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Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 22 @ 10:37 AM ET
JD would make us squirm for sure, doing everything he can to screw Dolan.
Trade for Jenner starts with Schneider, then add maybe another player and a pick. I'd love to land him, he's on my fantasy team and would definitely be a big improvement. JD is in no rush to move him early though unless he gets a really good offer.

- Fenrir

They could have Jiricek, Werenski and Schneider in their top 4. They also have sillinger and Fantilli at center. JD knows who he is so I don’t think it would cost us that much more. Certainly not a first or another top prospect
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 22 @ 10:40 AM ET
Yes I said we need a Center if Chytil is out long term. We dont know yet. We need depth on D if we are going to make a deep run. Plus in 2 years when Trouba is a FA Schneider will only be 24/25. We need him to continue to develop.

What we need is to get Zib and CK20 scoring at 5v5. Whether they find the touch or break them up. It needs to be done soon so they can figure out what piece we need to add for the playoffs.

Besides the Jackets are a mess now, I can see them hiring a new coach before they move players.

- Brukie

I think it’s a logical trade for both teams. At some point the rangers will make a bold trade like this, they need to in order to win it all. Gus has made a move like this possible imo. I’m no longer thinking 3 years from now, it’s time to win the damn thing

Columbus just hired this guy after Babcock got all sorts of crazy

At least give me that it’s not my worst trade ever
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 22 @ 10:56 AM ET
I think it’s a logical trade for both teams. At some point the rangers will make a bold trade like this, they need to in order to win it all. Gus has made a move like this possible imo. I’m no longer thinking 3 years from now, it’s time to win the damn thing

Columbus just hired this guy after Babcock got all sorts of crazy

At least give me that it’s not my worst trade ever

- Slimtj100


Let’s get (frank)ing crazy then. With Chytil to season ending LTIR:

To Nyr:
Laine ($2.5m retained for 2.5 years)
Jenner
Bean (50% retained on expiring contract)

To CBJ:
Kakko
Miller
1st
Prospect not named othmann or Perrault

Kreider mika laine
Bread trocheck laf
Cuylle Jenner wheeler
Vesey bonino pitlick goodrow (buy him out in off-season)

Lindy fox
Gus Trouba
Bean Schneider

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 22 @ 11:00 AM ET
Let’s get (frank)ing crazy then. With Chytil to season ending LTIR:

To Nyr:
Laine ($2.5m retained for 2.5 years)
Jenner
Bean (50% retained on expiring contract)

To CBJ:
Kakko
Miller
1st
Prospect not named othmann or Perrault

Kreider mika laine
Bread trocheck laf
Cuylle Jenner wheeler
Vesey bonino pitlick goodrow (buy him out in off-season)

Lindy fox
Gus Trouba
Bean Schneider

- picklerick
id be on board with that

Laine seems crazy but he would definitely be what the first line needs

Cbj has been our biggest trade partner forever it seems like. Gaborik, Brassard, Nash, JOHN FREAKIN MOORE lol big names man, big names
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 22 @ 11:01 AM ET
id be on board with that

Laine seems crazy but he would definitely be what the first line needs

- Slimtj100


A) this is insane, would never happen, and also did I mention it’s insane and would never happen for many reasons
B) laine at $6.2m is more more palatable than $8.7m. But also he’s such a wildcard
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 22 @ 11:03 AM ET
A) this is fun, would never happen, and also did I mention it’s fun and would never happen for many reasons
B) laine at $6.2m is more more palatable than $8.7m. But also he’s such a fun guy

- picklerick

Fixed for the fun police
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Nov 22 @ 11:25 AM ET
You need defensemen depth in the playoffs. Trading Schneider should not be on the table right now, nor do I think it is

The team needs to be a bit grittier. It’s why we will see Othmann come March time.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Nov 22 @ 11:28 AM ET
Would you trade Schneider? If we did we could get that elusive 1st line RW couldn’t we? Or perhaps Jenner(JD fist pump remember?)

