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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
God, you had to remind me of that too?! Thanks šŸ˜‰
- potvin05



pretty sh!tty weekend !
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
I do think Sorokin gets blamed unfairly sometimes because of the team in front of him but heā€™s rarely stepped up this season. We were spoiled the last 2 years.
- potvin05

Like he is right now? šŸ˜‚
Guy was completely under siege the entire first and held the fort. Itā€™s been blown coverage and high danger chance after high danger chance ever since. After a while the damn is going to break. He hasnā€™t been elite but Iā€™m not sure what anyone is expecting the team in front of him is absolute hot garbage.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 3:28 PM ET
He's played a lot, but those guys can handle hit. Hes in no way at fault for the Isles fortunes this year, but there haven't been nearly as many games thus year that he stole. It's not fair to expect it of him regularly, but I'd say he's been 'good', not elite this year
- keaner17

We wouldnā€™t even be close to being in playoff position if it wasnā€™t for him in the beginning of the season.

Edit; I will say I agree he hasnā€™t been elite but the teams defense is god awful and has been the entire season.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 17 @ 3:32 PM ET
its ova fellas. They do not have what it takes. Everything they gain on that road trip has been given back. This team is about five players away from competing with the elite in this league.
- Nfdbulldawg


Welcome to the club.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Mar 17 @ 3:33 PM ET
He is the only one that has showed today and I agree. He should be named captain next season.
- Nfdbulldawg


I think Barzal had a decent game, but I agree. Lot's of passengers today.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 3:37 PM ET
I think Barzal had a decent game, but I agree. Lot's of passengers today.
- JimmyP

Agreed on Barzal besides Horvat he was one of the only players that was noticeably good at times. Nelson was the bad version of himself today defensively.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 17 @ 3:39 PM ET
He's played a lot, but those guys can handle hit. Hes in no way at fault for the Isles fortunes this year, but there haven't been nearly as many games thus year that he stole. It's not fair to expect it of him regularly, but I'd say he's been 'good', not elite this year
- keaner17


Well said and agree. I would even say very good. But he hasnā€™t been the same.
His number say it at the end of the day.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Mar 17 @ 3:39 PM ET
pretty sh!tty weekend !
- nyisles7

And now Iā€™m sweating out St. Johnā€™s for the NCAAs because of all the conference tournament upsets the past two days. Thought we were a lock after the close loss to UConn. Now, who the (frank) knows? At this point the sports Gods hate me so Iā€™m betting NIT. LOL
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Mar 17 @ 3:40 PM ET
Like he is right now? šŸ˜‚
Guy was completely under siege the entire first and held the fort. Itā€™s been blown coverage and high danger chance after high danger chance ever since. After a while the damn is going to break. He hasnā€™t been elite but Iā€™m not sure what anyone is expecting the team in front of him is absolute hot garbage.

- Cptmjl

Whoā€™s blaming him?

I think Keaner said it better than I can.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
And now Iā€™m sweating out St. Johnā€™s for the NCAAs because of all the conference tournament upsets the past two days. Thought we were a lock after the close loss to UConn. Now, who the (frank) knows? At this point the sports Gods hate me so Iā€™m betting NIT. LOL
- potvin05


Maybe Patrick should call out the players like Rick did.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 3:45 PM ET
Maybe Patrick should call out the players like Rick did.
- ses111

Iā€™ll say one thing. Roy is much less ā€œfieryā€ then what weā€™ve seen from in the past when his team goes out there and craps the bed. In fact he has been the antithesis of that.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
And now Iā€™m sweating out St. Johnā€™s for the NCAAs because of all the conference tournament upsets the past two days. Thought we were a lock after the close loss to UConn. Now, who the (frank) knows? At this point the sports Gods hate me so Iā€™m betting NIT. LOL
- potvin05


LOL, good luck!
chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

Mar 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
Sorokin may not be a Vezina level goalie this season, but can you imagine where this team would be with just an average goalie this season? Would be like watching SJ.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 17 @ 4:00 PM ET
Iā€™ll say one thing. Roy is much less ā€œfieryā€ then what weā€™ve seen from in the past when his team goes out there and craps the bed. In fact he has been the antithesis of that.
- Cptmjl


He better turn into madman Patrick soon.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 17 @ 4:04 PM ET
We wouldnā€™t even be close to being in playoff position if it wasnā€™t for him in the beginning of the season.

