he is in his prime, not just coming into it.

sanheim got 8 years.
- hello it's me 2050

TK is just coming into his prime ... not every forward is in his prime at 24, every player is different.

Sanheim was a bad extension, but it does not mean the Flyers should never extend anybody.

Say it is 8 years, maybe for that type of cost certainty TK would take a lower AAV. Or maybe the Flyers give TK a higher AAV for less years. I'm sure there is a middle ground here that works for both sides. I agree signing a player like TK (who let's face it has had some injuries in his past) until age 36 or 37 would not be the best option for the Flyers. TK's current contract ends after next season. Maybe the Flyers extend him for 6 more after that at something close to $8M. I think that would be good for both sides. If some other team is willing to give him 8 years for more AAV, then Ok, the Flyers should let him go. But it's imperative both sides understand what they will accept now, so going into this off-season or next year's trade deadline, the Flyers have a plan in place.
- jd250

But why would TK not want max term to protect himself against those said injuries. If I were TK, I'd want max term and max pay for my level of player.

Say it is 8 years, maybe for that type of cost certainty TK would take a lower AAV. Or maybe the Flyers give TK a higher AAV for less years. I'm sure there is a middle ground here that works for both sides. I agree signing a player like TK (who let's face it has had some injuries in his past) until age 36 or 37 would not be the best option for the Flyers. TK's current contract ends after next season. Maybe the Flyers extend him for 6 more after that at something close to $8M. I think that would be good for both sides. If some other team is willing to give him 8 years for more AAV, then Ok, the Flyers should let him go. But it's imperative both sides understand what they will accept now, so going into this off-season or next year's trade deadline, the Flyers have a plan in place.
- jd250

You're kidding yourself if you think this is going to be less than 8 years with the Flyers. It could potentially be his last contract. First you're spewing all kinds of rhetoric and criticizing those who don't want Konecny re-signed. Now here you are saying signing him, to an 8 year deal, which is what it will be, is not the best option for the Flyers. Which is it? Did you think any of this through before posting your nonsense? Of course you didn't.

Maybe we’ll get lucky and tk will be foung to have some skeletons in the closet as well and we won’t have to worry about it.

Seriously, do you think TK gets a teams number one sure fire likely superstar prospect? More likely he’ll get you a late first and maybe mid level prospect. Basically a lottery ticket to hope you hit on.
- Hextall271

Exactly, why go for a lottery ticket when you know you got a very good all around player (not elite) that plays the right way? Though the odds are better if you do, a team does not have to draft in the top 5 to get an elite player. We have seen this over and over again.

Exactly, why go for a lottery ticket when you know you got a very good all around player (not elite) that plays the right way? Though the odds are better if you do, a team does not have to draft in the top 5 to get an elite player. We have seen this over and over again.
- jd250

You screamed from the highest hills over and over how the Flyers had to get a top 5 pick. Posting against anyone who claimed differently. Now here you are waffling. What happened to Konecny being the heart of soul of the Flyers? The face of the franchise? You clearly have no clue what a face of the franchise player is.

You're kidding yourself if you think this is going to be less than 8 years with the Flyers. It could potentially be his last contract. First you're spewing all kinds of rhetoric and criticizing those who don't want Konecny re-signed. Now here you are saying signing him, to an 8 year deal, which is what it will be, is not the best option for the Flyers. Which is it? Did you think any of this through before posting your nonsense? Of course you didn't.
- MJL

As I stated, signing TK for 8 more years taking him to 36 or 37 is not ideal. However the Flyers can still work with this length of contract IF 1. they can negotiate a lower AAV and 2. limit the no trade clause so the Flyers have flexibility to trade TK at some point in the future if they wanted to.

The length of term is NOT the only factor here, nor is TK's age. That is what you and others here don't get. TK is not going to return an elite young player. He is going to return lottery tickets, and I for one would rather take the sure thing in this case.

