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QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Dec 15 @ 2:33 PM ET
64 goals and 148 points over the last 2 seasons

I doubt a few boos after a coach got fired is going to let you steal him from the blues

- homiedclown


Fair. I figured Skinns would at least help mask it a bit, he has produced well since his dumpster fire season post Eichel. Might be too much to hope for. His contract may be a bit too much for us to carry long term anyways.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 15 @ 2:34 PM ET
bottom 2 lines are terrible
- homiedclown


Yes.

JJ Peterka and Zach Benson are on the Sabres’ first power-play unit with Skinner out.

Casey Mittelstadt is with the other group, along with Power, Olofsson, Okposo and Cozens.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Dec 15 @ 2:34 PM ET
No denying Kyrou has talent, but everything I’ve read up on him is that he seems unmotivated too often and it’s obvious he had issues with Berube. He certainly would fit in perfectly here with the many lazy, uninspired hockey players we have. That being said, I wouldn’t entertain any trade unless they took Skinner with the Sabres retaining a bit of salary if needed. We have enough head cases on the team
- Cory1


I just didn't hear this much until his production plunged this year and there was trouble with Berube. If he's that much of a basket case, then passing is right, agreed.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Dec 15 @ 2:35 PM ET
Sabres’ lines and pairs at the morning skate in Vegas:

Benson-Thompson-Tuch
Cozens-Mittelstadt-Peterka
Robinson-Krebs-Okposo
Murray-Jost-Olofsson

Dahlin-Samuelsson
Power-Jokiharju
Ryan Johnson /Erik Johnson - Clifton

Quinn, Greenway Bryson rotated in. Might be an 11-7 night.

Levi in net.

- washedup20


What's your 2024-25 lineup hopes? I'm curious what you'd do with the forward lines to get the points flowing again.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 15 @ 2:42 PM ET
I've always said, you're one that gets it!

Got any offseason adds you're pining for? I know Stammer probably won't happen, I just can't get away from the idea lol. HBU?

- QuinnFan

He would bring a Mentality this Club is sorely lacking, could be worth it just for that. No I was hoping not to have to start looking at that this early player wise. They need some grit that can play.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Dec 15 @ 2:44 PM ET
bottom 2 lines are terrible
- homiedclown


As its been for the last 2 months
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 15 @ 2:55 PM ET
What's your 2024-25 lineup hopes? I'm curious what you'd do with the forward lines to get the points flowing again.
- QuinnFan


I'm trading Power, Savoie and 24' 1st for Crosby

I'm then putting Adams lake boat into the Atlantic and tell him I have a gift for him due east.

I'm implementing a rule that Granato can't enter the arena for any reason until he eats a full plate of pasta at Franks Sunny Italy (impossible).

I'm signing Stamkos, and trading Mitts, Rosen and Whalberg for Tom Wilson.

I'm trading UPL/Stillman to the Oilers for Broberg and draft picks

I'm paying Vincent Desharnais, Pat Maroon, Brett Pesce and DeSmith in UFA.

Peterka Crosby Tuch
Quinn Stamkos Wilson
Skinner Tage Cozens
Greenway Krebs Maroon

Dahlin Pesce
R Johnson Samuelsson
Desharnais Broberg

Levi/DeSmith

The first preseason game I am making the team bring me back blood from the other team.



Cory1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 11.13.2016

Dec 15 @ 2:59 PM ET
I just didn't hear this much until his production plunged this year and there was trouble with Berube. If he's that much of a basket case, then passing is right, agreed.
- QuinnFan


He also has a full NMC, his salary averages out to 8.125 million. It’s fun to project potential trades etc… but in reality, Kyrou is stuck in St.Louis and they are stuck with him. He’s only 25, skilled but mercurial….
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Dec 15 @ 2:59 PM ET
He would bring a Mentality this Club is sorely lacking, could be worth it just for that. No I was hoping not to have to start looking at that this early player wise. They need some grit that can play.
- Buff36


Couldn't agree more and well said.
Cory1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 11.13.2016

Dec 15 @ 3:02 PM ET
I'm trading Power, Savoie and 24' 1st for Crosby

I'm then putting Adams lake boat into the Atlantic and tell him I have a gift for him due east.

I'm implementing a rule that Granato can't enter the arena for any reason until he eats a full plate of pasta at Franks Sunny Italy (impossible).

I'm signing Stamkos, and trading Mitts, Rosen and Whalberg for Tom Wilson.

I'm trading UPL/Stillman to the Oilers for Broberg and draft picks

I'm paying Vincent Desharnais, Pat Maroon, Brett Pesce and DeSmith in UFA.

Peterka Crosby Tuch
Quinn Stamkos Wilson
Skinner Tage Cozens
Greenway Krebs Maroon

Dahlin Pesce
R Johnson Samuelsson
Desharnais Broberg

Levi/DeSmith

The first preseason game I am making the team bring me back blood from the other team.

- washedup20


That’s Gold!
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Dec 15 @ 3:13 PM ET
I'm trading Power, Savoie and 24' 1st for Crosby

I'm then putting Adams lake boat into the Atlantic and tell him I have a gift for him due east.

