Soderblom is basically a shooter tutor in this shootout.

By points, the Hawks have sole possession of last place in the league.

Nice game from Jones, Vlasic, KK, Guttman, and the third line.
- Angotti

Beauvillier has looked pretty good since joining the team, I thought he was decent tonight and a pretty good on the forecheck to win races in to get pucks.

Beauvillier has looked pretty good since joining the team, I thought he was decent tonight and a pretty good on the forecheck to win races in to get pucks.
- breadbag

Think they can find a jersey that fits him? He looks like a Squirt out there.

Nice game from Jones, Vlasic, KK, Guttman, and the third line.
- Angotti

Oh I was looking forward to seeing a nice game too from Crevier

He will find his way into the lineup on a regular basis next year hopefully/mist likely (choose)

Crevier wouldn’t be worse than Tinordi, Zaitsev and Murphy too

Other: Commesso too surrendered goals in bushels lately. Icehogs have a loosing streak and btw Roos is missing/must be injured

The crazy part is the forwards not covering for the dmen is a big issue at least once a game that's why we lead the league in most man advantages against.

I do believe they are trying a new thing, being aggressive at the blue line. We saw Kaiser and Vlasic get schooled.
- BetweenTheDots

I saw too many giveaways tonight. Too many missed passes. Too many failures to move the puck out of the zone. Too many wrong decisions with the puck. Some mistakes, you just know they are about to pay for them. This game seemed winnable, unlike a lot of the games we've watched already, so it wasn't all bad.

Soderblom is basically a shooter tutor in this shootout.
- Dieselhead

No - no he's not- that first one against, is not where the 5 hole is on a shooter tutor. . . (from the place that regularly cannot find 2 goalies for drop ins... or it used to be that way - probably still is).

Or put differently, a shooter tutor stops that first one, unfortunately.

By points, the Hawks have sole possession of last place in the league.
- DarthKane

Tankathon still has the boys in 2nd based on points percentage since San Jose has two games in hand.

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Correction - Hawks have the two games in hand.

Tankathon still has the boys in 2nd based on points percentage since San Jose has two games in hand.

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- boilermaker100

While I'm still hoping for the best draft position in 2024 I'm not as worried about it as last year. Top 2 would be ideal, top 5 is expected.

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No - no he's not- that first one against, is not where the 5 hole is on a shooter tutor. . . (from the place that regularly cannot find 2 goalies for drop ins... or it used to be that way - probably still is).

Or put differently, a shooter tutor stops that first one, unfortunately.
- SC116

At what point does the team say that Soderblom just isn't an NHL goalie? He's had good parts within a game, but very few complete games and even fewer consecutive complete games.

In 30 career games Soderblom has only 4 wins, a GAA of 3.66 and SV% of .887. Granted, he's played on some pretty bad teams, but even Mrazek has had better numbers.

At what point does the team say that Soderblom just isn't an NHL goalie? He's had good parts within a game, but very few complete games and even fewer consecutive complete games.

In 30 career games Soderblom has only 4 wins, a GAA of 3.66 and SV% of .887. Granted, he's played on some pretty bad teams, but even Mrazek has had better numbers.
- DarthKane

When they have a better prospect, and when they're more concerned with the standings.

At what point does the team say that Soderblom just isn't an NHL goalie? He's had good parts within a game, but very few complete games and even fewer consecutive complete games.

In 30 career games Soderblom has only 4 wins, a GAA of 3.66 and SV% of .887. Granted, he's played on some pretty bad teams, but even Mrazek has had better numbers.
- DarthKane

This is his age 24 season. Looking at the stats for the Rockford goalies, neither one seems ready for a callup, either.

Soderblom had zero chance last night on any of the three goals scored by Nashville. All three scored in the second period, were by a player standing in front of the net behind the Hawks defender. Murphy, Tinordi, and Zaitsev were atrocious last night in their end.

As far as the overall goaltending, Mrazek won't be here when they turn this thing around, and they need to see what they have in Soderblom. Their future is elsewhere in the system, and throwing that future goalie out behind this team probably does more harm than good.

