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TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:23 PM ET
Well Mr. R. I will take Seth Jones at his word when he demonstrates on the ice that he has turned a leaf and is now playing a solid, smart game inside of both bluelines. Not spectacular, just a stable game with speed and a level of physicality that he is very capable of. Play a Drew Doughty type of game, for example. He will still play big minutes.

But my guess is Jones probably prefers to play a different game - higher risk, carry the puck on end to end rushes, notch a lot of points. Whatever it takes to justify the contract and salary. (But I could be wrong).

Prior to Chicago, Jones has played under 3 very experienced NHL coaches who know the game - Barry Trotz, Peter Laviolette and John Tortorella. A true #1 defenceman doesn't usually find himself being moved more than once, let alone twice. Wonder what those coaches thought of his game and how it fit their teams?

Jones isn't ever going to be a Viktor Hedman or Kale Makar or Quinn Hughes or Erik Karlsson. But if he can evolve into a player closer to Alex Pietrangelo or Brent Burns then the Hawks will get some value out of employing him.

- RickJ


Jones is 11 years into his pro career. Expecting him to evolve into anything other than what he currently is is just pure folly. He will never be Burns or Pietrangelo or anyone else.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Dec 7 @ 3:50 PM ET
The odds have always been against Soderblom being an NHLer. Undrafted he had a good yr in the Svedish AHL and the next yr in the Svedish bigs (SHL) so the Hawks signed him.

But he has the size at 6ft 3in, did show well in those two yrs mentioned, 1 good yr in the AHL so he was a reasonable swing cuz you just never now, especially with goalies.

- Mr Ricochet


Goalies in the new era can get up to the pros and never look towards the minors, but so many simply need the time, experience, and strength to not quit on themselves. From Soderblom first call-ups there is something that shows through, whereas the likes of Anton Forsberg, and Collin Delia exuded little confidence in me seeing there was an upside.
The kid was a champion goalie in Sweden when he was with Frölunda HC at 16 in the U18 Allsvenskan championship series.
He's only 24.(The same age as Justin Fields.) In my humble opinion he is good technical goalie who sees and handles the shots from the home plate well, and he only has upside at this point.

The fact that he is playing with a bad NHL team really doesn't make it easier.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Dec 7 @ 4:17 PM ET
Ehhh i keep Murphy unless you can get a deal like you did for McCabe and Lafferty. He does serve a purpose, he's going to make Vlasic and KK better defenseman in a way.
- BetweenTheDots

So you think you can get a first rounder for murphy? At best a fourth rounder.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Dec 7 @ 4:30 PM ET
Goalies in the new era can get up to the pros and never look towards the minors, but so many simply need the time, experience, and strength to not quit on themselves. From Soderblom first call-ups there is something that shows through, whereas the likes of Anton Forsberg, and Collin Delia exuded little confidence in me seeing there was an upside.
The kid was a champion goalie in Sweden when he was with Frölunda HC at 16 in the U18 Allsvenskan championship series.
He's only 24.(The same age as Justin Fields.) In my humble opinion he is good technical goalie who sees and handles the shots from the home plate well, and he only has upside at this point.

The fact that he is playing with a bad NHL team really doesn't make it easier.

- wiz1901


I'm rootin for Soderblom, Wiz. And you aren't the only one that thinks he's got some technical knowhow. Panger does too...... He was interviewed on The Athletic Hockey Show a couple days ago. For those who don't have a subscription you can get all of their podcasts on Spotify for free, and I guess all over. Here's a link to the Panger interview which I found very very good. Pang is on at 34:15.

https://open.spotify.com/...de/42l8AVgK1a9OpJl2CJVc5U
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Dec 7 @ 5:00 PM ET
Lineup for tonight's game per Ben Pope twitter. 4RD in the lineup so Murphy is playing left side.


Blackhawks lines vs Ducks:

Beauvillier-Bedard-Kurashev
TJohnson-Guttman-Raddysh
Foligno-Richardinson-Anderson
Reichel-Donato-Entwistle

Korchinski-Jones
Murphy-Zaitsev
Vlasic-Crevier

Mrazek

- boilermaker100

That's not going to end well.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Dec 7 @ 5:13 PM ET

Lineup for tonight's game per Ben Pope twitter. 4RD in the lineup so Murphy is playing left side.


Blackhawks lines vs Ducks:

Beauvillier-Bedard-Kurashev
TJohnson-Guttman-Raddysh
Foligno-Richardinson-Anderson
Reichel-Donato-Entwistle

Korchinski-Jones
Murphy-Zaitsev
Vlasic-Crevier

Mrazek
- boilermaker100

That's not going to end well.
- scottak


What’s the over under on plus/minus tonight for that pair?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 7 @ 5:57 PM ET
So you think you can get a first rounder for murphy? At best a fourth rounder.
- LFS


If they retain salary and add another player sure, 1st and a 2nd. Like i said he serves a purpose for this team plays a lot of minutes but is a liability in his own end. No one likes to admit it but he provides an avenue to a top 3 pick. Win win, well not literally winning games but you know what i mean.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Dec 7 @ 6:04 PM ET
Was hoping ANA's 2nd overall pick Carlsson would play tonight and Bamford is reporting he will!! https://www.bleachernatio...oadcast-info-game-thread/

Alex Killorn – Leo Carlsson – Troy Terry
Frank Vatrano – Ryan Strome – Jakob Silfverberg
Max Jones – Adam Henrique – Benoit-Olivier Groulx
Brock McGinn – Sam Carrick – Brett Leason

Cam Fowler – Tristan Luneau
Pavel Mintyukov – Ilya Lyubushkin
Jackson LaCombe – Radko Gudas

🥅 John Gibson
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 7 @ 6:09 PM ET
So you think you can get a first rounder for murphy? At best a fourth rounder.
- LFS


Maybe a conditional 3rd if Chicago retains 50%.