I'm implementing a rule that Granato can't enter the arena for any reason until he eats a full plate of pasta at Franks Sunny Italy (impossible).

I'm signing Stamkos, and trading Mitts, Rosen and Whalberg for Tom Wilson.

I'm trading UPL/Stillman to the Oilers for Broberg and draft picks

I'm paying Vincent Desharnais, Pat Maroon, Brett Pesce and DeSmith in UFA.

Peterka Crosby Tuch
Quinn Stamkos Wilson
Skinner Tage Cozens
Greenway Krebs Maroon

Dahlin Pesce
R Johnson Samuelsson
Desharnais Broberg

Levi/DeSmith

The first preseason game I am making the team bring me back blood from the other team.

- washedup20


I like your lineup better than mine, but the means at which you get to it is even better lol.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
As its been for the last 2 months
- DirtyDan

QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Dec 15 @ 4:21 PM ET

- homiedclown


Nobody knows who Steve Winwood is, so you killed chat.

Say something witty, homie. Get us back on the right track.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 15 @ 4:23 PM ET
Nobody knows who Steve Winwood is, so you killed chat.

Say something witty, homie. Get us back on the right track.

- QuinnFan

82 points this season seems to be a stretch

do heads roll with a 74 point season?
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Dec 15 @ 4:33 PM ET
Yes.

JJ Peterka and Zach Benson are on the Sabres’ first power-play unit with Skinner out.

Casey Mittelstadt is with the other group, along with Power, Olofsson, Okposo and Cozens.

- washedup20


Time to see if I’m right or wrong when it comes to the personnel side of PP1.

If you remember our discussion from the other evening
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Dec 15 @ 4:34 PM ET
What's your 2024-25 lineup hopes? I'm curious what you'd do with the forward lines to get the points flowing again.
- QuinnFan


Fire the existing coaching staff into the sun is a good start.

Either that or they have an epiphany and get the team being good off the rush again.

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Dec 15 @ 4:47 PM ET
At least they finally sat EJ amirite
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Dec 15 @ 4:57 PM ET
82 points this season seems to be a stretch

do heads roll with a 74 point season?

- homiedclown


That's a good question. I really wonder tbh, they SHOULD, but there's a lot in-between should and will. I'd imagine Meatballs goes first but even that is a question after KA's missing offseason.

OOC, would you fire Meatballs or KA first, if you could only pick one?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Dec 15 @ 4:58 PM ET
That's a good question. I really wonder tbh, they SHOULD, but there's a lot in-between should and will. I'd imagine Meatballs goes first but even that is a question after KA's missing offseason.

OOC, would you fire Meatballs or KA first, if you could only pick one?

- QuinnFan


Guys a buffoon.

Can't even make simple changes to a PP.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Dec 15 @ 4:59 PM ET
Fire the existing coaching staff into the sun is a good start.

Either that or they have an epiphany and get the team being good off the rush again.

- Swedish_Jesus


So you wouldn't change much outside the coaching staff? Obv with my lineups, there's 2-3 changes, so I'm of the mind that we have a team that COULD win here. But do you think less is needed in terms of personnel?
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Dec 15 @ 4:59 PM ET
At least they finally sat EJ amirite
- DirtyDan


Yeah, he needs to just go away. How did he talk KA into 3M+ again?
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Dec 15 @ 5:12 PM ET
So you wouldn't change much outside the coaching staff? Obv with my lineups, there's 2-3 changes, so I'm of the mind that we have a team that COULD win here. But do you think less is needed in terms of personnel?
- QuinnFan


Benson-Tage-Tuch
Skinner-Mittelstadt-Quinn
Kulich/Rosen-Cozens-Peterka
Greenway-Krebs-______

Dahlin-_______
Power- R Johnson
Samuelsson-Joker/Clifton

Savoie I think spends some time in the AHL to get time at the professional level, one of Rosen/Kulich should be dealt for a Top 4 d-man.

I imagine a depth Larry signing to go with Greenway and Krebs.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 15 @ 5:25 PM ET
I am starting to miss Tim Murray.

At least he was entertaining even when we lost.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 15 @ 5:29 PM ET
Fire the existing coaching staff into the sun is a good start.

Either that or they have an epiphany and get the team being good off the rush again.

- Swedish_Jesus

The problem is and I believe Homer when he says it both Adams and Granato's jobs are safe and thats a real issue.


The team is very undisciplined. If you look at that twitter clip and ask yourself what role does Granato play on this team then you see a deeper issue when you watch it. Each individual mistake is the players fault but as a whole its Granato's fault. The team is just not disciplined and I mean that two ways. They are not disciplined for their mistakes and they don't play disciplined hockey because the mistakes are often. The good vibes schtick has worn off. If the losing continues I think we will start to see players giving up on each other and Granato losing the team.

Kind of feels like we are at a fork in the road and either these guys turn it around or Granato loses the team.

After 13 years of losing it kind of feels like losing has become acceptable in the locker room and management has made it this way.


washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 15 @ 5:37 PM ET
Time to see if I’m right or wrong when it comes to the personnel side of PP1.

If you remember our discussion from the other evening

- Swedish_Jesus



I do, and I hope your right
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