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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 8 @ 12:16 PM ET
I mean, the fact that its surprisingly not a conditional 2027 pick is a win for Dubas I guess.
- Reverend Killtaker


Ouch.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 8 @ 12:17 PM ET
Not speaking about JUST GMJR, but I think he started it.

Less about players acquired, and more about overall roster construction.

Oleksiak, Jack Johsnon, Ryan Reaves, Scevier, Petry, there were definitely moves that shifted the landscape of the roster construction.

I don't absolve Sully from the issues either. He seemed to shift his desired players as well.

- j.boyd919

Oleksiak doesn’t belong on that list. He was actually good for a while, and continued to be good elsewhere after we traded him back to Dallas. Shipping him out because he hit a rut was a mistake.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Mar 8 @ 12:17 PM ET
Not speaking about JUST GMJR, but I think he started it.

Less about players acquired, and more about overall roster construction.

Oleksiak, Jack Johsnon, Ryan Reaves, Scevier, Petry, there were definitely moves that shifted the landscape of the roster construction.

I don't absolve Sully from the issues either. He seemed to shift his desired players as well.

- j.boyd919

I liked Oleksiak. JR did him dirty
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:18 PM ET
Evgeny Kuz.has a year left at 3.7ish that seemed be just fine. But 2.5 for Eller is insane?
- Brownsoldier


Higher upside if they can get him off the cocaine and guns. Or keep him on the cocaine on the DL.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Mar 8 @ 12:18 PM ET
Oleksiak doesn’t belong on that list. He was actually good for a while, and continued to be good elsewhere after we traded him back to Dallas. Shipping him out because he hit a FIST was a mistake.
- Victoro311

FTFY
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Mar 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
Nick foligno got a 1st and 2 4ths last year lmfao.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
Oleksiak doesn’t belong on that list. He was actually good for a while, and continued to be good elsewhere after we traded him back to Dallas. Shipping him out because he hit a rut was a mistake.
- Victoro311


That's not my list of poopty hockey players, it's just a list to show that the goal of the acquisitions was to change the makeup of this team lol
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 8 @ 12:20 PM ET
aaand Goodbye Chad Ruh for a 2027 4th round pick, really?? Did I f'n read that right
- Reverend Killtaker


hahahah wild stuff

Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 8 @ 12:21 PM ET
That's not my list of poopty hockey players, it's just a list to show that the goal of the acquisitions was to change the makeup of this team lol
- j.boyd919

Well besides Oleksiak it definitely could have been taken as a list of poopty hockey players haha

I also think Oleksiak could have fit the Cup winning Penguins model on top of adding the snarl GMJR fixated on. It baffles me to this day that he soured on him so quickly. Was pretty much exactly what he was going for.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 8 @ 12:22 PM ET
I ain’t reading all that, but I’m happy for you… or sorry it happened.
- Victoro311


I didnt read it all, either haha...but...thanks?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
Higher upside if they can get him off the cocaine and guns. Or keep him on the cocaine on the DL.
- j.boyd919

Lol
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Mar 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
Bye Chad R!
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 8 @ 12:25 PM ET
Well besides Oleksiak it definitely could have been taken as a list of poopty hockey players haha

I also think Oleksiak could have fit the Cup winning Penguins model on top of adding the snarl GMJR fixated on. It baffles me to this day that he soured on him so quickly. Was pretty much exactly what he was going for.

- Victoro311


Didn't he lose a fight right before the team soured on him? He wasn't a fighter, but kind of took that role. Next thing you know, he's gone. I thought he was decent, but Sully hates snarl....I'm convinced of that. Really kind of hate him now.
jb55
Joined: 07.11.2023

Mar 8 @ 12:26 PM ET
Oleksiak doesn’t belong on that list. He was actually good for a while, and continued to be good elsewhere after we traded him back to Dallas. Shipping him out because he hit a rut was a mistake.
- Victoro311


They traded him after oleksiak lost that fight to tom wilson.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
Didn't he lose a fight right before the team soured on him? He wasn't a fighter, but kind of took that role. Next thing you know, he's gone. I thought he was decent, but Sully hates snarl....I'm convinced of that. Really kind of hate him now.
- madmike71

Yeah you guys are right. Specifically to Tom Wilson, who was the shadow that Rutherford kept jumping at and the reason he tried to acquire enforcers. I guess there’s my answer. Rutherford got him to check Tom Wilson, he lost the fight, so he got fired. Pretty crazy if you think about it
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
Didn't he lose a fight right before the team soured on him? He wasn't a fighter, but kind of took that role. Next thing you know, he's gone. I thought he was decent, but Sully hates snarl....I'm convinced of that. Really kind of hate him now.
- madmike71

Sully is stale AF, it's time for him to go. Thanks for the 2 cups
coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Louisville, CO
Joined: 03.15.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
Bye Chad R!
- chimpira


Never ever ever would have bet we'd get a 4th for him.
wsldck
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 09.03.2020

Mar 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
I feel like the pens have always got big guys that aren’t very physical,and then people get mad when the big guy doesn’t play a physical game.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:29 PM ET
Didn't he lose a fight right before the team soured on him? He wasn't a fighter, but kind of took that role. Next thing you know, he's gone. I thought he was decent, but Sully hates snarl....I'm convinced of that. Really kind of hate him now.
- madmike71
He fought Tom Wilson I thought and it didnt go well for him.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:29 PM ET
I feel like the pens have always got big guys that aren’t very physical,and then people get mad when the big guy doesn’t play a physical game.
- wsldck


That's because fans know nothing about the players that are acquired, they think that because they are big, that they are physical, when that is almost never the case.
jb55
Joined: 07.11.2023

Mar 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
I feel like the pens have always got big guys that aren’t very physical,and then people get mad when the big guy doesn’t play a physical game.
- wsldck



NICK BJUGSTAD
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 8 @ 12:33 PM ET
Sully is stale AF, it's time for him to go. Thanks for the 2 cups
- 668710


He's awful now. He's the wrong guy for this team.....that's not even a debate.
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Mar 8 @ 12:33 PM ET
An hour an a half left and we've made 1 trade today. I need to just sign off and go back to work.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:34 PM ET
Alright, if Zucker can be moved, there’s no reason why Smith can’t
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 8 @ 12:34 PM ET
An hour an a half left and we've made 1 trade today. I need to just sign off and go back to work.
- Brownsoldier



We are in the middle of a projected 85 cm's (2.78 feet) snow storm. City is shut down. Good day for at home with the TDL haha
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