Gus can play the right side and Jones can at least play a regular shift. Seems as though the pair have kind of struggled together tho. Jones probably couldn’t get much return, but Braden could. Id hate to give him up, but maybe they have a more pressing need up front. Gustafson has given them a lot of options emerging like he has, especially playing both sides comfortably

Jenner for Schneider may actually work for both teams. Jenner has to be willing to leave there I’d think, and JD loves Schneider as we know. The Rangers top 4 D are really among the best in the NHL so they really don’t need much from a 3rd pair. Worst case you make a deal at the deadline for a L or RHD, ala Niko Mikkola. Jenner gives you insurance at center also with Chytils apparent lengthy absence, so makes it a better deal for us.

Idk just thinking that maybe Schneider is the one to go 🤔

New first line -
Bread - Trocheck (becoming a bargain) - Laf

Cuylle - Zib - Kakko (I’d give it a look like someone mentioned…”kid line with an adult” ) he just had a baby maybe it’s good luck lol

Kreider (maybe it is time for CK20 to get a reduced role) - Jenner ( or Bonino)- Vesey (deserves more ice time)

New 4th line-Goodrow -Bonino-Pitlick/Wheeler
(I think it’s clear that Wheeler isn’t good enough anymore for a top 9 role)

I’ve looooooved what I’ve seen from Vesey. He may be one of our better 5 on 5 forwards, so him on the 4th line needs to change imo. Wheeler is the one who needs to move down. He’d probably be a perfect 4th liner anyway. He just seems to have a bit of an ego where he wouldn’t want to do that

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What worries me the most is they’re very reliant on 4 things: power play, one line, goaltending (eventually) and the D structure. Not worried in the least about those things but there are holes in this roster that we can’t ignore. I want to win it this year before the Devils get really good. I worry we won’t have enough scoring like the Hank era. We need another forward asap, and/or guys (“kids”) need to step up. Up front were short handed I get it, but they need address it prior to the TDL imo. Chytil probably should go on LTIR and when the cap space is available, boom you make a trade. It will put the questions to bed when he’s coming back, and if he can do anything in the playoffs great. Next year see how he’s doing and in the meantime get away from hockey and get the care he needs. He may not play again and that would really suck but we need a plan B in case.

- Slimtj100



RangerSaver??
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 22 @ 11:32 AM ET
You need defensemen depth in the playoffs. Trading Schneider should not be on the table right now, nor do I think it is

The team needs to be a bit grittier. It’s why we will see Othmann come March time.

- airjan23


Not for the purpose of adding grit but I wonder what the odds of perrault signing after his season is over are. He’s lighting it up
t-dawg
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.24.2022

Nov 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
You need defensemen depth in the playoffs. Trading Schneider should not be on the table right now, nor do I think it is

The team needs to be a bit grittier. It’s why we will see Othmann come March time.

- airjan23


Agree that we're likely not dealing away any top 6 dmen if we're serious about contending. More likely that we add one more big one ala Mikkola last year, like Zadorov (he'll probably end up costing way too much for what he is, though).

I know people are in love with Gus right now for the value he brings compared to his contract, but he's actually not looked that great the past few games imo. He's been solid enough given our injuries and his contract for sure, but we probably need to improve on the back end if we want to win the cup.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 22 @ 11:51 AM ET
RangerSaver??
- Greschnergy#4

Not as eloquent…or robotic
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 22 @ 11:59 AM ET
Skimming through the bad teams in the league thus far, there's really not much out there that really makes me want to make a trade.

Jenner and Lindholm are obviously the top of the list. Monahan, Duclair, Sissons, Pinto would all be on my list. I wonder if Sens would trade Pinto and Taras (@50%) to us.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 22 @ 12:00 PM ET
Agree that we're likely not dealing away any top 6 dmen if we're serious about contending. More likely that we add one more big one ala Mikkola last year, like Zadorov (he'll probably end up costing way too much for what he is, though).

I know people are in love with Gus right now for the value he brings compared to his contract, but he's actually not looked that great the past few games imo. He's been solid enough given our injuries and his contract for sure, but we probably need to improve on the back end if we want to win the cup.

- t-dawg


There’s just no way they add a top 4 defenseman (or need one) like Zadorov. I can see them adding a 7d type for a late round pick. Gus/Schneider is probably the best value bottom pairing defensive pair in the entire league. Gus should not come out of the lineup if healthy
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 22 @ 12:01 PM ET
Agree that we're likely not dealing away any top 6 dmen if we're serious about contending. More likely that we add one more big one ala Mikkola last year, like Zadorov (he'll probably end up costing way too much for what he is, though).

