Assuming Chytil ever comes back. This is like his 4th or 5th concussion.
- aecliptic

Yea that’s why I like Jenner so much. It takes that headache and kind of makes it go away

Mac Hollowell is having a good season in Hartford where he could maybe take over the Schneider spot. I’m not sure if he’s that AHL+ kind of guy where he sucks in the NHL tho. Small guy too which isn’t great

Yea that’s why I like Jenner so much. It takes that headache and kind of makes it go away

Mac Hollowell is having a good season in Hartford where he could maybe take over the Schneider spot. I’m not sure if he’s that AHL+ kind of guy where he sucks in the NHL tho. Small guy too which isn’t great
- Slimtj100

When it comes to defense, everyone should be looking at Vegas and using that as their model. Big, tall, good skaters.

Ive wanted Jenner for years, before they signed him and made him captain. I thought he'd be the perfect leader type, 3C/fringe 2C type player. Checks all the boxes when I think of a perfect middle 6 player.

When it comes to defense, everyone should be looking at Vegas and using that as their model. Big, tall, good skaters.

Ive wanted Jenner for years, before they signed him and made him captain. I thought he'd be the perfect leader type, 3C/fringe 2C type player. Checks all the boxes when I think of a perfect middle 6 player.
- aecliptic

I agree with the Vegas model no doubt. My thinking is at the TDL Drury could easily find a 6th dman to replace Schneider, Mikkola was fine. He’s the 6th defenseman on this team right now (with Fox playing), it’s not end of the world if he’s traded is my point. Seems to be falling on deaf eyes tho lol

When it comes to defense, everyone should be looking at Vegas and using that as their model. Big, tall, good skaters.
- aecliptic

Exactly. And Colorado. And Tampa. And almost every team that wins.

If we're being honest a 3rd pair of Gus and Schneider is pretty good. But great? If we want to win a cup, we need to be elite back there. In an ideal world, Gus and/or Schneider are like 6/7 guys. Obviously there are cap realities and trade market realities to deal with, but that's my ideal if we want to win it all.

I agree with the Vegas model no doubt. My thinking is at the TDL Drury could easily find a 6th dman to replace Schneider, Mikkola was fine. He’s the 6th defenseman on this team right now, it’s not end of the world if he’s traded is my point. Seems to be falling on deaf eyes tho lol
- Slimtj100

I just don't think we're in a position to be subtracting from our top 6 right now. If Drury wants to go for it and trade for a forward that will be in high demand at the TDL, great. But with a win-now mindset that should be coming from our prospect and draft capital, not current roster.

I just don't think we're in a position to be subtracting from our top 6 right now. If Drury wants to go for it and trade for a forward that will be in high demand at the TDL, great. But with a win-now mindset that should be coming from our prospect and draft capital, not current roster.
- t-dawg

Well I think certain targets would cost more, ie - Kakko, Cuylle or Schneider from the roster. 6th D to me is the least painful to lose right now

Im not exactly sure what people are expecting from a 22 year old defenseman who has had probably close to a dozen different defensive partners in his brief 2 years. We always talk about how a defenseman's progression as he grows is anything but linear. Yet here we are, talking about trading a 22yo defenseman who only 6 months ago was as untouchable as one could be.

Im not exactly sure what people are expecting from a 22 year old defenseman who has had probably close to a dozen different defensive partners in his brief 2 years. We always talk about how a defenseman's progression as he grows is anything but linear. Yet here we are, talking about trading a 22yo defenseman who only 6 months ago was as untouchable as one could be.
- aecliptic

If we didn’t have a gaping hole up front I wouldn’t have brought him up trust me I’m creating a hole we can easily replace with about 38 guys across the league for cheap. If we didn’t have Trouba or fox entrenched on the right side I wouldn’t bring him up either. I’m not worried about 3 years from now, I’m worried about this current season and team

Schneider is not Bobby Orr btw. He’s a nice player. He was untouchable imo until Chytils injury, and the signing of Gustafson. But sure let’s ride or die with Bonino as the 3C

If we didn’t have a gaping hole up front I wouldn’t have brought him up trust me I’m creating a hole we can easily replace with about 38 guys across the league for cheap. If we didn’t have Trouba or fox entrenched on the right side I wouldn’t bring him up either. I’m not worried about 3 years from now, I’m worried about this current season and team

Schneider is not Bobby Orr btw. He’s a nice player. He was untouchable imo until Chytils injury, and the signing of Gustafson
- Slimtj100

How do you easily replace a solid young RD making ELC money on a team with hardly any cap space?

