that is BS and you know it. There were a lot of people on this very forum stating that Ersson was as good as Hart so the Flyers should trade Hart. I was I think the only one that believed Hart was a franchise caliber goalie and the Flyers should extend him to be their goalie for years to come. Now everyone should see that Ersson isn't even close.
- jd250

You may have been the only person here saying Hart was a franchise goalie. So the F what? Can you prove that he is? Or would have been? No. My memory was that many were willing to listen to offers on him since his contract demands would have been higher and longer than folks wanted. So put your smugness to rest.

As much as I was disappointed in the outcome of last nights game, being in this position this season with soooooo many "experts" and armchair GMs already putting the Flyers in a lock for the bottom feeder of this years draft is in my opinion nothing but icing on the cake

There are alot of players who are and will benefit from this experience and as far as Im concerned, aka my opinion, the front office has done a decent job in the time they have had to make decisions

One thing that is noticible to me is the level of the "quietness" involving players such as the Gautier and Fedotov transactions - I dont have unrealistic expectations from the FO right now because anyone expecting immediate turnaround from where they were into contenders isnt realistic. The fear mongering on here that they were going to retain Walker proved to be just that - fear, even as much as Walker was helping the team unexpectedly. Forester has been a VERY refreshing player to watch and I for one am excited to watch him develop just as Brink and Frost. Tippet has turned out to be another player I expect to continue to improve

If they get to the playoffs, unless they magically transform the PP into an effective weapon from what it is now, it will be an early exit. I feel having Errson and Fedotov as a tandom is much improved over Sandstrom or Peterson. Will it be enough to get them a tciket to the dance? who knows but Im not going to be ranting and complaining if they dont as there is still ALOT that needs work but nothing replaces oh hand experience as these players who most likely havent played significant hockey at this point in a season and I will still be patient to see what comes about in the offseason.

This is a banged up group that didnt have the luxury of elite players on their roster from day 1 and as the injuries piled up there isnt any Austen Matthews, Pastrnak, Bedard etc to help push them over until they get healthir and back in sync - again I look for those areas to be addressed by the FO and wont expect an immediate top 5 ranking for another season or 2 at least.

Only one team can win it all and historically it hasnt been the top dog at the end of the regular season who holds the cup at the end so Im good with what Im seeing so far
- jackfrost

The Flyers wanted to and tried to re-sign Walker. To their credit, they balked at the price and stood firm but they didn't move him because they wanted to rebuild. They moved him because of cost.
I'm not satisfied anymore with a team that is a bubble playoff team. I'll believe it when I see it that this team is going to do the right thing.

that is BS and you know it. There were a lot of people on this very forum stating that Ersson was as good as Hart so the Flyers should trade Hart. I was I think the only one that believed Hart was a franchise caliber goalie and the Flyers should extend him to be their goalie for years to come. Now everyone should see that Ersson isn't even close.
- jd250

LOL. Ersson is a rookie. You're attempting to criticize others while self admitting that you believed Hart is a franchise goalie. It's obvious that you have no clue what a franchise goalie is. Hart is nothing special and the situation saved the Flyers from a mistake.

Not only were you the only one of this forum who thought that Hart was a franchise goalie. You're only one in the entire world who does.

We can add it to the list of hyperbole and asinine analysis you've made. Specifically to the Flyers. Hart is a franchise goalie and Konecny is the face of the franchise.

LOL. Ersson is a rookie. You're attempting to criticize others while self admitting that you believed Hart is a franchise goalie. It's obvious that you have no clue what a franchise goalie is. Hart is nothing special and the situation saved the Flyers from a mistake.

Not only were you the only one of this forum who thought that Hart was a franchise goalie. You're only one in the entire world who does.

We can add it to the list of hyperbole and asinine analysis you've made. Specifically to the Flyers. Hart is a franchise goalie and Konecny is the face of the franchise.
- MJL

sam isn't your typical rookie cliff. how many years of pro hockey under his belt. so the rookie excuse doesn't float n his case.

is in bold part of the intelligent conversation you claim you add every day?

sam isn't your typical rookie cliff. how many years of pro hockey under his belt. so the rookie excuse doesn't float n his case.

is in bold part of the intelligent conversation you claim you add every day?
- hello it's me 2050

Agree. Ersson is no rookie. He’s young still but not rookie

Agree. Ersson is no rookie. He’s young still but not rookie
- Stayin alive

It's a fact that Ersson is an NHL rookie.

I’m waiting until the summer. Rome was not built in a day. TK should not be given an 8 year deal but that hasn’t happened yet so I’m not going to worry until there is something to worry about. The Walker deal showed they understand they are still far away. How much they understand that is still to be seen.

Edit: aka, Laughton and TK could still be traded this summer.
- coffee junkie

Fair enough but there is a track record that they don't know how to build Rome.

At least the Phillies getting hammered by an all-star team.

It's classic Flyers isn't it? They look decent versus the better teams and then lay eggs against weaker ones. Tale as old as time.
- Tomahawk

Yep I know but it sure is frustrating!! It’s not too late they still control their own fate. I guess this is all part of the team learning how to win down the stretch. Each game and point matter!

