Since we're talking about opening your brain and letting in oxygen, which you obviously didn't do when making your post here. Nobody, with the exception of you, needs it to be explained why at this point in time, the obvious choice would be Tocchet. Yet you picked Tortorella. Again! Like you did last year over the blatantly obvious choice of Montgomery, who out of 82 voters, received 79 first place votes and the other 3 voters had him 2nd. Did you open your brain for 5 seconds then when making that statement? Of course, you didn't. You never do with any statement. Which is why you make a fool of yourself on a daily basis.
- MJL

Time for you to inhale some more. This has nothing to do with the actual voting! I stated last season was I thought Torts did the best coaching job in the league and if I were voting I would vote for him to win the JA award. However I also acknowledged the criteria for the award, the coach adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success, would not be met and thus Torts would not be considered.

This season however may play out very different. Again, IF the Flyers actually make the playoffs after most people picked them last in the Metro division, Torts will get real consideration for the award. Right now therefore, I would vote for Torts to get the award since right now the Flyers would make the playoffs. This should not be too hard for you to understand.

A couple of things to consider. First, Torts stated that last year he did dumb down the Flyers game quite a bit because the team need to learn how to play defense, and play away from the puck. Now that the team learned to play the way Torts wants them to play without the puck, this season Torts and his staff are emphasizing more offense, taking intelligent risks and transition play to generate more scoring chances. You can already see this style in action and the results so far.

Secondly, consider both Torts and Risto have commented that it was rough start between the two of them last season. However Risto to his credit listened to what Torts wanted from him, changed his game considerably which cost him offense the first half of last season and then we started to see a much better defenseman in Risto. Risto has publicly given Torts credit for his turn around in fact.
- jd250

remember when the coach/co-GM1 wanted to give away Sanheim this summer and had zero takers. I member

Time for you to inhale some more. This has nothing to do with the actual voting! I stated last season was I thought Torts did the best coaching job in the league and if I were voting I would vote for him to win the JA award. However I also acknowledged the criteria for the award, the coach adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success, would not be met and thus Torts would not be considered.

This season however may play out very different. Again, IF the Flyers actually make the playoffs after most people picked them last in the Metro division, Torts will get real consideration for the award. Right now therefore, I would vote for Torts to get the award since right now the Flyers would make the playoffs. This should not be too hard for your to understand.
- jd250

if they flyers are in the playoff mix come January, should be thy become somewhat buyers?

remember when the coach/co-GM1 wanted to give away Sanheim this summer and had zero takers. I member
- hello it's me 2050

Except St. Louis.

remember when the coach/co-GM1 wanted to give away Sanheim this summer and had zero takers. I member
- hello it's me 2050

Yes and for good reason! Sanheim was starting an 8 year contract with a NMC for the first 4 years, and just came off one of his worst seasons. I would have tried to get out of that contract also. To Sanhiem's credit, he embraced the challenge and what Torts wanted from him, put on 20lbs and is a much better defenseman because of it. Still, he is not a top pairing defenseman and is not someone that should be on the PP.

Except St. Louis.
- MBFlyerfan

after that fell through they said he tried to give hi away and couldn't.

Yes and for good reason! Sanheim was starting an 8 year contract with a NMC for the first 4 years, and just came off one of his worst seasons. I would have tried to get out of that contract also. To Sanhiem's credit, he embraced the challenge and what Torts wanted from him, put on 20lbs and is a much better defenseman because of it. Still, he is not a top pairing defenseman and is not someone that should be on the PP.
- jd250

if the coach thought he could "fix" him then why so desperate to give him away? All his success so far this year is because of torts no?

if they flyers are in the playoff mix come January, should be thy become somewhat buyers?
- hello it's me 2050

If I were making the decisions no way the Flyers would be buyers this year, because what this current team has to do to win games is not sustainable. Torts is going to coach to win no matter what, and that is what he should do, otherwise he should not be a hockey coach. It's really about what Jones/Briere will do with the lure of playoff revenue. I think we will find out for sure if they are serious about a rebuild based on what they do at the deadline if the Flyers are still in contention.

if the coach thought he could "fix" him then why so desperate to give him away? All his success so far this year is because of torts no?
- hello it's me 2050

Sanheim deserves the credit, for recommitting to fitness, putting on much need bulk and embracing the coaching he is getting. I think Torts and Shaw do a tremendous job coaching defense.

if they flyers are in the playoff mix come January, should be thy become somewhat buyers?
- hello it's me 2050

IMO, you sell o miss the playoffs. but that wouldn't happen

Sanheim deserves the credit, for recommitting to fitness, putting on much need bulk and embracing the coaching he is getting. I think Torts and Shaw do a tremendous job coaching defense.
- jd250

you say the coaching he is getting. What is he really doing different than years prior? more assertive to me that isnt coaching to me.