...and dont say trade Goodrow, because its pretty clear he's not going anywhere.

How do you easily replace a solid young RD making ELC money on a team with hardly any cap space?

...and dont say trade Goodrow, because its pretty clear he's not going anywhere.
- aecliptic

Because he’s currently playing 3rd pair minutes now, and the next two years after it. Those guys don’t make much money or cost much to get

It’s cool. Let’s roll with Nicky Bones in the top 9 on a team that literally has one line scoring consistently

Chytil LTIR and Schneider moved gives us 5.2 ish to play with

Jenner and Bean (maybe retain a bit on Bean) is 6 mill and change.

Jenner and Bean for Schneider and Sykora. Boom I’ve solved both problems, Lock it up

Because he’s currently playing 3rd pair minutes now, and the next two years after it. Those guys don’t make much money or cost much to get

It’s cool. Let’s roll with Nicky Bones in the top 9
- Slimtj100

No that was definitely not your worst trade proposal. LOL

Id take a chance on Monahan. He is having a decent season, manageable Cap hit (2M) and is a FA at the end of the season. Could come for a second and third rounder.

Because he’s currently playing 3rd pair minutes now, and the next two years after it. Those guys don’t make much money or cost much to get

It’s cool. Let’s roll with Nicky Bones in the top 9 on a team that literally has one line scoring consistently
- Slimtj100

Because Schneider is literally the ONLY asset we have available to trade. I would sell high and trade Berard in a heart beat. I like Cuylle, Ive been on that bandwagon since the beginning of last year, but to me he's tradeable. Kakko obviously. Maybe Sather can pull out his little black book and convince (blackmail) someone to take Chytil. Of the things we could trade, Schneider doesnt even crack the top 10.

No that was definitely not your worst trade proposal. LOL

Id take a chance on Monahan. He is having a decent season, manageable Cap hit (2M) and is a FA at the end of the season. Could come for a second and third rounder.
- Brukie

I really like this trade for both teams 🤷🏻‍♂️

No that was definitely not your worst trade proposal. LOL

Id take a chance on Monahan. He is having a decent season, manageable Cap hit (2M) and is a FA at the end of the season. Could come for a second and third rounder.
- Brukie

Thats where Im at right now, Monahan seem's to have worked out whatever was ailing him. MTL gave him a chance last year and he looked decent. He looks good again this year. Most importantly, we dont need to lose any of our starters to make it happen.

Would you trade Schneider? If we did we could get that elusive 1st line RW couldn’t we? Or perhaps Jenner(JD fist pump remember?)

Gus can play the right side and Jones can at least play a regular shift. Seems as though the pair have kind of struggled together tho. Jones probably couldn’t get much return, but Braden could. Id hate to give him up, but maybe they have a more pressing need up front. Gustafson has given them a lot of options emerging like he has, especially playing both sides comfortably

Jenner for Schneider may actually work for both teams. Jenner has to be willing to leave there I’d think, and JD loves Schneider as we know. The Rangers top 4 D are really among the best in the NHL so they really don’t need much from a 3rd pair. Worst case you make a deal at the deadline for a L or RHD, ala Niko Mikkola. Jenner gives you insurance at center also with Chytils apparent lengthy absence, so makes it a better deal for us.