The Blackhawks have every sign of an incomplete team. The expectations of playing a complete game are so far off for this group because they simply do not have a full team to compete against the majority of their opponents. This year is shaping up to be exactly what I think any logical Blackhawks fan should have expected. They are a one-man show offensively. Losing Hall and Perry makes a rough offensive group significantly worse. These random blow out losses are a product of them having a lot of young players and a ton of guys who would be playing on the 3rd and 4th lines of many other NHL teams.

Soderblom had zero chance last night on any of the three goals scored by Nashville. All three scored in the second period, were by a player standing in front of the net behind the Hawks defender. Murphy, Tinordi, and Zaitsev were atrocious last night in their end.

As far as the overall goaltending, Mrazek won't be here when they turn this thing around, and they need to see what they have in Soderblom. Their future is elsewhere in the system, and throwing that future goalie out behind this team probably does more harm than good.

The Blackhawks have every sign of an incomplete team. The expectations of playing a complete game are so far off for this group because they simply do not have a full team to compete against the majority of their opponents. This year is shaping up to be exactly what I think any logical Blackhawks fan should have expected. They are a one-man show offensively. Losing Hall and Perry makes a rough offensive group significantly worse. These random blow out losses are a product of them having a lot of young players and a ton of guys who would be playing on the 3rd and 4th lines of many other NHL teams.
- frafra

Amen, Fra.

At what point does the team say that Soderblom just isn't an NHL goalie? He's had good parts within a game, but very few complete games and even fewer consecutive complete games.

In 30 career games Soderblom has only 4 wins, a GAA of 3.66 and SV% of .887. Granted, he's played on some pretty bad teams, but even Mrazek has had better numbers.
- DarthKane

Are Mrazek's numbers really that much better? He has a few more wins, but over these last two seasons nearly the same SV% and slightly worse GAA. I would be curious to know what kind of goal support each one got in those games. Wins are one of the worst goalie stats because they are only one part of winning games. Wins are a team stat.

I just have a hard time hanging any kind of blame here on the goalies when we are one of the worst teams in almost every statistical category that has been shown to predict success at the NHL level. My take is set the goalies up for success and then judge them, because it's really hard to know when you are setting them up to fail like we are right now. Like the recent numbers going around that we are the absolute worst team this year in giving up odd man rushes per game. We are basically give up 50% more of those kind of offensive rushes against than the average team. Couple that with being one of the worst teams at defending the front of the net, it's not a goalie friendly environment.

Maybe Soderblom won't be the guy, but he ain't the problem.

Soderblom had zero chance last night on any of the three goals scored by Nashville. All three scored in the second period, were by a player standing in front of the net behind the Hawks defender. Murphy, Tinordi, and Zaitsev were atrocious last night in their end.

As far as the overall goaltending, Mrazek won't be here when they turn this thing around, and they need to see what they have in Soderblom. Their future is elsewhere in the system, and throwing that future goalie out behind this team probably does more harm than good.

The Blackhawks have every sign of an incomplete team. The expectations of playing a complete game are so far off for this group because they simply do not have a full team to compete against the majority of their opponents. This year is shaping up to be exactly what I think any logical Blackhawks fan should have expected. They are a one-man show offensively. Losing Hall and Perry makes a rough offensive group significantly worse. These random blow out losses are a product of them having a lot of young players and a ton of guys who would be playing on the 3rd and 4th lines of many other NHL teams.
- frafra

Good post. And don't forget the defensemen. For the most part, can't fault the play of the three rookies. On a decent team Jones would be 2nd pair, Murphy 3rd pair, and Zaitsev and Tinordi not even on the roster.

When they have a better prospect, and when they're more concerned with the standings.
- mohel

Or they can trade for a goalie or signa free agent.

I could see KD bringing back Mrazek for 1 season, but he may look to bring in a replacement for Soderblom.

While I'm still hoping for the best draft position in 2024 I'm not as worried about it as last year. Top 2 would be ideal, top 5 is expected.
- DarthKane

Eye opening article about one of the top defenseman in the class the kid from Belarus.

