Lol at how quick people are to say bust around here. Particularly since he seems to be one of the two biggest surprises from those who follow prospects. On a much less competitive American team, Jake Guentzel never made it, but he turned out alright.

Real talk, Pickering hasn't had the offensive development they dreamed of. But that was always in doubt , or else a guy with his size and tools would be top ten. He's more likely going to be the guy that plays next to a star, not the star defenseman himself.
- Tojo.

I dont follow the prospects as much as I used to, and certainly not as much as you, but was he ever expected to be much of an offense D guy? I thought from the very get go when drafted he was pegged as more of big physical stay at home type....maybe I'm thinking of someone else...

4.2 mill cap raise this off season...and BJC gone...about 7.3 mill in space. Jake's extention will probably eat up 2 to 3 of this. He is the only real UFA of consequence. So they will most likely have 4 to 5 mill in space and need a backup goalie.....maybe they have a tiny bit of depth scoring next season haha...

4.2 mill cap raise this off season...and BJC gone...about 7.3 mill in space. Jake's extention will probably eat up 2 to 3 of this. He is the only real UFA of consequence. So they will most likely have 4 to 5 mill in space and need a backup goalie.....maybe they have a tiny bit of depth scoring next season haha...
- MattStrat

I’m hoping they resign Ned as backup. If he keeps his play up anyways.

I’m hoping they resign Ned as backup. If he keeps his play up anyways.
- 10inchTerror

For sure, if he keeps it up. Most likely will get a raise though, if so.

EDIT: maybe it was shortsighted of me to be saying Jake is the only UFA of consequence....if Ned keeps it up....

4.2 mill cap raise this off season...and BJC gone...about 7.3 mill in space. Jake's extention will probably eat up 2 to 3 of this. He is the only real UFA of consequence. So they will most likely have 4 to 5 mill in space and need a backup goalie.....maybe they have a tiny bit of depth scoring next season haha...
- MattStrat

1 more year! 1 more year! 1 more year!

1 more year! 1 more year! 1 more year!
- Grinder47

hahaha

I dont follow the prospects as much as I used to, and certainly not as much as you, but was he ever expected to be much of an offense D guy? I thought from the very get go when drafted he was pegged as more of big physical stay at home type....maybe I'm thinking of someone else...
- MattStrat

No you're right. Was said with his tools there was hope for his offensive game to grow but it didn't really happen.

No you're right. Was said with his tools there was hope for his offensive game to grow but it didn't really happen.
- Tojo.

A quick glance just showed me that he's 1st in D scoring on his WHL team and 32nd in D scoring out 191 in the whole league.

It also showed me I had no f'n idea he played 8 games for WBS last season haha...how did I sleep on that? haha don't recall it being mentioned around here.... 8 games and 0 points...

The results are the results. Sullivan has to go no matter what.

That interview with Dubas on the Pens site seems way too 'wait and see' for this point in the season? Almost like it was conducted a month ago.

That interview with Dubas on the Pens site seems way too 'wait and see' for this point in the season? Almost like it was conducted a month ago.
- Thorny87

Yeah he’s usually pretty up front with what he’s thinking so far this year. I was kind of disappointed by the interview.

The results are the results. Sullivan has to go no matter what.
- Victoro311

This. There needs to be a culture change.

The results are the results. Sullivan has to go no matter what.
- Victoro311

Agreed. Sure he’s a nice guy and he’s a good coach who did a lot. But it’s time.

As crappy as some facets of the Pens play have been, they are 4 pts away from 2nd place in the Division. Right now it's the Rangers and a bunch of "also ran's" in the Metro. I think that's why there is no sign of panicking by the FO.

Agreed. Sure he’s a nice guy and he’s a good coach who did a lot. But it’s time.
- stayinthefnnet

Yeah at this point I’m where I was with Rutherford with Sully. Great Penguin, but his shelf life is expired and has to be shown the door.

As crappy as some facets of the Pens play have been, they are 4 pts away from 2nd place in the Division. Right now it's the Rangers and a bunch of "also ran's" in the Metro. I think that's why there is no sign of panicking by the FO.
- chimpira

I don’t think making a coaching change would be a panic move regardless of the standings. We’re a third through the season and we’re not showing any signs of improvement. The fact we’re still in the race is fortunate. The time to make a coaching change is now while we still have a shot.

BBQ Bruce come on down.

Yeah at this point I’m where I was with Rutherford with Sully. Great Penguin, but his shelf life is expired and has to be shown the door.
- Victoro311

Yep.

Guentzel-Crosby-Smith
DOC-Malkin-Rust tonight
See if giving Malkin Rust and flipping DOC to his better side gets Malkin going.

2 mins of pressure no shot then penalty

The Pens would rather look for a pass than do anything that requires hard work or physical confrontation.

2 mins of pressure no shot then penalty
- Thorny87

You mean status quo

You mean status quo
- 10inchTerror

Shea must love his 000 stat line. He passed up at least 3 shots from a scoring area from what I saw.

Shea must love his 000 stat line. He passed up at least 3 shots from a scoring area from what I saw.
- Thorny87

Plus those two penalties won't sit well. Either Dubas or Sully said they hope to get POJ back in the line up next week after his rehab assignment. I think I know who is coming out.

Shea must love his 000 stat line. He passed up at least 3 shots from a scoring area from what I saw.
- Thorny87

The Penguin way.

The Pens would rather look for a pass than do anything that requires hard work or physical confrontation.
- Grinder47

Yeah a lot of passing up shots to try and walk it to front of net or making too many passes in the 1st.

Smith should of just tried to shoot instead of an attempted saucer to Sid that was like 3 feet off the ice haha