As much as I was disappointed in the outcome of last nights game, being in this position this season with soooooo many "experts" and armchair GMs already putting the Flyers in a lock for the bottom feeder of this years draft is in my opinion nothing but icing on the cake

There are alot of players who are and will benefit from this experience and as far as Im concerned, aka my opinion, the front office has done a decent job in the time they have had to make decisions

One thing that is noticible to me is the level of the "quietness" involving players such as the Gautier and Fedotov transactions - I dont have unrealistic expectations from the FO right now because anyone expecting immediate turnaround from where they were into contenders isnt realistic. The fear mongering on here that they were going to retain Walker proved to be just that - fear, even as much as Walker was helping the team unexpectedly. Forester has been a VERY refreshing player to watch and I for one am excited to watch him develop just as Brink and Frost. Tippet has turned out to be another player I expect to continue to improve

If they get to the playoffs, unless they magically transform the PP into an effective weapon from what it is now, it will be an early exit. I feel having Errson and Fedotov as a tandom is much improved over Sandstrom or Peterson. Will it be enough to get them a tciket to the dance? who knows but Im not going to be ranting and complaining if they dont as there is still ALOT that needs work but nothing replaces oh hand experience as these players who most likely havent played significant hockey at this point in a season and I will still be patient to see what comes about in the offseason.

This is a banged up group that didnt have the luxury of elite players on their roster from day 1 and as the injuries piled up there isnt any Austen Matthews, Pastrnak, Bedard etc to help push them over until they get healthir and back in sync - again I look for those areas to be addressed by the FO and wont expect an immediate top 5 ranking for another season or 2 at least.

Only one team can win it all and historically it hasnt been the top dog at the end of the regular season who holds the cup at the end so Im good with what Im seeing so far
- jackfrost

It's good to see others who took positives from this season
Tyson foerster is going to be a good hockey player, as is cam York.
Frost found a new gear and while we all have our days, he looks like his consistency issues will be less and less.
DB got fedotov out of Russia and kolosov is here now too.
They salvaged the quitter Gauthier situation and got JD. The kid is still only 21 so his game is far from developed. It's still an unknown but if they created the CG situation it is a knock against them, but nothing confirmed.
They traded Walker for a 1st and he was just a throw in on another deal.
And the few kidd that they actually played thus season gained some valuable developmental experience.

Personally, I was hoping for a closer to a top 10 draft pick season but it really has been fun and exciting to watch the flyers again and that is not something I would have said the past 2 seasons.
Baby steps

Literally nobody. Ersson had nothing to do with people wanting to trade Hart.
- MBFlyerfan

Agreed. I didn't want to tie up big money, long term on a goalie when we are supposed to be rebuilding. Having Ersson in the wings just makes it an easier move to make. The other part of that thought pattern was that he could bring back a nice haul, with Edmonton, NJD, Carolina and Torornto all possibly looking for a starter at the time, and possibly getting into a bidding war.

There is a reason that most of Torts’ teams flame out quickly in the playoffs. He pushes his teams to play with playoff intensity each and every game and they run out of gas by late in the season. The Flyers just look like a cooked team. Now add a ridiculously bad pp (how Rocky is still employed is beyond me) and mediocre goaltending and you have what we saw last night.

I have little hope for Monday as the Isles should be playing with desperation. Honestly, they are extremely fortunate that Jersey was hit with key injuries and waited too long to acquire a goalie and Larkin was out for a while in Detroit, or they’d already be out of a playoff position and sitting 10th in the conference.
- BiggE

Predicted this would happen back before the Vancouver road trip. Same thing with Coots wearing out due to overuse. I am sure the 11-7 format hasn't helped anything either.

Just plss poor coaching. You could see ths coming 3 months ago.

It's good to see others who took positives from this season
Tyson foerster is going to be a good hockey player, as is cam York.
Frost found a new gear and while we all have our days, he looks like his consistency issues will be less and less.
DB got fedotov out of Russia and kolosov is here now too.
They salvaged the quitter Gauthier situation and got JD. The kid is still only 21 so his game is far from developed. It's still an unknown but if they created the CG situation it is a knock against them, but nothing confirmed.
They traded Walker for a 1st and he was just a throw in on another deal.
And the few kidd that they actually played thus season gained some valuable developmental experience.

Personally, I was hoping for a closer to a top 10 draft pick season but it really has been fun and exciting to watch the flyers again and that is not something I would have said the past 2 seasons.
Baby steps
- Bob Habib

I concur with you my esteemed colleague!

Year 1 of the announced rebuild is looking good so far. More work to be done for sure but it’s definitely a better competitive team on the ice and the young players are being given plenty of playing time to develop.
Hopefully they get some playoff experience too!

It's a fact that Ersson is an NHL rookie.
- MJL

Agreed

I guess people are counting international leagues. If that is the case then pretty much no international goalie can ever be considered a rookie. International skaters as well.

The Flyers wanted to and tried to re-sign Walker. To their credit, they balked at the price and stood firm but they didn't move him because they wanted to rebuild. They moved him because of cost.
I'm not satisfied anymore with a team that is a bubble playoff team. I'll believe it when I see it that this team is going to do the right thing.
- MJL

Ever thought about following a new team? Buffalo?

