Nope, you have it wrong. What was said by many, inc.luding myself is that the Flyers shouldn't get into a high number deal and re-signing Hart. Ersson is a rookie and most goalies, including Hart have ups and downs. It's a mistake to place too much value on this season and having tunnel vision.
- MJL

sniffing your own ass again cliff?

Happy Easter

Happy Easter
- Lawless18

happy transgender day of visibility.

They took a chance that Petersen could be an NHL backup and that failed. Hathaway and Poehling make up for that bad bet.

No specifically saying you, but too many fans are helter-skelter about what they want. They want the Flyers to tank but get mad when they acquire a bad goalie. They didn’t want them in the playoffs but are now complaining they won’t make it. They want a rebuild but don’t want to give young players time to develop. Pick a lane or it just sounds like complaining to complain to me.
- psuhockey

This is the post of the year on here!!! Bunch of effing whiners!! Happy Easter!!

I am still holding out hope they make the playoffs and I will root hard for them to win and be disappointed when they don't.

That being said.

All this season has succeeded in doing is trick the franchise (and some fanbase) in to thinking they are closer than they are. I just hope they wise up and fight the urge to act like it.
- MBFlyerfan

I get it. I'm definitely not rooting for losses nor have I all season but you're right. They are getting derailed from a rebuild because they have a false sense of identity with this team. I have no doubt in my mind playoffs is the goal next season. They'll miss. Again.

so the coach has no blame in the "over working" of players?

wasnt this, what did they call it a rebuild? isnt that the time to see what you have and distribute the minute more evenly?

speaking of rebuild cant wait to see cam nd and staal back in the lineup monday. need those vets this time of year
- hello it's me 2050

Coach is not at fault for injuries, coach did not trade walker.

It is is the coaches job to put his team in the best position to win. Playing York and Sanheim was his best option.

call it what you want.

when you have trade-able assets that do not fit the timeline you move them. not re-sign or keep.
- hello it's me 2050

100% correct. It’s just that plain and simple

I stand by not wanting to extend Hart on a multi year deal for over 6 million before the indictment. His play did not warrent top 5 goal money. We'll see what happens with Ersson, Fedotov, and Kosolov in development over the next few years. When they traded Bob to CLB, I guarantee you no one thought his resume would include 2 time Vezina winner and SCF finalist.

They took a chance that Petersen could be an NHL backup and that failed. Hathaway and Poehling make up for that bad bet.

No specifically saying you, but too many fans are helter-skelter about what they want. They want the Flyers to tank but get mad when they acquire a bad goalie. They didn’t want them in the playoffs but are now complaining they won’t make it. They want a rebuild but don’t want to give young players time to develop. Pick a lane or it just sounds like complaining to complain to me.
- psuhockey

Exactly. Well stated. They expected this team to go from 75 points (I think their total last season) to the conference finals in one offseason. I’m happy to have meaningful hockey in March. It’s just the next step in the process. Play the kids, play the kids. Well that comes with ups and downs. I accept where they are today with the hope they continue to make some necessary moves this offseason.

I stand by not wanting to extend Hart on a multi year deal for over 6 million before the indictment. His play did not warrent top 5 goal money. We'll see what happens with Ersson, Fedotov, and Kosolov in development over the next few years. When they traded Bob to CLB, I guarantee you no one thought his resume would include 2 time Vezina winner and SCF finalist.
- Trox88

Bob wanted out. I don't think they wanted to trade him, but he didn't want to play second fiddle to the space cadet. And quite frankly, until last season Bob had done nothing in the playoffs.

Who is the next pretty good player getting a 8 year deal from the Flyers? TK is first but then who is up? York?

Exactly. Well stated. They expected this team to go from 75 points (I think their total last season) to the conference finals in one offseason. I’m happy to have meaningful hockey in March. It’s just the next step in the process. Play the kids, play the kids. Well that’s comes with up and downs. I accept where they are today with the hope they continue to make some necessary moves this offseason.
- Laceemup88

Wow, another reasonable thought! It's nice to see at least a few folks on here are in touch with reality.

Frost starting to consistently perform as a 2nd line center. York establishing himself as a legit #2 defensemen who can take big minutes. Foerster hitting 20 goals while playing as a top level defensive forward. Brink getting NHL experience and not looking out of place. Picking up Poehling for nothing and getting his career back on track. Flyers acquiring another 1st round pick for 2025. These things don’t do anything for you?
- psuhockey

Not really.

The last 2 seasons. If they had been selling the past 2 years we would have been way better off. Wasted opportunities - JVR for nothing, Laughton, Seeler, Couturier, soon to be TK, the whole Gauthier debacle because there was no room for him on this team. Their philosophy is just wash, rinse, repeat and guess what, nothing for 50 years Same thing with the Phillies -- Atlanta drafts and develops elite talent; Phillies just sign it . Except, they are crypt keepers.
- mr4tno

I agree. It's getting old. The fact I'm not the least bit surprised or even disappointed at this collapse it just a touch of apathy setting in.

they took cal as a cap dump. not sure they saw him as a viable nhl backup. again if they did goes back to their pro scouts; horrible scouting. did they even watch him the last few years?

they had the perfect chance to really rebuild and show this is a diff regime. so far they have not. they can move the guys with real value to set them up for the future. I have zero faith they will go that route. it will be the opposite. just a rudderless franchise from where I sit.
- hello it's me 2050

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- Pelle31Forever

I’m waiting until the summer. Rome was not built in a day. TK should not be given an 8 year deal but that hasn’t happened yet so I’m not going to worry until there is something to worry about. The Walker deal showed they understand they are still far away. How much they understand that is still to be seen.

