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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 5 @ 9:55 AM ET
True. He was screwed over by 2 different Gzm’s on any real contract deal.
- lulags

I mean he basically said it in multiple interviews even before he was traded. Sabres really f@cked up those 5 years from 2016 to 21 even more than the other 8 of Sh!t.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 5 @ 9:59 AM ET
Last 5 years of trades and results of picks

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/sabres

- lulags


Think the Wild would take Greenway back for this guy...?

Nope is the answer.

https://www.eliteprospect...player/565748/riley-heidt
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Mar 5 @ 10:04 AM ET
Agreed.
As usual, in their contract year, players all of a sudden seem to play at the top of their game... Then they take their foot of the gas.
It will be interesting to see how Sam produces next season.

- IonSabres


Rhino is having an insane season, but he’s been very consistent in his time as a Panther. This year, everything is going in the net. His game isn’t predicated on his speed, it’s high hockey iq and sick hands. I think his game will hold up as he ages through his next contract. Not trying to knock rhino, but their PP is a pick your poison type of scenario for the defense, and 5v5 he has Barkov setting him up after he finds the open spot. Rhino has the hands to capitalize on his chances, I think those hands will age well. We’ll see how much playing on a very good team, a stacked team with good management while living in a nice climate is worth to him.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Mar 5 @ 10:19 AM ET
“Oh My F-n God!”
-rhino

I’m gonna watch this a few more dozen times
https://twitter.com/FlaPa...The-Assist%2F269%2F124519

How much is having that guy setting you up worth?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 5 @ 10:21 AM ET
Think the Wild would take Greenway back for this guy...?

Nope is the answer.

https://www.eliteprospect...player/565748/riley-heidt

- kingcong39

Please
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
“Oh My F-n God!”
-rhino

I’m gonna watch this a few more dozen times
https://twitter.com/FlaPa...The-Assist%2F269%2F124519

How much is having that guy setting you up worth?

- Ratsreign

He Stinks!🤪
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
“Oh My F-n God!”
-rhino

I’m gonna watch this a few more dozen times
https://twitter.com/FlaPa...The-Assist%2F269%2F124519

How much is having that guy setting you up worth?

- Ratsreign

https://youtu.be/ramfw02ZHEw?si=ldwUDEF7OZhKMepb
Let's go!
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Mar 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
He Stinks!🤪
- Buff36

To quote my mom, circa my high school days,

“Why does it smell like a skunk in here?”
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 5 @ 10:30 AM ET
To quote my mom, circa my high school days,

“Why does it smell like a skunk in here?”

- Ratsreign

I spit my Coffee out! Damn Rat, are you my Brother. My Mom thought one died in my Room.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Mar 5 @ 10:32 AM ET
I spit my Coffee out! Damn Rat, are you my Brother. My Mom thought one died in my Room.
- Buff36

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Mar 5 @ 10:40 AM ET
Rhino is having an insane season, but he’s been very consistent in his time as a Panther. This year, everything is going in the net. His game isn’t predicated on his speed, it’s high hockey iq and sick hands. I think his game will hold up as he ages through his next contract. Not trying to knock rhino, but their PP is a pick your poison type of scenario for the defense, and 5v5 he has Barkov setting him up after he finds the open spot. Rhino has the hands to capitalize on his chances, I think those hands will age well. We’ll see how much playing on a very good team, a stacked team with good management while living in a nice climate is worth to him.
- Ratsreign



I like the cat myself, always did. Those who don't are a little crazy, lol.

He is killing it on the PP for sure. Also, he has been shooting quite a bit more than when with the Sabres... And enjoying nearly 2x higher in Shot%. That 26% rate is crazy.
That's a winning proposition, shoot more (and shoot better?).
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Mar 5 @ 10:41 AM ET
“Oh My F-n God!”
-rhino

I’m gonna watch this a few more dozen times
https://twitter.com/FlaPa...The-Assist%2F269%2F124519

How much is having that guy setting you up worth?

