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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 17 @ 3:18 PM ET
You're on an extremely small micro island in both cases. More like a pebble in the middle of the ocean.

If there was a vote today, who would win the Jack Adams?

- MJL

Tortorella would certainly be a finalist for the Jack Ass award.

I will give him credit that the team seems more focused and disciplined, but his style of play and decision making frustrates the hell out of me.

Lavy may not have had a shelf life but I miss the offensive mindset he had. I wish we could have Brindamour now
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Nov 17 @ 3:21 PM ET
As I remember it people mostly just thought he was a bad coach. Being a Flyer retread made him even more unappealing.
- Dkos

We are definitely a board full of high intelligence in here, huh?! šŸ˜…
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
Tortorella would certainly be a finalist for the Jack Ass award.

I will give him credit that the team seems more focused and disciplined, but his style of play and decision making frustrates the hell out of me.

Lavy may not have had a shelf life but I miss the offensive mindset he had. I wish we could have Brindamour now

- funmaster18


Tortorella has the team playing as a team. He's always been good with that. You would expect that from an interim coach though. I made that comment multiple times. He's a highly paid interim coach. Like you hinted at, his style of play is very limiting. He's about the worst coach you could have for player development.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Nov 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
For sure. He's got them buzzing. Hopefully Demko keeps it up. I usually don't pull for the Canadian teams but I'd have zero issue with Canucks if they went on a run.
- Pelle31Forever

I always cheer for an underdog team as long as it's not in the metro division. Screw all of those teams not from Philly
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 17 @ 3:24 PM ET
Question for you. Sanheim showed up this season in game 1 a different player from last season. If it's coaching, why wasn't that coaching done last season when he struggled for the majority of the season?
- MJL

Because it’s the player who matured on his own..what aren’t you getting bud, this is what I’ve been telling you for some time. Kids had 4-5 coaches, 3 GMs, he’s figured it out on his own not some magical development procedure
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
Tortorella has the team playing as a team. He's always been good with that. You would expect that from an interim coach though. I made that comment multiple times. He's a highly paid interim coach. Like you hinted at, his style of play is very limiting. He's about the worst coach you could have for player development.
- MJL

how is he an interim coach? Would love to here this explanation.

What is the shelf life of an nhl coach?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
He hasn’t won a cup in 20 years since before the lockout and the one he did win was on the back of his first overall pick Lecavalier.
- psuhockey


understand what you are saying, but is also easier said than done.


https://records.nhl.com/r...-years-in-playoffs-career
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
Because it’s the player who matured on his own..what aren’t you getting bud, this is what I’ve been telling you for some time. Kids had 4-5 coaches, 3 GMs, he’s figured it out on his own not some magical development procedure
- ClaudeFather


Well then why do you keep coming back at me? That's exactly what I've been saying but you post " what aren't I getting" LOL
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 17 @ 3:29 PM ET
brown waived by the bruins
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 17 @ 3:38 PM ET
Because it’s the player who matured on his own..what aren’t you getting bud, this is what I’ve been telling you for some time. Kids had 4-5 coaches, 3 GMs, he’s figured it out on his own not some magical development procedure
- ClaudeFather

though I also think the clear signals from the new regime had a role in Sanheim's renewed focus.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
how is he an interim coach? Would love to here this explanation.

What is the shelf life of an nhl coach?

- hello it's me 2050

About 3 years and everywhere Torts has been except 1 place, he has coached 5 or more years. Thus his shelf life is double typical NHL coaches, but people on here say he is a jack-ass and an interim coach
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 17 @ 3:42 PM ET
Well then why do you keep coming back at me? That's exactly what I've been saying but you post " what aren't I getting" LOL
- MJL

time to take off the kid gloves
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 17 @ 3:42 PM ET
About 3 years and everywhere Torts has been except 1 place, he has coached 5 or more years. Thus his shelf life is double typical NHL coaches, but people on here say he is a jack-ass and an interim coach
- jd250

yeah want to hear his rational for the interim tag
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 17 @ 3:44 PM ET
york hasn't started the way i hoped he would. but think he is our best option to quaterback the PP.
- Peter Richards

Yes, York has been a disappointment, especially since for team USA York QB'd their top PP unit. I hope Andrae can get back up to the Flyers this year to get a chance to QB the PP. In the interim, I would like to see Walker QB the 1st unit or just go with 5 forwards. Risto is also a candidate when he gets back into the lineup.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:44 PM ET
though I also think the clear signals from the new regime had a role in Sanheim's renewed focus.
- jd250


