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furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:30 PM ET
Does being a .500 team and on the playoff bubble satisfy you as a Flyers fan?
- MJL

Do you want the Flyers to make the playoffs or miss with a chance at the lottery?
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:31 PM ET
Exactly what Bill said - Torts has blinders on!
- Flyfly

Is it blinders? Or does he really believe this is the best shot to win the game?
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Mar 27 @ 12:36 PM ET
Is it blinders? Or does he really believe this is the best shot to win the game?
- furio16


Torts history of OT tells us its blinders. Your opinion may differ and that is fine.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:39 PM ET
Torts history of OT tells us its blinders. Your opinion may differ and that is fine.
- Flyfly

The only opinion I have is not having your better players out there is dumb.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Mar 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
The question wasn't if they've improved. They obviously have. All of a sudden they're going to morph into a .880 winning percentage team?
- MJL


I was at a Flyers game where if they won they made the playoffs. They ended up going to the finals. Their wining percentage then is lower than it is now.

I saw a mediocre team beat Tampa when Tampa the best team in the league for years. Tampas great winning percentage meant crap.

Winning percentage to me only matters to me if it good enough to make the playoffs.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
TK's play is down for sure, don't know what injury he is fighting, but I do think it is holding his value in check, healthy he might have hit 40 plus goals and 80 plus points
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Mar 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
The only opinion I have is not having your better players out there is dumb.
- furio16

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 27 @ 12:47 PM ET
I was at a Flyers game where if they won they made the playoffs. They ended up going to the finals. Their wining percentage then is lower than it is now.

I saw a mediocre team beat Tampa when Tampa the best team in the league for years. Tampas great winning percentage meant crap.

Winning percentage to me only matters to me if it good enough to make the playoffs.

- WhiskeyMan


OT is a reality of the game, hell, look at the Bruins, they are feasting on OT points.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
I was at a Flyers game where if they won they made the playoffs. They ended up going to the finals. Their wining percentage then is lower than it is now.

I saw a mediocre team beat Tampa when Tampa the best team in the league for years. Tampas great winning percentage meant crap.

Winning percentage to me only matters to me if it good enough to make the playoffs.

- WhiskeyMan

the Flyers never made the playoffs with a sub 500 winning percentage
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Mar 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
OT is a reality of the game, hell, look at the Bruins, they are feasting on OT points.
- wcorvette


You stole my thunder here - the Bruins have 33 OT points this year. Incredible when you think of it...
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Mar 27 @ 1:02 PM ET
the Flyers never made the playoffs with a sub 500 winning percentage
- THE BLACK HAND


Who said they did?
The question was "Does being a .500 team and on the playoff bubble satisfy you as a Flyers fan?"




THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 27 @ 1:03 PM ET
Who said they did?
The question was "Does being a .500 team and on the playoff bubble satisfy you as a Flyers fan?"

- WhiskeyMan

you just did
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Mar 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
you just did
- THE BLACK HAND


Please share the quote where I said it was under .500.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 1:13 PM ET
Torts history of OT tells us its blinders. Your opinion may differ and that is fine.
- Flyfly


I'd say it's some of both. He thinks that's how you win but he has blinders in terms of how you win in the current modern day NHL.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 27 @ 1:16 PM ET
Please share the quote where I said it was under .500.
- WhiskeyMan

I was at a Flyers game where if they won they made the playoffs. They ended up going to the finals. Their wining percentage then is lower than it is now.



What Twilite Zone (frank)ing world am I living in,,,,for (frank) sake
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 1:18 PM ET
I was at a Flyers game where if they won they made the playoffs. They ended up going to the finals. Their wining percentage then is lower than it is now.

I saw a mediocre team beat Tampa when Tampa the best team in the league for years. Tampas great winning percentage meant crap.

Winning percentage to me only matters to me if it good enough to make the playoffs.

- WhiskeyMan


True, the Flyers were a .500 team in the regular season and went to the finals that year. The difference is the 9/10 team had a much better roster and underachieved in the regular season. The current team has overachieved to get to .500.


