptions by you. I agree that the Devils will most likely be better next season and the Canes are good anyway, but I don't see any reason to believe that those other teams will be any better next year than this year. Pitt is just an aging roster that hasn't been good this year despite staying healthy. The Caps are a roster in flux and the Isles are stale. What is Roy? Has he ever proven himself to be a good coach?
- Phillywhiteout

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 6 @ 10:55 AM ET
That's a lot of assumptions by you. I agree that the Devils will most likely be better next season and the Canes are good anyway, but I don't see any reason to believe that those other teams will be any better next year than this year. Pitt is just an aging roster that hasn't been good this year despite staying healthy. The Caps are a roster in flux and the Isles are stale. What is Roy? Has he ever proven himself to be a good coach?
- Phillywhiteout


You just wait. A full year of the Bunting show coming your way next season haha
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 6 @ 10:56 AM ET
Especially when give the time and space that the Flyers gave them. Not impossible to save but not bad goals either. The only bad goal was the 4th one.
- MJL
They might as well had a shooter tutor in net. Yeah, if you pick the corner your gonna score. That's why you have a human goalie in net. He's supposed to have the agility and quickness to make those stops. They were from pretty far out, so stop the damn puck!!
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:57 AM ET
In my opinion, the Caps will push a bit for Ovi's goal scoring record...they have some cap space and mightmake a final push for Ovi to become the all time leading goal scorer.

Carolina is a great team that has actually under performed this year due to injuries and Anderson's blood clots.

Yes I believe Roy is a great coach. He did well in Colorado until he wanted to much power on team decisions. The Islanders seem to be playing a better game under him, and a proper summer and training camp with him and they should be improved. Sorokin has also shlt the bed lately. I have said many times, I wanted Roy as coach of the Flyers.

Most of these teams have under achieved this year, and the Flyers have over achieved.

- TheFreak


Ya had me until “I wanted Roy as coach of the Flyers”. I threw up
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:59 AM ET
They might as well had a shooter tutor in net. Yeah, if you pick the corner your gonna score. That's why you have a human goalie in net. He's supposed to have the agility and quickness to make those stops. They were from pretty far out, so stop the damn puck!!
- Phillywhiteout


They weren't from pretty far out. They were from the circles in the middle of the ice. In a very deadly area of the ice and they were well placed hard shots. They weren't bad goals. On one hand you say if you pick the corner you're going to score and then say he has to stop the dam puck. LOL
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 6 @ 10:59 AM ET
You just wait. A full year of the Bunting show coming your way next season haha
- stayinthefnnet
Ha ha, so you think Crosby is gonna make Bunting a superstar?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 6 @ 11:01 AM ET
They weren't from pretty far out. They were from the circles in the middle of the ice. In a very deadly area of the ice and they were well placed hard shots. They weren't bad goals. On one hand you say if you pick the corner you're going to score and then say he has to stop the dam puck. LOL
- MJL
Again, you missed my point. Read slower and try to understand more. I was referring to shooting on a shooter tutor which I have done (they were popular back in the day). If you pick the corner on a shooter tutor you are going to score. That dude reminded me of a shooter tutor as stiff as he looked in goal.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 6 @ 11:04 AM ET
What are you talking about? The Flyers are going to build around Tortorella's guys. Poehling, Laughton, Hathaway. Players with balls! Tortorella type players. That's a good start to any rebuilding team.

- MJL

And coots…. Absolutely a 1c. Absolutely you give extension. You absolutely BUILD AROUND. 6 more years to go
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 11:07 AM ET
Again, you missed my point. Read slower and try to understand more. I was referring to shooting on a shooter tutor which I have done (they were popular back in the day). If you pick the corner on a shooter tutor you are going to score. That dude reminded me of a shooter tutor as stiff as he looked in goal.
- Phillywhiteout


LOL I understood your idiotic point. You're just wrong. The highest percentage of goals are scored from the middle of the ice, especially on shots that pick corners. They were quality shots from high danger areas of the ice.
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