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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 1 @ 6:34 PM ET
Nope rather call it like it is…

Great start pre ASB
Big slump post ASB

I’ve posted both sets of stats before.

- Nighthawk

Ah so ignore evidence to point out things. Good stuff!
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 1 @ 6:41 PM ET
Why do the Petey can do no wrong crowd ignore the numbers? Get all defensive much or head in the sand?

Great start then Big slump.
Points & on the PP both.

All of the rest nobody questions.

- Nighthawk

I'll try to answer for 99% of us that understand what "criticism" means to us.

a) Pettersson is a NHL hockey player that plays for our favourite hockey team, he scores goals, gets assists, wins faceoffs, plays good defensive hockey. There are also times when he doesn't score goals, or get any assists, loses faceoffs and plays poor defensive hockey. These are always pointed out both good and bad, as is with all players and coaches, that is what the basis of hockey conversations are built upon.
b) Pettersson salary both present and future have been discussed, and as we all know his negotiated salary is based on everything in the above statement. Now, you nor I did not negotiate that salary with Pettersson, a real proven, experienced guy in the NHL negotiated Pettersson salary. There is absolutely nothing any of us can do or say that will change any of the salary that Pettersson will receive.
c) I do not have my head in the sand because Pettersson is in a slump and makes kazillions of dollars, so not really sure why you think we should all be spazzed and continually b!tch about Pettersson.
d) There is criticism and constructive criticism which can be good basis for hockey discussions. Then there is constant non stop criticism that will kill a hockey conversation, and it then is just plain old b!tching.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 1 @ 6:42 PM ET
Tell me which numbers I’m wrong about. Is he not top 15 in points and defensive metrics? Show me some evidence that he hasn’t had a great year, I’d love to see it!
- neem55

I know HB doesn’t represent the Canucks fanbase, there’s just a few cryers in here, I would assume the majority of the fanbase is extremely happy with the kid. He’s been fantastic since he arrived. He has tailed off the past two months but he’s still been really good.

It’s more about how he plays for the cryers, I think, EP40 is just a better version of Henrik Sedin. He’s soft as f**k, he’s not Canadian, but he’s a really talented player.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 1 @ 6:43 PM ET
Ah so ignore evidence to point out things. Good stuff!
- neem55

Here is your evidence again…
4PP pts last 25gms
20pts last 25gms .8ppg 66pt pace


Ignore away from my posts before or fix your memory loss before it’s too late lol

Here go supply your pre ASB stats instead of claiming you did your homework lol

https://www.espn.com/nhl/.../4233566/elias-pettersson
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 1 @ 6:46 PM ET
I'll try to answer for 99% of us that understand what "criticism" means to us.

a) Pettersson is a NHL hockey player that plays for our favourite hockey team, he scores goals, gets assists, wins faceoffs, plays good defensive hockey. There are also times when he doesn't score goals, or get any assists, loses faceoffs and plays poor defensive hockey. These are always pointed out both good and bad, as is with all players and coaches, that is what the basis of hockey conversations are built upon.
b) Pettersson salary both present and future have been discussed, and as we all know his negotiated salary is based on everything in the above statement. Now, you nor I did not negotiate that salary with Pettersson, a real proven, experienced guy in the NHL negotiated Pettersson salary. There is absolutely nothing any of us can do or say that will change any of the salary that Pettersson will receive.
c) I do not have my head in the sand because Pettersson is in a slump and makes kazillions of dollars, so not really sure why you think we should all be spazzed and continually b!tch about Pettersson.
d) There is criticism and constructive criticism which can be good basis for hockey discussions. Then there is constant non stop criticism that will kill a hockey conversation, and it then is just plain old b!tching.

- Makita



Well done.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 1 @ 6:49 PM ET
I'll try to answer for 99% of us that understand what "criticism" means to us.

a) Pettersson is a NHL hockey player that plays for our favourite hockey team, he scores goals, gets assists, wins faceoffs, plays good defensive hockey. There are also times when he doesn't score goals, or get any assists, loses faceoffs and plays poor defensive hockey. These are always pointed out both good and bad, as is with all players and coaches, that is what the basis of hockey conversations are built upon.
b) Pettersson salary both present and future have been discussed, and as we all know his negotiated salary is based on everything in the above statement. Now, you nor I did not negotiate that salary with Pettersson, a real proven, experienced guy in the NHL negotiated Pettersson salary. There is absolutely nothing any of us can do or say that will change any of the salary that Pettersson will receive.
c) I do not have my head in the sand because Pettersson is in a slump and makes kazillions of dollars, so not really sure why you think we should all be spazzed and continually b!tch about Pettersson.
d) There is criticism and constructive criticism which can be good basis for hockey discussions. Then there is constant non stop criticism that will kill a hockey conversation, and it then is just plain old b!tching.

- Makita


Well said Makita.

I do find it hilarious that unless you show extreme OCD symptoms over Petey's salary next season, you are just sticking your head in the sand.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 1 @ 6:49 PM ET
Ah so ignore evidence to point out things. Good stuff!
- neem55

A very experienced, intelligent, collective, group signed Pettersson to a salary that I would assume they put a lot of business thought and forecasting into.

Whether people will admit it or not, the team is in part good because of EP40 and his contributions. Over the life of that contract he’s going to be one of the best players the Canucks have ever drafted, despite not being tough or gritty.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 1 @ 6:51 PM ET

Well done.

