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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 30 @ 2:30 PM ET
It's so insane to me that Juulsen keeps getting to play. He hasn't had a single good game yet this year
- NorthNuck

Depth & injuries are the obvious reasons. 1st up needed cap space next up is trading for D or waiting til the UFA season.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 30 @ 2:30 PM ET
What a shot!

- boonerbuck

I like how he attacks the center of the ice there
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:32 PM ET
The narrative that we gave up a second round pick and a reliable 3C for a Sh1t Dman?
- VANTEL

You're missing two things, the long game and the bigger picture. They traded him and a 2nd round pick (cost to gain cap space) for a million dollars in cap space, they didn't care about Stillman. Who, Stillman, they later traded for more cap relief and a non-roster prospect, thereby gaining more cap space.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 30 @ 2:32 PM ET
https://twitter.com/i/status/1730303455355720083

Likker

- VANTEL

Nice use of the screen 👍
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 30 @ 2:33 PM ET
What a shot!

- boonerbuck

picks the corner on a massive screen and some guy on X wants him to drive the net on the play.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 30 @ 2:33 PM ET
krufrank (Cutting Edge Comics)

Was talking with a CAR guy who also believes VAN/CAR have been talking trade. Says DeAngelo needs to play with a defensively responsible partner. When he played with Slavin he looked great. Also thinks Noesen and/or Necas have been talked about. #Canucks

Vantels favorite reporter with some juicy stuff here.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 30 @ 2:33 PM ET
The narrative that we gave up a second round pick and a reliable 3C for a Sh1t Dman?
- VANTEL

Also the beginning of the unravelling of the cap mess JB left.
Clueless on cap mgmt & a FA puppet.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 30 @ 2:36 PM ET
Vantels favorite reporter with some juicy stuff here.
- manvanfan

Kuz is in play & others?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 30 @ 2:38 PM ET
Also the beginning of the unravelling of the cap mess JB left.
Clueless on cap mgmt & a FA puppet.

- Nighthawk


Well I have news for you, most new GMs walk into a mess. Teams don't let GMs go because they are doing an outstanding job. Gillis walked into a mess, Benning did also and now PA.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:38 PM ET
https://twitter.com/i/status/1730303455355720083

Likker

- VANTEL

Wow, a lot of whip on that stick!!
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:39 PM ET
Well I have news for you, most new GMs walk into a mess. Teams don't let GMs go because they are doing an outstanding job. Gillis walked into a mess, Benning did also and now PA.
- VANTEL

This is true, most new GM's are there for a reason, because the other guy lost the plot and things aren't going well. Rarely do you see a GM move along because he's winning too much.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 30 @ 2:39 PM ET
Vantels favorite reporter with some juicy stuff here.
- manvanfan


This guy has a new trade every day. He makes Nighthawk look like he has retired.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Nov 30 @ 2:41 PM ET
Kuz is in play & others?
- Nighthawk

I have a feeling kuz is on his way out.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 30 @ 2:42 PM ET
You're missing two things, the long game and the bigger picture. They traded him and a 2nd round pick (cost to gain cap space) for a million dollars in cap space, they didn't care about Stillman. Who, Stillman, they later traded for more cap relief and a non-roster prospect, thereby gaining more cap space.
- Pacificgem


I am not missing anything. It was just more continuation of the same crap that went on for the last 11 years.

Like I said PA has gotten better this year.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 30 @ 2:43 PM ET
This is true, most new GM's are there for a reason, because the other guy lost the plot and things aren't going well. Rarely do you see a GM move along because he's winning too much.
- Pacificgem

So Yzerman left TB a mess did he
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:45 PM ET
I am not missing anything. It was just more continuation of the same crap that went on for the last 11 years.

Like I said PA has gotten better this year.

- VANTEL

He was never bad, you just didn't understand what he was doing playing "small-ball" with those moves. At the time neither did I, for the record.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:46 PM ET
So Yzerman left TB a mess did he
- manvanfan

You see how I wrote "rarely", well that's one of those circumstances.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 30 @ 2:46 PM ET
You're missing two things, the long game and the bigger picture. They traded him and a 2nd round pick (cost to gain cap space) for a million dollars in cap space, they didn't care about Stillman. Who, Stillman, they later traded for more cap relief and a non-roster prospect, thereby gaining more cap space.
- Pacificgem


They used up the cap space quickly after trading D!ckinson. Dermott and some fringe forward/s which no one will ever remember. There ended up being nothing gained from that trade because Dermott ended up only playing something like 17 games and cap gains were squandered.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 30 @ 2:47 PM ET
Well I have news for you, most new GMs walk into a mess. Teams don't let GMs go because they are doing an outstanding job. Gillis walked into a mess, Benning did also and now PA.
- VANTEL

Pretty much true other than one made it much worse lol
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 30 @ 2:48 PM ET
This guy has a new trade every day. He makes Nighthawk look like he has retired.
- VANTEL

Carolina has been interested in Hoglander. I don't really like DeAngelo so I hope they don't make a trade.

Wait unless it's Garland for DeAngelo and Noesen. I'd be okay with that.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:49 PM ET
They used up the cap space quickly after trading D!ckinson. Dermott and some fringe forward/s which no one will ever remember. There ended up being nothing gained from that trade because Dermott ended up only playing something like 17 games and cap gains were squandered.
- boonerbuck

Yes, as I said, they were playing small-ball to try and make things work. It neither affected things positively or negatively. Although it could be argued they gave away a good second round pick to try and see what they could accomplish. Which is bad, in my books.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 30 @ 2:50 PM ET
This guy has a new trade every day. He makes Nighthawk look like he has retired.
- VANTEL

I’ve got trade ideas with the Canes & Habs. Cannot bother posting when it goes nowhere in here. Bear is most likely plan B but maintain a bigger fish needed or next UFA season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 30 @ 2:50 PM ET
He was never bad, you just didn't understand what he was doing playing "small-ball" with those moves. At the time neither did I, for the record.
- Pacificgem


He was as bad as the priors. As Booner mentioned in his post burning the cap he gained for bad players and giving up picks. All too familiar.

Back then you would hear a lot of stuff about ownership would not allow it. Now you hear nothing about ownership and the team has improved.

Even dating back to Gillis ownership was very hands on.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 30 @ 2:51 PM ET
If Obero would have kept D-Petey and got rid of Philip Holm, Lekkerimaki is probably leading the league in goals.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 30 @ 2:52 PM ET
Carolina has been interested in Hoglander. I don't really like DeAngelo so I hope they don't make a trade.
- manvanfan

My problem with DeA is a temp fix & not worth giving up Hoglander. Need is a true top 4 shutdown D.
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