It looks like he wants to be a difference maker.

https://theathletic.com/5...levshunov-2024-nhl-draft/

https://theathletic.com/g...s/?access_code=y1e2go5bvn

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Are Mrazek's numbers really that much better? He has a few more wins, but over these last two seasons nearly the same SV% and slightly worse GAA. I would be curious to know what kind of goal support each one got in those games. Wins are one of the worst goalie stats because they are only one part of winning games. Wins are a team stat.

I just have a hard time hanging any kind of blame here on the goalies when we are one of the worst teams in almost every statistical category that has been shown to predict success at the NHL level. My take is set the goalies up for success and then judge them, because it's really hard to know when you are setting them up to fail like we are right now. Like the recent numbers going around that we are the absolute worst team this year in giving up odd man rushes per game. We are basically give up 50% more of those kind of offensive rushes against than the average team. Couple that with being one of the worst teams at defending the front of the net, it's not a goalie friendly environment.

Maybe Soderblom won't be the guy, but he ain't the problem.
- breadbag

That's a fair comment. But I wouldn't want to set Mrazek as the standard for success. He could be a good veteran for another year, but that's it.

I didn't mean to suggest Soderblom is a bust, rather I was questioning what's the right time for that. #40s stats haven't been great, but he's looked worse through the eye test. I certainly hope Sodie turns things around, but I'm starting to get worried.

Eye opening article about one of the top defenseman in the class the kid from Belarus.

It looks like he wants to be a difference maker.

https://theathletic.com/5...levshunov-2024-nhl-draft/

https://theathletic.com/g...s/?access_code=y1e2go5bvn

Many of you can use my free 30 day pass...do it!
- wiz1901

The Hawks desperately need a RHD in the prospect pipeline, if they draft third (or later) and Levshunov is available I could see KD selecting him. If the Hawks don't pick an RHD with their pick they likely will with Tampa's (currently 16th).

Are Mrazek's numbers really that much better? He has a few more wins, but over these last two seasons nearly the same SV% and slightly worse GAA. I would be curious to know what kind of goal support each one got in those games. Wins are one of the worst goalie stats because they are only one part of winning games. Wins are a team stat.

I just have a hard time hanging any kind of blame here on the goalies when we are one of the worst teams in almost every statistical category that has been shown to predict success at the NHL level. My take is set the goalies up for success and then judge them, because it's really hard to know when you are setting them up to fail like we are right now. Like the recent numbers going around that we are the absolute worst team this year in giving up odd man rushes per game. We are basically give up 50% more of those kind of offensive rushes against than the average team. Couple that with being one of the worst teams at defending the front of the net, it's not a goalie friendly environment.

Maybe Soderblom won't be the guy, but he ain't the problem.
- breadbag

Preach brother. The Hawks after losing Hall, Perry, and AA are one of the two worst teams in the league. They’ll get a top five pick(hopefully top two)and will add some NHL talent this offseason. Three of their six defensemen looked real good last night(Jones/KK/Vlasic), hard to believe that Vlasic is a +9 on this crappy team, the dude is a keeper.

Tinordi in concussion protocol, need a LD up, who’s turn is it? Kaiser, Phillips, or one of Del Mastro or Allan.

That's a fair comment. But I wouldn't want to set Mrazek as the standard for success. He could be a good veteran for another year, but that's it.

I didn't mean to suggest Soderblom is a bust, rather I was questioning what's the right time for that. #40s stats haven't been great, but he's looked worse through the eye test. I certainly hope Sodie turns things around, but I'm starting to get worried.
- DarthKane

He's had some good starts. At Boston, both Toronto games, NJ. The obvious clunkers were at AZ and at Vegas. We'll see if Jimmy Waite can turn him into an NHL goalie or not. Both starts against the Preds were .900.

The Hawks desperately need a RHD in the prospect pipeline, if they draft third (or later) and Levshunov is available I could see KD selecting him. If the Hawks don't pick an RHD with their pick they likely will with Tampa's (currently 16th).
- DarthKane

Zayne Parekh, RD, supposed to be some offensive dynamo. Slated to go around 12. Doubt if the TB pick gets that low, but you never know.

Per Ben Pope twitter re Soderblom...

Arvid Soderblom has faced 6.88 rebound attempts per 60 minutes this season, 6th-most among 64 goalies league-wide.

Those rebound control problems were particularly noticeable last night.