Edit; I will say I agree he hasnā€™t been elite but the teams defense is god awful and has been the entire season.

- Cptmjl

I'm going to go full broken record here, but over the past two seasons its just stunning how many fundamental mental errors these players make. We're not talking system errors but simple things like being aware of players getting behind you, knowing when to switchover coverage, dropping back for pinching dmen, not deflecting pucks right in front of your own goalie....the list goes on.
These aren't coaching issues. They're player issues. Just dumb mistakes that you expect peewee players to not make.
They're not a talented team, we know that. They compete by playing disciplined, positionally strong hockey backstopped by elite goaltending. The margin for error is too small to have this many mistakes integrated into your everyday game
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 17 @ 4:07 PM ET
I'm going to go full broken record here, but over the past two seasons its just stunning how many fundamental mental errors these players make. We're not talking system errors but simple things like being aware of players getting behind you, knowing when to switchover coverage, dropping back for pinching dmen, not deflecting pucks right in front of your own goalie....the list goes on.
These aren't coaching issues. They're player issues. Just dumb mistakes that you expect peewee players to not make.
They're not a talented team, we know that. They compete by playing disciplined, positionally strong hockey backstopped by elite goaltending. The margin for error is too small to have this many mistakes created into your everyday game

- keaner17


Some of us tried to say it was a player and not coaching issue. Lou loves these players and knows best. The Wolfpack was right again.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 17 @ 4:26 PM ET
Some of us tried to say it was a player and not coaching issue. Lou loves these players and knows best. The Wolfpack was right again.
- ses111

Well I think most everyone knew this roster had a lot of flaws and certainly was no cup contender. I do think coaching was an issue to some degree but it's difficult to say how much. The bigger issue here is that guys like Pulock, Pelech, Mayfield & Dobson have been utterly abysmal this season.
There's just so many things that have gone wrong.
Lou is at fault for a lot of this, no doubt, but there are some players who are contributing tho the disaster that were not anticipated to be concerns
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
In regard to my note on how bad Pelech, Pulock, Mayfield and Dobson have been the last two seasons:
Patrick Roy mentioned that Doug Houda is responsible for the d pairings. Doug joined the Isles as an assistant to Lane just prior to the beginning of last season, taking defensive and pk responsibilities.

He 100% should be fired
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 17 @ 4:39 PM ET
In regard to my note on how bad Pelech, Pulock, Mayfield and Dobson have been the last two seasons:
Patrick Roy mentioned that Doug Houda is responsible for the d pairings. Doug joined the Isles as an assistant to Lane just prior to the beginning of last season, taking defensive and pk responsibilities.

He 100% should be fired

- keaner17


I mentioned Houda should be fired, but nobody listens to me.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Mar 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
In regard to my note on how bad Pelech, Pulock, Mayfield and Dobson have been the last two seasons:
Patrick Roy mentioned that Doug Houda is responsible for the d pairings. Doug joined the Isles as an assistant to Lane just prior to the beginning of last season, taking defensive and pk responsibilities.

He 100% should be fired

- keaner17

Bruno Gervais isnā€™t available for this job?
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
I mentioned Houda should be fired, but nobody listens to me.
- ses111

Yep, we've both brought him up a few times
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
Bruno Gervais isnā€™t available for this job?
- potvin05

Can he break away from the grill?
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Mar 17 @ 4:47 PM ET
Can he break away from the grill?
- keaner17

Brian Strait then?
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 17 @ 4:49 PM ET
Brian Strait then?
- potvin05

He won't shave his beard
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 17 @ 4:51 PM ET
Yep, we've both brought him up a few times
- keaner17


I saved this team once talking to Ledecky about Garth and Doug. Do I have to do it again?
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