The Flyers wanted to and tried to re-sign Walker. To their credit, they balked at the price and stood firm but they didn't move him because they wanted to rebuild. They moved him because of cost.
I'm not satisfied anymore with a team that is a bubble playoff team. I'll believe it when I see it that this team is going to do the right thing.
- MJL

A team isnt going to wave a magic wand and go from a non playoff, non bubble team and instantly become a playoff team overnight. I would have expected them to explore all options with all players. If Walkers price fit within that range they felt they could sign him and continue with the rebuild without straying too far off the path or more realistically paths to accomplish it then the FO would be foolish and not do their due diligence. The end result was that it didnt fit into their plan and Walker was traded - no harm no foul as far as Im concerned

Im sure your opinion of what a rebuild process looks like for a team varies from mine but in my opinion, you cant jettison all your vets, throw the kids into the fire and not have any type of stability along the way and expect a team to become better. That philosophy doesnt work in sports or business, at some point, some of those players in the rebuild mix need to be vets and vets in an area where the FO feels the need for that vet presence weighs more than others be it defense, goaltending or forwards.

For all we know SC could have a relapse and not start the season or become less effective - this is why I feel they have to explore that option of resigning TK - whther they do it or not is how that move fits in the grand sceme. Im just not the type that feels that a rebuild is wipe out all the vets at once and replace them with kids - guidance and experience has to still be around. Im not on their "call for opinions" list and no one on this board is so Ill give them the benefit of doubt they have multiple scenarios already mapped up some that no one on here even suspects

Lets remember - this years team with its roster was never supposed to be holding onto a playoff spot this late into the season or even come close to it but going from what last years team alone was and what it currently is as a bubble team for this season caught everyone off guard for this season itself - as I stated - Im okay with how things are progressing.

Next year I expect more as they have proven with a horrendous PP and all these kids who have performed well with a season under their belt that has included a playoff run experience to go up to the next level with additions and subtractions but they have been doing as they stated - building from the Defense Out

It's good to see others who took positives from this season
Tyson foerster is going to be a good hockey player, as is cam York.
Frost found a new gear and while we all have our days, he looks like his consistency issues will be less and less.
DB got fedotov out of Russia and kolosov is here now too.
They salvaged the quitter Gauthier situation and got JD. The kid is still only 21 so his game is far from developed. It's still an unknown but if they created the CG situation it is a knock against them, but nothing confirmed.
They traded Walker for a 1st and he was just a throw in on another deal.
And the few kidd that they actually played thus season gained some valuable developmental experience.

Personally, I was hoping for a closer to a top 10 draft pick season but it really has been fun and exciting to watch the flyers again and that is not something I would have said the past 2 seasons.
Baby steps
- Bob Habib

Thanks for the reply

I totally forgot to mention York as well as he has certainly stepped up like the others mentioned. I look forward to seeing York and Drysdale and Seeler recover fully and back to game shape be it the next couple weeks or if its not in the stars, next year.

Years ago during the Hextall years Ill never forget all the experts proclaiming the Flyers Defense in the system would be amazing in a couple years. Out of that bunch of Ghost, Provorov, Myers, Sanheim, Haag only Sanheim remains with the team so just goes to prove, nothings ever a sure thing.

Trades can still be made and Im sure the FO will be working hard to drop lower in the draft. Ive been mildly impressed that they have been sticking to the plan. You cant tank and make a playoff run at the same time right? lol

Nothing replaces experience and I like you agree its been a lot more fun than in past seasons to watch this team again

It's a fact that Ersson is an NHL rookie.
- MJL

Hey honey. Quick question, you responded to me after you put a self imposed ban talking to me . Am I back in your good graces?

So Kolosov is here now too. So that’s a good thing.

this team always seems to play to their competition
probably not a good thing for a weaker schedule to close out the season

Agree. Ersson is no rookie. He’s young still but not rookie
- Stayin alive

so how many years did ersson play in the NHL before this year? I'm not faulting him for anything he was thrown into this

so how many years did ersson play in the NHL before this year? I'm not faulting him for anything he was thrown into this
- 2Real

I guess I am confused as to what a rookie is. Will they consider Michkov a rookie when he gets here?

I guess I am confused as to what a rookie is. Will they consider Michkov a rookie when he gets here?
- MBFlyerfan

From what I have been reading on this blog only college kids would be considered rookies. The nhl should change their definition.

Happy Easter
- Lawless18

Happy Easter I hope everyone enjoyed this day with family and friends!

I bet the 3 stooges are giving themselves a pat on the back. looking forward to seeing who they try to overpay in free agency on the backend. reading between the lines sanhei and york are gassed.

didnt chuck a few years back use some crazy stat to say they were the most improved team or something to that effect. dont remember all the details.
- hello it's me 2050

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“We all recognize where we are at,” Fletcher said. “We are not making the playoffs. I can throw numbers all day, point percentage basis. We are the fifth most improved team..."

Yea it was an asinine thing to say. Basically just saying we aren't as as bad as we were last year point wise.