Idk just thinking that maybe Schneider is the one to go 🤔

New first line -
Bread - Trocheck (becoming a bargain) - Laf

Cuylle - Zib - Kakko (I’d give it a look like someone mentioned…”kid line with an adult” ) he just had a baby maybe it’s good luck lol

Kreider (maybe it is time for CK20 to get a reduced role) - Jenner ( or Bonino)- Vesey (deserves more ice time)

New 4th line-Goodrow -Bonino-Pitlick/Wheeler
(I think it’s clear that Wheeler isn’t good enough anymore for a top 9 role)

I’ve looooooved what I’ve seen from Vesey. He may be one of our better 5 on 5 forwards, so him on the 4th line needs to change imo. Wheeler is the one who needs to move down. He’d probably be a perfect 4th liner anyway. He just seems to have a bit of an ego where he wouldn’t want to do that

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What worries me the most is they’re very reliant on 4 things: power play, one line, goaltending (eventually) and the D structure. Not worried in the least about those things but there are holes in this roster that we can’t ignore. I want to win it this year before the Devils get really good. I worry we won’t have enough scoring like the Hank era. We need another forward asap, and/or guys (“kids”) need to step up. Up front were short handed I get it, but they need address it prior to the TDL imo. Chytil probably should go on LTIR and when the cap space is available, boom you make a trade. It will put the questions to bed when he’s coming back, and if he can do anything in the playoffs great. Next year see how he’s doing and in the meantime get away from hockey and get the care he needs. He may not play again and that would really suck but we need a plan B in case.
- Slimtj100

Boone Jenner can be had for a lower price. Won’t take a kid who just turned 22 years old up and coming defensive stud to get him. I think that’s a gross overpayment for someone like Boone Jenner nor am I interested weakening our defense. Thats a trade we will absolutely be sick over

Because Schneider is literally the ONLY asset we have available to trade. I would sell high and trade Berard in a heart beat. I like Cuylle, Ive been on that bandwagon since the beginning of last year, but to me he's tradeable. Kakko obviously. Maybe Sather can pull out his little black book and convince (blackmail) someone to take Chytil. Of the things we could trade, Schneider doesnt even crack the top 10.
- aecliptic

No one is going to touch Chytil, even if he does comeback now with the league knowing his injury history.

My thing is only the team knows how serious his injury is, If it is as serious as we might think then IMO they should make a move now instead of waiting to make a trade later on when the whole league will know they need a center.

No one is going to touch Chytil, even if he does comeback now with the league knowing his injury history.

My thing is only the team knows how serious his injury is, If it is as serious as we might think then IMO they should make a move now instead of waiting to make a trade later on when the whole league will know they need a center.
- Brukie

If theres anything I learned about the management group of this team, its that nothing is ever done in what we would consider a normal time frame.

No one is going to touch Chytil, even if he does comeback now with the league knowing his injury history.

My thing is only the team knows how serious his injury is, If it is as serious as we might think then IMO they should make a move now instead of waiting to make a trade later on when the whole league will know they need a center.
- Brukie

I think the league can figure it out pretty easily when we try to acquire a center that we need a center

Boone Jenner can be had for a lower price. Won’t take a kid who just turned 22 years old up and coming defensive stud to get him. I think that’s a gross overpayment for someone like Boone Jenner nor am I interested weakening our defense. Thats a trade we will absolutely be sick over
- Awolff9

I think you’re grossly underrating Jenner. He’s paid like goodrow but performs like Trocheck before this year. Almost 60% on faceoffs, has 8 goals this year already

I think the league can figure it out pretty easily when we try to acquire a center that we need a center
- picklerick

I think the league can figure out we need a center when Bonino and Goodrow are our bottom 2 centers.

I think the league can figure out we need a center when Bonino and Goodrow are our bottom 2 centers.
- aecliptic

This is what I mean, that hole is waaaaaay more concerning to me then the 6th defenseman hole that would be created

This is what I mean, that hole is waaaaaay more concerning to me then the 6th defenseman hole that would be created
- Slimtj100

The point is you dont need to create a hole in the defense.

This is what I mean, that hole is waaaaaay more concerning to me then the 6th defenseman hole that would be created
- Slimtj100

I’ll show you a concerning hole

The point is you dont need to create a hole in the defense.
- aecliptic

If he was a top 4 guy for us I’d agree with you, but he’s not and he won’t be for at least 2 more years either. Fox isn’t going anywhere and neither is Trouba. Hell they could probably sign Trouba again for a couple of seasons and he still won’t be top 4 guy

3C>>>>>>3rd pair D all day everyday imo

I’ll show you a concerning hole
- picklerick

Speaking of that, not sure where Jimmy is today