- Ratsreign


$3.5m? We shall see.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Mar 5 @ 10:45 AM ET
Facebook and Instagram are down? Well I'm definitely not trying to do any actual work here
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Mar 5 @ 10:55 AM ET
Borgen coming back home?
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Mar 5 @ 10:57 AM ET
Rhino is having an insane season, but he’s been very consistent in his time as a Panther. This year, everything is going in the net. His game isn’t predicated on his speed, it’s high hockey iq and sick hands. I think his game will hold up as he ages through his next contract. Not trying to knock rhino, but their PP is a pick your poison type of scenario for the defense, and 5v5 he has Barkov setting him up after he finds the open spot. Rhino has the hands to capitalize on his chances, I think those hands will age well. We’ll see how much playing on a very good team, a stacked team with good management while living in a nice climate is worth to him.
- Ratsreign


I think my worry with him is the foot speed. IQ is great. Shot has really improved and passing has always been impeccable. However, if he loses a step, he's Matt Moulson real quick. Panthers can't trade him, need to resign but I'm curious what the cap hit will be. IMO he isn't taking that $7M contract folks were talking about in the offseason. I wonder if 9-10 is more in line at this point.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Mar 5 @ 10:58 AM ET
Borgen coming back home?
- QuinnFan


Do tell... Where you hearing that?
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Mar 5 @ 11:02 AM ET
Do tell... Where you hearing that?
- IonSabres


A bird told me that we were going back and forth with them, but another team is in the mix. Figured I'd ask here in case any of the "folks in the know" knew about this. Seemed odd to me that we'd reacquire an expansion casualty but he does fit the bill in a number of ways.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:03 AM ET
I think my worry with him is the foot speed. IQ is great. Shot has really improved and passing has always been impeccable. However, if he loses a step, he's Matt Moulson real quick. Panthers can't trade him, need to resign but I'm curious what the cap hit will be. IMO he isn't taking that $7M contract folks were talking about in the offseason. I wonder if 9-10 is more in line at this point.
- QuinnFan



Matt Moulson? Ouch. Playing style is similar but I think Sam has much more pride than Matt ever did.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 5 @ 11:07 AM ET
A bird told me that we were going back and forth with them, but another team is in the mix. Figured I'd ask here in case any of the "folks in the know" knew about this. Seemed odd to me that we'd reacquire an expansion casualty but he does fit the bill in a number of ways.
- QuinnFan

screams depth move for the nucks if on the block
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 5 @ 11:11 AM ET
A bird told me that we were going back and forth with them, but another team is in the mix. Figured I'd ask here in case any of the "folks in the know" knew about this. Seemed odd to me that we'd reacquire an expansion casualty but he does fit the bill in a number of ways.
- QuinnFan

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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 5 @ 11:12 AM ET
I think my worry with him is the foot speed..
- QuinnFan

do you worry about tage's footspeed?

not much different and honestly I never heard anyone complain about tage's speed

cap friendly scouting report has skunk at 79 for speed, same as girgens and tage at 80
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Mar 5 @ 11:13 AM ET
Matt Moulson? Ouch. Playing style is similar but I think Sam has much more pride than Matt ever did.
- Buffalo--Sabres


Pride doesn't make you skate faster unfortunately. Sam also gets a good bump up being with Barkov, if that goes away and the production falls back, a big contract could be an issue there.

Y'all know I love Sam. I just don't think he's worth 9-10M is all.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Mar 5 @ 11:14 AM ET
screams depth move for the nucks if on the block
- homiedclown


I can see him there or maybe the Panthers/Rangers? Honestly, no idea who the other team is.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 5 @ 11:16 AM ET
. I just don't think he's worth 9-10M is all.
- QuinnFan

there has not been a winger worth 9 mil since ovi and kane in their prime, other than maybe panarin
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Mar 5 @ 11:16 AM ET
do you worry about tage's footspeed?

not much different and honestly I never heard anyone complain about tage's speed

cap friendly scouting report has skunk at 79 for speed, same as girgens and tage at 80

- homiedclown


Tage I don't because he'll still have the shot. While Sam's has improved, he isn't the guy to beat goalies from range. I also think Tage is considerably faster. Looking at his play recently, in the Tampa OT game, he turned the jets on and forced the D to hook. He's still got a higher gear than Sam IMO. At the same point, Tage is also considerably bigger and harder to get off the puck. I don't think they're the best comparable, even if Matty Mo is being a bit unkind.
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