Are you referring to the Columbus team that beat TB? If so, they weren't a mediocre team. That team won 50 games and had a 109 point season. What happened after that in that playoff season? What happened in the following years?


It seems to me that you're one of the close your eyes and make a wish type. Hoping the team makes a cinderella unexpected run. Good luck with that.

Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 27 @ 1:30 PM ET
Bill, your bias towards the coach is getting worse. Even when Torts worked in the media he wasn't media friendly. He should be judged on what he getting achieved on the ice, not post game interviews. And in that regard Torts deserves an A+.

Its an 82 games schedule and guys get tired, injured and worn down. If a Sixer sat out, no one cares because its time management. Hockey players are tougher than basketball players and don't want to sit out, but sometimes they need someone to make the correct decision for them, for the best interest in the team.

Please don't go Toronto media on us.

I do agree with you on the overtime....3 in a row and we barely touched the puck. The most important instance in OT is the faceoff.

- kennygarcon
Yes, hockey players are waaaaaaaaaaay tougher than basketball players! What Torts is doing in OT is a travesty and very well may end up costing them a playoff spot in the end.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 27 @ 1:32 PM ET
Who said they did?
The question was "Does being a .500 team and on the playoff bubble satisfy you as a Flyers fan?"

- WhiskeyMan

After years of not making the playoffs and having two first round picks in a thin draft, yes making the playoffs satisfy me…for this season.

After a win, MJL is that guy who has been saying “I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the Flyers are making the playoffs” as if it’s some hot take. Some of us have believed since November/December. My point is, this guy wants playoff hockey too but he wants to play both sides when the argument suits him.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
There's no place for this positivity.. We are doomed unless we tear it all down for a 15 year rebuild which will guarantee success. Stop enjoying watching the games too while you're at it!..
- Hextall271

We want to be the Buffalo Sabres!!
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Mar 27 @ 1:39 PM ET
I was at a Flyers game where if they won they made the playoffs. They ended up going to the finals. Their wining percentage then is lower than it is now.



What Twilite Zone (frank)ing world am I living in,,,,for (frank) sake

- THE BLACK HAND


Now I know how MJL feels when he has to put up with idiots like me.

The Flyers winning % this season is not .500, it is .562. When they went on their cup run it was .537. So like I said it was lower then than it is now.

MJL was just rounding it .500 to make a point.

You are living in your own twilight zone.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
Now I know how MJL feels when he has to put up with idiots like me.

The Flyers winning % this season is not .500, it is .562. When they went on their cup run it was .537. So like I said it was lower then than it is now.

MJL was just rounding it .500 to make a point.

You are living in your own twilight zone.

- WhiskeyMan



really? youre wrong. Theyve played 73 games, won 36 lost 37......explain it to me
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 27 @ 1:48 PM ET
Now I know how MJL feels when he has to put up with idiots like me.

The Flyers winning % this season is not .500, it is .562. When they went on their cup run it was .537. So like I said it was lower then than it is now.

MJL was just rounding it .500 to make a point.

You are living in your own twilight zone.

- WhiskeyMan



No, their POINTS % is .562. Meaning they have taken 56.2 % of available points.

Their winning % is .493

They have played 73 games and won 36
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
Poehling looked like he couldn't hold his stick with both hands in OT.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 27 @ 1:54 PM ET
Poehling looked like he couldn't hold his stick with both hands in OT.
- Feanor



Yeah, I was wondering that myself. He looked injured. That is on both the player and the coach. Especially if He was injured before the OT started.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 27 @ 1:55 PM ET
No, their POINTS % is .562. Meaning they have taken 56.2 % of available points.

Their winning % is .493

They have played 73 games and won 36

- MBFlyerfan


At the extreme, an NHL team could have a winning % of .500 and win the Presidents Trophy with a Points % of .750 if they went 41-0-41. That's why P% is the only useful metric to compare teams and seasons since they did away with ties.

This Flyers team has the 10th best P% out of 19 since the 2005 lockout. So that's what has the authentics all fired up - being the exact median.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...intPct&page=0&pageSize=50
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