I know people are in love with Gus right now for the value he brings compared to his contract, but he's actually not looked that great the past few games imo. He's been solid enough given our injuries and his contract for sure, but we probably need to improve on the back end if we want to win the cup.

- t-dawg

Gus as the 5th D is perfect for him/us. He’s playing perhaps a bit too high on these pairs at the moment, with fox out

But a 3rd pair of him and Schneider is great, but I’ll stand by we need a forward desperately where if we traded him we’d be better off and then trade for a depth dman or two

Zadorov I like but he’s another guy that makes a bit too much I think
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 22 @ 12:04 PM ET
Skimming through the bad teams in the league thus far, there's really not much out there that really makes me want to make a trade.

Jenner and Lindholm are obviously the top of the list. Monahan, Duclair, Sissons, Pinto would all be on my list. I wonder if Sens would trade Pinto and Taras (@50%) to us.

- aecliptic
bonino in the top 9 is bigger than any other problems we may have, including trading Schneider

Chytil hurt makes us pivot in a direction we may have not have anticipated, and to sacrifice somewhere else unfortunately
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 22 @ 12:06 PM ET
bonino in the top 9 is bigger then any other problems we may have, including trading Schneider
- Slimtj100


That’s why either chytil is gonna skate soon or he’s getting LTIR’d and trade is coming. Even if it’s a minor trade for a cheap 3C until chytil comes back, if he is at all. Can’t keep going like this
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 22 @ 12:07 PM ET
bonino in the top 9 is bigger then any other problems we may have, including trading Schneider
- Slimtj100


But this is what I mean, theyre all centers and targets that I think are viable... from the limited pool of teams/players out there right now. Hard to judge who will be buyers and sellers this early in the year. You dont really see the trade cherry popped til mid-late December.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 22 @ 12:08 PM ET
That’s why either chytil is gonna skate soon or he’s getting LTIR’d and trade is coming. Even if it’s a minor trade for a cheap 3C until chytil comes back, if he is at all. Can’t keep going like this
- picklerick


If it has to be right now and cheap, then I think the ideal target is Monahan. It makes the most sense.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 22 @ 12:09 PM ET
If it has to be right now and cheap, then I think the ideal target is Monahan. It makes the most sense.
- aecliptic


I was thinking maybe Mcdavid. Like goodrow + a 1st should do it
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 22 @ 12:11 PM ET
That’s why either chytil is gonna skate soon or he’s getting LTIR’d and trade is coming. Even if it’s a minor trade for a cheap 3C until chytil comes back, if he is at all. Can’t keep going like this
- picklerick

They get the full cap relief of 4.4 whatever it is right? That would definitely open up some doors to explore. Takes retention out of the equation most likely too

aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 22 @ 12:12 PM ET
I was thinking maybe Mcdavid. Like goodrow + a 1st should do it
- picklerick


Selling yourself short there buddy, gotta get Drais in that deal.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
They get the full cap relief of 4.4 whatever it is right? That would definitely open up some doors to explore. Takes retention out of the equation most likely too
- Slimtj100


They would free up all 4.4m of Chytil's salary, and would have saved over 1m from Fox's time on LTIR.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Nov 22 @ 12:16 PM ET
Not as eloquent…or robotic
- Slimtj100


You used punctuations but so damn long. Tbh it was TLDR
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 22 @ 12:16 PM ET
They would free up all 4.4m of Chytil's salary, and would have saved apprx 1m from Fox's time on LTIR.
- aecliptic

It’s probably what they’ll end up doing. That puts Lindholm on the table without retention, who I think is the most likely target. Ahead of Jenner even. Jenner is attractive because of the term left. We’d get him for 2.5 seasons, at a very cushy cap hit. He would move Chytil to RW which may the best idea of all
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 22 @ 12:17 PM ET
It’s probably what they’ll end up doing. That puts Lindholm on the table without retention, who I think is the most likely target. Ahead of Jenner even. Jenner is attractive because of the term left. We’d get him for 2.5 seasons, at a very cushy cap hit. He would move Chytil to RW which may the best idea of all
- Slimtj100


Assuming Chytil ever comes back. This is like his 4th or 5th concussion.
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