Edit: aka, Laughton and TK could still be traded this summer.

As much as I was disappointed in the outcome of last nights game, being in this position this season with soooooo many "experts" and armchair GMs already putting the Flyers in a lock for the bottom feeder of this years draft is in my opinion nothing but icing on the cake

There are alot of players who are and will benefit from this experience and as far as Im concerned, aka my opinion, the front office has done a decent job in the time they have had to make decisions

One thing that is noticible to me is the level of the "quietness" involving players such as the Gautier and Fedotov transactions - I dont have unrealistic expectations from the FO right now because anyone expecting immediate turnaround from where they were into contenders isnt realistic. The fear mongering on here that they were going to retain Walker proved to be just that - fear, even as much as Walker was helping the team unexpectedly. Forester has been a VERY refreshing player to watch and I for one am excited to watch him develop just as Brink and Frost. Tippet has turned out to be another player I expect to continue to improve

If they get to the playoffs, unless they magically transform the PP into an effective weapon from what it is now, it will be an early exit. I feel having Errson and Fedotov as a tandom is much improved over Sandstrom or Peterson. Will it be enough to get them a tciket to the dance? who knows but Im not going to be ranting and complaining if they dont as there is still ALOT that needs work but nothing replaces oh hand experience as these players who most likely havent played significant hockey at this point in a season and I will still be patient to see what comes about in the offseason.

This is a banged up group that didnt have the luxury of elite players on their roster from day 1 and as the injuries piled up there isnt any Austen Matthews, Pastrnak, Bedard etc to help push them over until they get healthir and back in sync - again I look for those areas to be addressed by the FO and wont expect an immediate top 5 ranking for another season or 2 at least.

Only one team can win it all and historically it hasnt been the top dog at the end of the regular season who holds the cup at the end so Im good with what Im seeing so far

Bob wanted out. I don't think they wanted to trade him, but he didn't want to play second fiddle to the space cadet. And quite frankly, until last season Bob had done nothing in the playoffs.
- Phillywhiteout

Fair enough, is Aiden Hill considered an elite goalie? My basic point I am not as concerned finding a #1 goalie. There are plenty of warts to address on the team, dwelling on Ersson's performance the last 3 starts is way down my list of concerns. I am not here to annoit him a #1 goalie, but I am perfectly comfortable going in with Ersson, Fedotov, and Kosolov next season. Keep Petersen buried in the minors and gain the benefit of clearing 5 million off the cap next season.

Literally nobody. Ersson had nothing to do with people wanting to trade Hart.
-MBFlyersfan

that is BS and you know it. There were a lot of people on this very forum stating that Ersson was as good as Hart so the Flyers should trade Hart. I was I think the only one that believed Hart was a franchise caliber goalie and the Flyers should extend him to be their goalie for years to come. Now everyone should see that Ersson isn't even close.

At the end of the day they're two mediocre goalies.

Hart's SV% always dropped as the season went on. His work on the PK was always bad. Not like he'd be making much of a difference right now, especially with the coverage mistakes this team is making.

Hopefully Fedotov and/or Kolosov will be better. Hopefully.
- Tomahawk

And the goalie carousel continues ...

That’s not true. People were 100 percent saying that there was no need to keep hart with how Ersson was playing. What people apparently didn’t notice is that both tenders were playing well in the rotation. Now hart is gone and it’s been a scramble because we’ve had to play Ersson so much. What I will add is that we shouldn’t be too fast to write Ersson off here. I know some people have said, they’re done with him. It’s his first full year for gods sake. Flyers fans are too quick to throw goalies under the bus for all the teams problems. It’s not always entirely on the goalie.
- Hextall271

Well said, I'm glad someone on here is paying attention besides me. I by no means want to give up on Ersson, but right now he is costing them games. But he is a rookie and the Flyers have plenty of competition for the job, so I guess we'll see what he has.

Fair enough, is Aiden Hill considered an elite goalie? My basic point I am not as concerned finding a #1 goalie. There are plenty of warts to address on the team, dwelling on Ersson's performance the last 3 starts is way down my list of concerns. I am not here to annoit him a #1 goalie, but I am perfectly comfortable going in with Ersson, Fedotov, and Kosolov next season. Keep Petersen buried in the minors and gain the benefit of clearing 5 million off the cap next season.
- Trox88

I agree that an elite goalie isn't the end all be all that it is made out to be by some on here. However, you need good (above average) goalie play to get anywhere. A good tandem is best. I haven't seen much of the last couple of games, but when I see a save pct. of .778 that tells me Ersson simply has to be better. I hope the three that you mention can work out cause it doesn't seem to me that Ersson can be relied upon to be a true #1 tender.

He may or may not be a good NHL starter but the guy is a rookie starting at a pace more than the established elite goalies in the league. To judge the guy based on that is absurd either way.

For those clamoring for a proper rebuild they are quick to throw rookies down the toilet if they aren’t studs right away. Can’t wait for when the Flyers start working in rookie defensemen.
- psuhockey

Your second para makes a very good point which concerns me. Some want a tear down to the studs rebuild but are not at all patient with the rookies. Frost brink Ersson York amd others need minutes and patience. Most guys don’t come in and dominate right away. Especially when there is limited supporting depth and they are thrown to the wolves on an average team rather than gradually working to a bigger role.

This is the post of the year on here!!! Bunch of effing whiners!! Happy Easter!!
- Phillywhiteout

youre one of them, you bipolar female dog

Coach is not at fault for injuries, coach did not trade walker.

It is is the coaches job to put his team in the best position to win. Playing York and Sanheim was his best option.
- WhiskeyMan

so the coach isn't to blame for over working any players. interesting. Then who is in charge of the players minutes distribution all year?