Say it is 8 years, maybe for that type of cost certainty TK would take a lower AAV. Or maybe the Flyers give TK a higher AAV for less years. I'm sure there is a middle ground here that works for both sides. I agree signing a player like TK (who let's face it has had some injuries in his past) until age 36 or 37 would not be the best option for the Flyers. TK's current contract ends after next season. Maybe the Flyers extend him for 6 more after that at something close to $8M. I think that would be good for both sides. If some other team is willing to give him 8 years for more AAV, then Ok, the Flyers should let him go. But it's imperative both sides understand what they will accept now, so going into this off-season or next year's trade deadline, the Flyers have a plan in place.
- jd250

it is laughable to think he will take a discount in term or money. close to 8 million is also laughable. he will exceed that.

Exactly, why go for a lottery ticket when you know you got a very good all around player (not elite) that plays the right way? Though the odds are better if you do, a team does not have to draft in the top 5 to get an elite player. We have seen this over and over again.
- jd250

It just has to fit the window. Is the window 10’year? If that’s the plan then, yes. Don’t sign him and trade him now for whatever you can get. If it’s 3 to 5, he can be a part. If you sign him to 7 years, make sure there’s no. NTC. If his play dips or you don’t think he fits, send him out

TK is just coming into his prime ... not every forward is in his prime at 24, every player is different.

Sanheim was a bad extension, but it does not mean the Flyers should never extend anybody.
- jd250

he is already in his prime. TK is not 24

it is laughable to think he will take a discount in term or money. close to 8 million is also laughable. he will exceed that.
- hello it's me 2050

I think I heard the same thing before Couts was extended ... and look what happened.

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Rebuild over...I have been a fan since March of 1980, and I am getting so tired of the same mistakes happening over and over. Signing TK is a mistake...he is a decent forward, but not an 8 year contract player, and I am sure he will be overpaid. Signing Seeler is not needed either. They never learn. The events that are unfolding with this team...I dunno....has me questioning if I am going to follow the team much longer. If this turns out to be true, I think I will officially lose what little faith I have left in the team.

I have been holding out, hoping they will make the right moves, the hard decisions, and really actually stick to a rebuild and doing things the right way. The right way does not seem to be the Flyers way. I am also disgusted with Briere's lies. He has lied constantly since he took office, so why should anyone take his comments on the rebuild seriously.
- TheFreak

The sad fact is the Flyers suffer from an extreme case of group think. They never bring anyone into the fold who is an out of the box thinker. They never have swayed from the fact that they really believe they are, not only a playoff team, but a SC contender. They will make moves (or not make moves) with this premise in mind, and when they ultimately fail in epic proportions, they will feed us the line "we had to try for the people in the room". For some reason they feel like they owe the people in the room. The same people who have not been good enough for the last decade.

Exactly, why go for a lottery ticket when you know you got a very good all around player (not elite) that plays the right way? Though the odds are better if you do, a team does not have to draft in the top 5 to get an elite player. We have seen this over and over again.
- jd250

the good ole plays the right way buzz word.

team aint good enough with TK, so yeah lets keep him for 8 more years.

It just has to fit the window. Is the window 10’year? If that’s the plan then, yes. Don’t sign him and trade him now for whatever you can get. If it’s 3 to 5, he can be a part. If you sign him to 7 years, make sure there’s no. NTC. If his play dips or you don’t think he fits, send him out
- Hextall271

Honestly, the window is not 10 years and if it took 10 years Hilferty on down should be fired. The Flyers should be able to get back to prominence within 3-5 years. They have some good players on this team, good players in their system and a lot of draft capital (especially after this deadline). With smart moves they should be legitimately competing sooner than later, especially IF and when Michkov comes over.

Yes, I would keep the guys you listed. I'd listen to offers though.
- MJL

To be clear, I always listen to offers. Always. If it’s an overpay, do it at once. It’s also important to let the young players develop to see exactly what you have. Sometimes these guys take off and a star is born. Look at bee. What exactly is his ceiling? Healthy and improving a lot.

it is laughable to think he will take a discount in term or money. close to 8 million is also laughable. he will exceed that.
- hello it's me 2050

Even if he takes 10-15% less than market value I still want to trade him. Flyers NEED top level talent. Keep adding picks and prospects. Draft well and develop. Keep cap flexibility to take advantage of teams in the future. I like TK but he is not the guy you build around.

They need a lot more talent outside of Michkov.