I think Murphy has value, maybe not as much as last season but there still is value. Is there more value in trading him or keeping him? While Murphy is clearly struggling he'd need to be replaced, which would cost assets. If KD can magically upgrade Murphy for less than the assets acquired in trading him, then go for it. Otherwise, stick with Murphy and improve your tank standings.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Dec 7 @ 6:28 PM ET
Lineup for tonight's game per Ben Pope twitter. 4RD in the lineup so Murphy is playing left side.


Blackhawks lines vs Ducks:

Beauvillier-Bedard-Kurashev
TJohnson-Guttman-Raddysh
Foligno-Richardinson-Anderson
Reichel-Donato-Entwistle

Korchinski-Jones
Murphy-Zaitsev
Vlasic-Crevier

Mrazek
- boilermaker100



What’s the over under on plus/minus tonight for that pair?

- Angotti

-2.5
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Dec 7 @ 6:32 PM ET
Maybe a conditional 3rd if Chicago retains 50%.

I think Murphy has value, maybe not as much as last season but there still is value. Is there more value in trading him or keeping him? While Murphy is clearly struggling he'd need to be replaced, which would cost assets. If KD can magically upgrade Murphy for less than the assets acquired in trading him, then go for it. Otherwise, stick with Murphy and improve your tank standings.

- DarthKane

I’d bring the 2 kids back up, put Murphy in the Press Box and send Z to the Rock. The rooks need the NHL reps.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Dec 7 @ 6:37 PM ET
In the Blackhawks charity auction that ends today, a Stalock worn, signed mask has a current bid of $2,650. That’s a heck of a charity write off.

A Hossa signed red uniform sweater is only $900.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Dec 7 @ 8:02 PM ET
Jones is 11 years into his pro career. Expecting him to evolve into anything other than what he currently is is just pure folly. He will never be Burns or Pietrangelo or anyone else.
- TheTrob

Once at the zoo when I was a kid I saw a leopard change its spots. My mother said it was pure folly and took me to an eye doctor.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Dec 7 @ 8:04 PM ET
Is Gord Miller the best PBP Man alive? ......... Yo Leaf despizers, how's My Guy Woll look tonight? Good chance ya'll will hate the kid for 15 yrs.

And Wiz, with respect to you and Panger Woll is what I'd call technical with a bunch of athleticism to back that up when things get funky.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Dec 7 @ 8:05 PM ET
Watched the first period of Wings/Sharks game, and the Sharks looked decent. With the three vets that the Hawks have lost in the past month, they just may be the worst team in the NHL right now. Hopefully KD is done tanking after this year and has better plan for 24/25.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Dec 7 @ 8:06 PM ET
Once at the zoo when I was a kid I saw a leopard change its spots. My mother said it was pure folly and took me to an eye doctor.
- RickJ


Line drives ever since? ........ Stutzle a top 5 player yet, Rick? Any word on Chabot?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Dec 7 @ 8:10 PM ET
Watched the first period of Wings/Sharks game, and the Sharks looked decent. With the three vets that the Hawks have lost in the past month, they just may be the worst team in the NHL right now. Hopefully KD is done tanking after this year and has better plan for 24/25.
- Angotti


Despite the pain it's damn fun to follow this rebuild. Despite the rocky stretch I could not be happier with all the rooks and now I sit here before puck drop excited to see Crevier.

Takes some effort but following so many legit prospects is all part of it.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Dec 7 @ 8:29 PM ET
Despite the pain it's damn fun to follow this rebuild. Despite the rocky stretch I could not be happier with all the rooks and now I sit here before puck drop excited to see Crevier.

Takes some effort but following so many legit prospects is all part of it.

- Mr Ricochet

It is fun to follow, would like to see a couple of young forwards next year, either current prospects or through a trade, but young being the key word. By the way 4-1 Wings now, so much for the Sharks looking decent.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Dec 7 @ 8:35 PM ET
Pts per game: Bedard .83, Carlsson .76.
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Dec 7 @ 8:36 PM ET
Let's Go Hawks! Bedard vs Carlson should be a fun watch.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Dec 7 @ 8:36 PM ET
It is fun to follow, would like to see a couple of young forwards next year, either current prospects or through a trade, but young being the key word. By the way 4-1 Wings now, so much for the Sharks looking decent.
- Angotti


Oh yea, Kaner is playing his first game as a Wing? How's he look?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Dec 7 @ 8:39 PM ET
Let's Go Hawks! Bedard vs Carlson should be a fun watch.
- SaskHawkFan


Just noticed, no McTavish tonight. Love watching that kid play. No Zegras either.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 7 @ 8:44 PM ET
Murphy and Zaitsev, hahaha
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 7 @ 8:50 PM ET
Murphy and Zaitsev, hahaha
- BetweenTheDots

Is the Murphy you’re laughing at the same one you think brings back a first round pick?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 7 @ 8:51 PM ET
Is the Murphy you’re laughing at the same one you think brings back a first round pick?
- paulr


Just laughing at the pairing, Zaitsev 2nd shift already in the box

If McCabe + can get us a 1st and 2nd anything is possible
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