What clear signals and what evidence is there of those clear signals?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 17 @ 3:45 PM ET
Im not on the torts bandwagon, but was he the coach when columbus with a lineup of a bunch of scrubs knocked the mighty leafs out of the playoffs in the 1st round?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:45 PM ET
About 3 years and everywhere Torts has been except 1 place, he has coached 5 or more years. Thus his shelf life is double typical NHL coaches, but people on here say he is a jack-ass and an interim coach
- jd250


Well he is clearly a jackass and you're not quite getting the interim coach reference and what that means.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
Yes, York has been a disappointment, especially since for team USA York QB'd their top PP unit. I hope Andrae can get back up to the Flyers this year to get a chance to QB the PP. In the interim, I would like to see Walker QB the 1st unit or just go with 5 forwards. Risto is also a candidate when he gets back into the lineup.
- jd250


Ristolainen should be tried on the PP but I don't think it would be proper to throw him out on it right away. Let him get some games under him and get a feel for the puck. Until then, Sanheim should get top PP time for the defenseman.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
So they tried last year but they're coaching wasn't as good as it is this year?
If you're not in the room and don't know the reason last year. How do you know that they're coaching is the reason this year? Are you in the room this year? This would be where the oxygen and brain thing comes in for you.

- MJL

Here are the facts. Sanheim had his worst NHL year last season; Sanheim was not driving offense and frequently lost puck battles at net front and on the boards. A clear message was sent in the off-season when the Flyers tried to trade him and no one wanted him, or at least no one wanted to give up anything of value for him. Sanheim recommitted himself this summer, bulked up and came in with a fresh attitude. He has played much better. Again, if you think coaching had nothing to do with it, you better stop inhaling that funny stuff.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
Ristolainen should be tried on the PP but I don't think it would be proper to throw him out on it right away. Let him get some games under him and get a feel for the puck. Until then, Sanheim should get top PP time for the defenseman.
- MJL

I 100% agree. Let's mark this occasion down.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:52 PM ET
Here are the facts. Sanheim had his worst NHL year last season; Sanheim was not driving offense and frequently lost puck battles at net front and on the boards. A clear message was sent in the off-season when the Flyers tried to trade him and no one wanted him, or at least no one wanted to give up anything of value for him. Sanheim recommitted himself this summer, bulked up and came in with a fresh attitude. He has played much better. Again, if you think coaching had nothing to do with it, you better stop inhaling that funny stuff.
- jd250


Your post is completely empty of any rational or reference in how coaching was the reason for it. I think it's clear that coaching was part of the reason for his poor season last year. Coaching has very little to do with it.

Just a few weeks ago, you called Sanheim a stiff and posted that he is not good offensively or defensively.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Nov 17 @ 3:53 PM ET
Sanheim stinks. Same as he’s always been just now provy is out of the way so ā€œhe’s the guyā€ & getting the most opportunities. Wildly overrated by the homers just lile provy was. Provy’s -6 most among dman on cbus & he’s not even playing the most minutes there. Just like CC was overrated. True competitor the young guys in Ott will follow his lead. Yeah his lead to mediocrity, empty stat totals & coaches getting axed. Most will never stop overrating our own. Laughton a 4th liner on a good team. TK a 2nd liner on a good team.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Nov 17 @ 3:58 PM ET
They are 7-7 at the moment. Hardly out of it. I also expected them to be in the playoff mix this season.
- MBFlyerfan

I don't think they are out of it at all. It has been a trying start.. a fired GM, a lost 1st pick, struggling on the ice, the Pinto contract and suspension and we are only a month in. I don't like their goalie, but they are solid at their forward and defense positions. Let's see where they are in January.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Nov 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
Because it’s the player who matured on his own..what aren’t you getting bud, this is what I’ve been telling you for some time. Kids had 4-5 coaches, 3 GMs, he’s figured it out on his own not some magical development procedure
- ClaudeFather

I think that's what MJL is saying too.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Nov 17 @ 4:04 PM ET
Im not on the torts bandwagon, but was he the coach when columbus with a lineup of a bunch of scrubs knocked the mighty leafs out of the playoffs in the 1st round?
- bradster

Wasn't it Tampa they knocked out after a record breaking season by Tampa?
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