As I stated, signing TK for 8 more years taking him to 36 or 37 is not ideal. However the Flyers can still work with this length of contract IF 1. they can negotiate a lower AAV and 2. limit the no trade clause so the Flyers have flexibility to trade TK at some point in the future if they wanted to.

The length of term is NOT the only factor here, nor is TK's age. That is what you and others here don't get. TK is not going to return an elite young player. He is going to return lottery tickets, and I for one would rather take the sure thing in this case.
- jd250

You were posting rhetoric and ridiculous nonsense just a short time ago. How you're sick and tired of people. How he is the face of the franchise and all that other BS. He has UFA leverage. Unless he is very generous, he is going to get 8 years. Around a 8M AAV and trade and movement protection. Count on it.

It's pretty clear, you're the guy who doesn't get it! As you're now changing your position after your absurd knee jerk reaction.

I think I heard the same thing before Couts was extended ... and look what happened.
- jd250

what happened? got max term. got paid. did he take less? I dont know that?

he also came up through the CC club and likes the no pressure environment. winning is secondary.

so when TK gets 8 year and more than 8 million what will your take be? Assuming he isnt traded. If he wants to win he will test free agency.

the good ole plays the right way buzz word.

team aint good enough with TK, so yeah lets keep him for 8 more years.
- hello it's me 2050

This team is better than it was last year, and way better than it was two years ago. They are taking steps forward. TK has proven he is part of the solution here, not part of the problem.

what happened? got max term. got paid. did he take less? I dont know that?

he also came up through the CC club and likes the no pressure environment. winning is secondary.

so when TK gets 8 year and more than 8 million what will your take be? Assuming he isnt traded. If he wants to win he will test free agency.
- hello it's me 2050

Did anyone think Couts would extend for less than $8M AAV? I sure didn't.

I think I heard the same thing before Couts was extended ... and look what happened.
- jd250

That was three years ago. TK's new contract is over 2 years away before it kicks in. That will be 5 years between one signing and the other with the cap up significantly in the interim.

I think I heard the same thing before Couts was extended ... and look what happened.
- jd250

LOL, yea, he got 8 years at 7.75M. His contract was signed in August of 2021. Konecny will at best sign his deal in July of 2024. Almost 3 years difference. Do you think player salaries have escalated in that time frame? You really don't get it do you?

You were posting rhetoric and ridiculous nonsense just a short time ago. How you're sick and tired of people. How he is the face of the franchise and all that other BS. He has UFA leverage. Unless he is very generous, he is going to get 8 years. Around a 8M AAV and trade and movement protection. Count on it.

It's pretty clear, you're the guy who doesn't get it! As you're now changing your position after your absurd knee jerk reaction.
- MJL

There is no change here at all ... just in your own little fantasy world on planet Delusia!

I’m all for a Tippett extension. He’s under 24 (or is 24) Speed and size. The potential is there for 30-40 goals. Travis Konency is the perfect asset to add to Tippett, Farabee, Drysdale and Frost. Maybe make up for the loss of Gauthier.

Honestly, the window is not 10 years and if it took 10 years Hilferty on down should be fired. The Flyers should be able to get back to prominence within 3-5 years. They have some good players on this team, good players in their system and a lot of draft capital (especially after this deadline). With smart moves they should be legitimately competing sooner than later, especially IF and when Michkov comes over.
- jd250

One team I am always amazed by is Boston. They never really go into a rebuild, at least I can’t think of one since like 2000. They lose chara. Np. Lose bergy, Tuuka krejci. Don’t miss a beat. Draft later due to continuous success and more importantly develop players properly. Ullmark. Average goalie with Buffalo becomes incredible. I haven’t been able to fully figure it out but it’s incredible. They draft so smartly and find a guy like pasta who many teams passed on. Shows that you don’t need to do a full tear down rebuild to have a contender. Amass picks and hope you hit on them.

This team is better than it was last year, and way better than it was two years ago. They are taking steps forward. TK has proven he is part of the solution here, not part of the problem.
- jd250

low bar the last 2 years, not impressed. They are so far away from contention you are to blind to see and admit it.

no he hasn't prove he is part of the solution. I wanted him and all the other leftover core gone. Cant do that say the flyers. Just extend is the easy solution.