- K-man25

Comprehension is the tricky part.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 1 @ 6:57 PM ET
Elias Pettersson #40 is never getting traded, I hope the contract cryers can come to terms with that!!
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 1 @ 7:01 PM ET
Comprehension is the tricky part.
- Marwood

And not 1 or as some like to over use on here.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 1 @ 7:04 PM ET
I'll try to answer for 99% of us that understand what "criticism" means to us.

a) Pettersson is a NHL hockey player that plays for our favourite hockey team, he scores goals, gets assists, wins faceoffs, plays good defensive hockey. There are also times when he doesn't score goals, or get any assists, loses faceoffs and plays poor defensive hockey. These are always pointed out both good and bad, as is with all players and coaches, that is what the basis of hockey conversations are built upon.
b) Pettersson salary both present and future have been discussed, and as we all know his negotiated salary is based on everything in the above statement. Now, you nor I did not negotiate that salary with Pettersson, a real proven, experienced guy in the NHL negotiated Pettersson salary. There is absolutely nothing any of us can do or say that will change any of the salary that Pettersson will receive.
c) I do not have my head in the sand because Pettersson is in a slump and makes kazillions of dollars, so not really sure why you think we should all be spazzed and continually b!tch about Pettersson.
d) There is criticism and constructive criticism which can be good basis for hockey discussions. Then there is constant non stop criticism that will kill a hockey conversation, and it then is just plain old b!tching.

- Makita

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 1 @ 7:08 PM ET
Elias Pettersson #40 is never getting traded, I hope the contract cryers can come to terms with that!!
- Pacificgem

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 1 @ 7:10 PM ET
And not 1 or as some like to over use on here.
- K-man25

Yeah it's amazing how you can get your point across without all the
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 1 @ 7:19 PM ET
Pre ASB…

49gms 27g 37a 64pts 1.3ppg elite

Evidence for the lazy claiming they did their homework. Stay in school lol
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 1 @ 7:34 PM ET
In Columbia Ohio watching the Jackets vs Avalanche, not at the game but in Columbus, the Avalanche seem disinterested sometimes until they have to try. Probably why they only have 100 points, like the Canucks.

Damn that MacKinnon is a good player though.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 1 @ 7:34 PM ET
Pre ASB…

49gms 27g 37a 64pts 1.3ppg elite

- Nighthawk

I am sure that you know this, but next year when you are looking at a players previous years ppg totals, you will base it on the season which they played in. It is not decided pre ASB, post ASB. They do not do 25 game segments to determine ppg unless that player only played 25 games.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 1 @ 7:36 PM ET
I am sure that you know this, but next year when you are looking at a players previous years ppg totals, you will base it on the season which they played in. It is not decided pre ASB, post ASB. They do not do 25 game segments to determine ppg unless that player only played 25 games.
- Makita

Yeah, but it supports his meaningless non-stop complaining about one of the best players on the team who helps them win. I mean, who really wants that…right?
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 1 @ 7:43 PM ET
Yeah it's amazing how you can get your point across without all the
- A_SteamingLombardi

lol
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 1 @ 7:45 PM ET
In Columbia Ohio watching the Jackets vs Avalanche, not at the game but in Columbus, the Avalanche seem disinterested sometimes until they have to try. Probably why they only have 100 points, like the Canucks.

Damn that MacKinnon is a good player though.

- Pacificgem

You get around. Why not at the game though? Tickets can’t be hard to get.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 1 @ 7:45 PM ET
Yeah, but it supports his meaningless non-stop complaining about one of the best players on the team who helps them win. I mean, who really wants that…right?
- Pacificgem

not sure I grasp the “criticism” of 1.135 ppg, guess it should be more realistic maybe 2.99 ppg
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 1 @ 7:48 PM ET
Good thing we still have Hughes & Miller.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 1 @ 7:50 PM ET
Yeah, but it supports his meaningless non-stop complaining about one of the best players on the team who helps them win. I mean, who really wants that…right?
- Pacificgem


NH was doing the same routine before the all star break as well. He likes to break it down like it's now justified but he' started this routine Nov 9th in the 2nd period of the game vs Ottawa when Petey, who was hottest player in the NHL at the time had a poor 1st period. NH became unglued and started talking benching, credibility etc etc.. Petey ended up having a great 2nd half of the game collecting 3 points and getting 1st or 2nd star. He also returned to form and steamed ahead even getting NHL 2nd star for January. NH female doging and moaning the whole way. He plays the justified since the ASB card now so what does this mean? It means all his complaining in Nov, Dec, and Jan were not justified I guess... This just reveals that he was waiting for an opportunity from 1st puck drop this season... got it in early Nov and hasnt let up since.

I really doubt it was ever about salary like he claims.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 1 @ 7:51 PM ET
not sure I grasp the “criticism” of 1.135 ppg, guess it should be more realistic maybe 2.99 ppg
- Makita

1.117 but why quibble after all he’s on fire. Still in the Hart convo?
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 1 @ 7:51 PM ET
not sure I grasp the “criticism” of 1.135 ppg, guess it should be more realistic maybe 2.99 ppg
- Makita

Miller has 26 points and EP40 20 points since the all star break, Pettersson should be embarrassed.

Pettersson, Nylander and Draisaitl are the lowest cap hits for top 12 scorers this seasons. Petey was also bottom three cap hit top 10 scorer last season. Maybe he should play for free and get 200 points?
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 1 @ 7:53 PM ET
You get around. Why not at the game though? Tickets can’t be hard to get.
- K-man25

I just flew in today for work, I’ve got an early rise tomorrow. Hotel bed and tv are a lot more comfy for this old guy.
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