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Rocco115Pitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.05.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:17 PM ET
Here's to hoping Dubas can add some more with the few other fellas in the block ..
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:20 PM ET
Seravelli said Morrow is not in the deal.....ffs.
- madmike71

Well that’s a kick in the nuts
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 7 @ 11:21 PM ET
Yuck - Bunting is neutral value: He was had FOR FREE like 8 months ago

Blake and a 2nd for Jake?

If it was a 1st, at least we could deal it for another NHL ready player
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:23 PM ET
It’s a 1st if Carolina goes to the cup final. Guess I’m a Carolina fan now
Rocco115Pitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.05.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:24 PM ET
It’s a 1st if Carolina goes to the cup final. Guess I’m a Carolina fan now
- Victoro311


TBH they're probably the only other team I'd consider rooting for in the East anyway
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Mar 7 @ 11:28 PM ET
LeBrun:

PIT trades Jake Guentzel (25% retained) and Ty Smith to Carolina in exchange for Michael Bunting, Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius, Carolina’s 1st RD pick in 2024 (Conditional) and Carolina’s 5th RD pick in 2024 (Conditional).
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:29 PM ET
We didn’t even get Blake
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Mar 7 @ 11:30 PM ET
Cruz Lucious sounds like someone Rocky would fight.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:31 PM ET
LeBrun:

PIT trades Jake Guentzel (25% retained) and Ty Smith to Carolina in exchange for Michael Bunting, Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius, Carolina’s 1st RD pick in 2024 (Conditional) and Carolina’s 5th RD pick in 2024 (Conditional).

- chimpira

Really went for quantity over quality here
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 7 @ 11:31 PM ET
LeBrun:

PIT trades Jake Guentzel (25% retained) and Ty Smith to Carolina in exchange for Michael Bunting, Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius, Carolina’s 1st RD pick in 2024 (Conditional) and Carolina’s 5th RD pick in 2024 (Conditional).

- chimpira


just take the 1st round pick and call it a day
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Mar 7 @ 11:31 PM ET
I’m annoyed with that return. No top prospect or guaranteed first?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:32 PM ET
I’m annoyed with that return. No top prospect or guaranteed first?
- Brownsoldier

I cannot believe Rutherford couldn’t top that. I know van didn’t have a first this year to give but damn.
buckster2342
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 7 @ 11:34 PM ET
I cannot believe Rutherford couldn’t top that. I know van didn’t have a first this year to give but damn.
- Victoro311

Kakko and a 1st would have been better…
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Mar 7 @ 11:36 PM ET
Feels kinda meh. But maybe that’s not terrible for a rental.

CAR has to win 3 rounds for PIT to get 1st round pick. So it’s most likely a 2nd round pick, let’s just go with that.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:36 PM ET
Kakko and a 1st would have been better…
- buckster2342

Maybe. At least these guys have offensive upside even if they may not pan out. Kakko is who he is and that’s a defensive forward. I don’t care about defensive forwards during a rebuild.
out_of_market
Joined: 11.23.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:36 PM ET
Full trade:
Pittsburgh trades Jake Guentzel (25% retained) and Ty Smith to Carolina in exchange for Michael Bunting, Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius, Carolina’s 1st RD pick in 2024 (Conditional) and Carolina’s 5th RD pick in 2024 (Conditional).

https://twitter.com/Pierr...tatus/1765957512795226614
abasin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.27.2018

Mar 7 @ 11:37 PM ET
Looks a lot better if they still resign Jake on 7/1
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Mar 7 @ 11:41 PM ET
Below average return would be my remarks
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:41 PM ET
He's a rental that reportedly doesn't want to extend with the team trading for him. So a middle 6 winger decent PP guy , a 1st (because they're going to finals) , three prospects and a 5th isn't that bad. How couldn't other teams not beat that though? 🤔
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Mar 7 @ 11:44 PM ET
From Twitter:

Kyle: “Sid, we got quite the haul for trading the best winger you’ve ever had. Barry McCockiner, Ben Dover, and Harry Azcrac are all new prospects flying in tomorrow night
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 7 @ 11:44 PM ET
He's a rental that reportedly doesn't want to extend with the team trading for him. So a middle 6 winger decent PP guy , a 1st (because they're going to finals) , three prospects and a 5th isn't that bad. How couldn't other teams not beat that though? 🤔
- MattStrat


Just worried these prospects will be Kris Beech and Ross Lupaschuk. Welp, at least we have a rooting interest in the east I guess.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:47 PM ET
I’m annoyed with that return. No top prospect or guaranteed first?
- Brownsoldier

I didn't think we'd get a top prospect, but feels like a fail not to at least get a first. Curse DK for the false info on Morrow. I'd have still rather kept Jake, but at least been excited for him.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 7 @ 11:48 PM ET
Cruz Lucious sounds like someone Rocky would fight.
- chimpira


Hahaha... It's a sick name
abasin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.27.2018

Mar 7 @ 11:48 PM ET
Just worried these prospects will be Kris Beech and Ross Lupaschuk. Welp, at least we have a rooting interest in the east I guess.
- madmike71


We have the rigging of the lottery to look forward to as well. Unless the league wants to give Chicago B2B first overall picks, PIT is the most attractive team, minus MTL that just got a #1, to hand the pick to in the top 10.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 7 @ 11:53 PM ET
The Ty Smith thing actually bugs me because he was the centerpiece of the Marino deal

I had hoped he could be serviceable someday
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