IMO, you sell o miss the playoffs. but that wouldn't happen
- Peter Richards

like i said yesterday would love to see another thompson and grant type.

Washington was not picked to miss the playoffs, so if they remain a bubble team which is ultimately where I think they will be, their coach will not get consideration. The Flyers we expected to finish last in the Metro, so if they finish ahead of the Caps, Penguins, Blue Jackets, etc, Torts will get real consideration.
- jd250

Speaking of starting your brain and letting oxygen in. You seem to believe that Coach of the year consideration will be based on some random preseason prognostication rather than the actual performance of their coach. Have you actually looked at the Caps lineup? Losing Backstrom. If they make the playoffs, that would be a miracle and a really strong coaching performance.

Speaking of starting your brain and letting oxygen in. You seem to believe that Coach of the year consideration will be based on some random preseason prognostication rather than the actual performance of their coach. Have you actually looked at the Caps lineup? Losing Backstrom. If they make the playoffs, that would be a miracle and a really strong coaching performance.
- MJL

he was a shell of himself and they didn't have him for much of last year either. So that doesnt really mean that much.

Time for you to inhale some more. This has nothing to do with the actual voting! I stated last season was I thought Torts did the best coaching job in the league and if I were voting I would vote for him to win the JA award. However I also acknowledged the criteria for the award, the coach adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success, would not be met and thus Torts would not be considered.


- jd250

Speaking of inhaling. You're on drugs, aren't you? The reason for posting the actual voting results is to simply show how delusional and ridiculously stupid your comment that Tortorella should've been the hands down winner of the Jack Adams last year. A comment that you not only made, but doubled-down on many, many times

This season however may play out very different. Again, IF the Flyers actually make the playoffs after most people picked them last in the Metro division, Torts will get real consideration for the award. Right now therefore, I would vote for Torts to get the award since right now the Flyers would make the playoffs. This should not be too hard for you to understand.
- jd250

If the Flyers make the playoffs and squeak in as a wild card, he might get some votes. However he would not be a finalist and would not be in the running for the Jack Adams just based on that. How the Jack Adams works, is apparently extremely hard for you to understand.

Yes and for good reason! Sanheim was starting an 8 year contract with a NMC for the first 4 years, and just came off one of his worst seasons. I would have tried to get out of that contract also. To Sanhiem's credit, he embraced the challenge and what Torts wanted from him, put on 20lbs and is a much better defenseman because of it. Still, he is not a top pairing defenseman and is not someone that should be on the PP.
- jd250

You've made recent comments that Sanheim is a stiff and is not good offensively or defensively. Are you retracting those statements?

Sanheim should absolutely be on the PP on this team.

CC the ultimate leader. He’ll get the young guys to follow 😂

Sanheim deserves the credit, for recommitting to fitness, putting on much need bulk and embracing the coaching he is getting. I think Torts and Shaw do a tremendous job coaching defense.
- jd250

Why didn't Tortorella and Shaw do the same coaching last season with Sanheim that you claim they're doing this season?

Except St. Louis.
- MBFlyerfan

St Louis almost gave us the double fleecing.
Geez, Krug really saved us on this one, didn't he?
If sanheim keeps up this level of play then he is worth every penny of his contract, imo.
The best trade that didn't happen for ol DB!

Another fantastic presser from Torts, addresses tanking and getting Brink in the lineup, start watching at about the 1:40 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66DWHDNLCJA

You've made recent comments that Sanheim is a stiff and is not good offensively or defensively. Are you retracting those statements?

Sanheim should absolutely be on the PP on this team.
- MJL

Why should he be absolutely on the PP? Has he done anything to improve it?

Why didn't Tortorella and Shaw do the same coaching last season with Sanheim that you claim they're doing this season?
- MJL

They tried I'm sure. Maybe Sanheim was stubborn. Maybe he was not committed. I am not in the room so I don't know the reason. But I do know Sanheim went into the offseason highly motivated and came into camp in great condition, and to think Torts/Briere/Jones had nothing to do with it is asinine.

Why should he be absolutely on the PP? Has he done anything to improve it?
- hello it's me 2050

In fact Sanheim has been a disaster on the PP.

Another fantastic presser from Torts, addresses tanking and getting Brink in the lineup, start watching at about the 1:40 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66DWHDNLCJA
- jd250

Instead of watching it. I'll find out what he said by reading your posts in the very near future.

like i said yesterday would love to see another thompson and grant type.
- hello it's me 2050

lmao. I remember some thought Nate was such an important signing at the time.
over the next coupe years though, i would expect a few vets each year on one year deals. hopefully most will be gone each deadline.