Odds on Levi + UPL next season? Better than 50%?
- Lunaion

Low, UPL is going to want to get out to get minutes. Can't really blame him after the treatment the organization has shown him.

Then we're insane. Look at Comrie on WPG vs BUF, it's very clear how bad our defense is:

WPG: 19GS 2.58GA and .920SV%
BUF: 19GS 3.67GA and .886SV%


So remember, if you do trade for a goalie, look at their save percentage and subtract about .03 and add 1GPG, as this will give you their approximate percentage here. Don't believe me? Same happened with Hutton. The fact of the matter is we are swiss cheese defensively and until that changes, the reincarnation of the Dominator wouldn't change the outcomes here.
- QuinnFan

agreed but hutton is a bad example

he literally had vision problems after a few months in net

- Theguywiththething

Another good example. He was good here. He's a Vezina finalist annually on Boston. It's sad to say, but we have a long ways to go still.

agreed but hutton is a bad example

he literally had vision problems after a few months in net
- homiedclown

I thought that was in the second season? My bad then. Can switch out for Ullmark who was good here, then turned into a world ender in Boston. Many were skeptical about resigning him and applauding us not shelling out the money Boston did...I don't hear from them much anymore.

I fundamnetally don't expect that line to work. I don't think they do either. It's the reason they kept Mitts at 3C and gave balance to the middle 6. Slow start made him panic and load up....and he sure doesn't hate playing LOG more.

Think people forget that JJ-Cozens-Quinn weren't together when everything was on the line at the end of last year. It was:

Greenway-Tage-Cozens
Skinner-Mitts-Tuch
Girgs-Krebs-Okposo
JJ-Jost-Quinn

Hard to miss the similarity. When Donnie feels the heat, he'll load up 2 lines + LOG and barely play the other line.
- Lunaion

I hate these lines. 2 great lines and 2 that makes me want to puke.

With how many top9 players we have there no excuse to not make 3 good lines.

1C Thompson
2C Cozens
3C Mitts/Krebs

We have the hard part figured out with 3 Legit centers.

Ill keep on saying this but L1 of Skins-Tall-Tuch should never be messed with. Its everything a line needs with what each player brings.

I thought that was in the second season? My bad then. Can switch out for Ullmark who was good here, then turned into a world ender in Boston. Many were skeptical about resigning him and applauding us not shelling out the money Boston did...I don't hear from them much anymore.
- QuinnFan

agreed


plenty of examples


one reason why I think they are too quick to rush the extensions to the gm and coach

it's a common theme since the playoff draught going back to miller

play crappy d and the goalies get shelled more often than not and tons of high danger shots

I hate these lines. 2 great lines and 2 that makes me want to puke.

With how many top9 players we have there no excuse to not make 3 good lines.

1C Thompson
2C Cozens
3C Mitts/Krebs

We have the hard part figured out with 3 Legit centers.

Ill keep on saying this but L1 of Skins-Tall-Tuch should never be messed with. Its everything a line needs with what each player brings.
- ZiggyBuff

(waits for the skinner.tage.tuch line doesn't play d)


side note Skinner draws a lot of penalties

Then we're insane. Look at Comrie on WPG vs BUF, it's very clear how bad our defense is:

WPG: 19GS 2.58GA and .920SV%
BUF: 19GS 3.67GA and .886SV%


So remember, if you do trade for a goalie, look at their save percentage and subtract about .03 and add 1GPG, as this will give you their approximate percentage here. Don't believe me? Same happened with Hutton. The fact of the matter is we are swiss cheese defensively and until that changes, the reincarnation of the Dominator wouldn't change the outcomes here.
- QuinnFan

Doesn't some of this have to be just a result of small sample size for backup goalies? Take one with great numbers one year and it's almost a lock for them to drop off significantly.

Doesn't some of this have to be just a result of small sample size for backup goalies? Take one with great numbers one year and it's almost a lock for them to drop off significantly.
- Lunaion

That defies the logic of, "they are a year older so they are better"

agreed


plenty of examples


one reason why I think they are too quick to rush the extensions to the gm and coach

it's a common theme since the playoff draught going back to miller

play crappy d and the goalies get shelled more often than not and tons of high danger shots
- homiedclown

Yeah, I like creative, offensive hockey, so not entirely against it...until we act like the scheme has nothing to do with our high xGA.

I hate these lines. 2 great lines and 2 that makes me want to puke.

With how many top9 players we have there no excuse to not make 3 good lines.

1C Thompson
2C Cozens
3C Mitts/Krebs

We have the hard part figured out with 3 Legit centers.

Ill keep on saying this but L1 of Skins-Tall-Tuch should never be messed with. Its everything a line needs with what each player brings.
- ZiggyBuff

Bad start to the season and Donnie was feeling the pressure. We know how he reacts.

It's a long season and LOG has been bad. Can he adapt?

I been saying for a year now that he is the new Girgensons

Proof in the pudding but even then, Girgs looks great this year so far.
- Jet Jaguar BD

Good post

Girgensons has been excellent thus far

Doesn't some of this have to be just a result of small sample size for backup goalies? Take one with great numbers one year and it's almost a lock for them to drop off significantly.
- Lunaion

It'll sway more widely for sure, but the general pattern is still there. This is just a very hard place to succeed as a goaltender right now. I believe the last time we had a goalie get better here, outside Ullmark developing, was Chad Johnson and even that was very short lived.

He really isn’t.

He is a grinder who doesn’t grind.
- Jet Jaguar BD

Cause that's essentially what hes been turned into the last season and a bit.

It'll sway more widely for sure, but the general pattern is still there. This is just a very hard place to succeed as a goaltender right now. I believe the last time we had a goalie get better here, outside Ullmark developing, was Chad Johnson and even that was very short lived.
- QuinnFan

Michal Neuvirth deserves a shout out

29 games for the sabres

.921 save percentage

6-19-3 record

just look at this lovely roster

https://www.hockeydb.com/...ons/teams/0000332015.html

It'll sway more widely for sure, but the general pattern is still there. This is just a very hard place to succeed as a goaltender right now. I believe the last time we had a goalie get better here, outside Ullmark developing, was Chad Johnson and even that was very short lived.
- QuinnFan

Neuvirth, Lindback, Lehner.

All played solid when here.

Kinda side note. Look at the 17-18 team... WOOF

https://www.hockeydb.com/...ons/teams/0000332018.html

Michal Neuvirth deserves a shout out

29 games for the sabres

.921 save percentage

6-19-3 record

just look at this lovely roster

https://www.hockeydb.com/...ons/teams/0000332015.html
- homiedclown

Hey I was posting that


I cannot remember watching Mezaros play here

Hey I was posting that


I cannot remember watching Mezaros play here
- DirtyDan

Michal Neuvirth deserves a shout out

29 games for the sabres

.921 save percentage

6-19-3 record

just look at this lovely roster

https://www.hockeydb.com/...ons/teams/0000332015.html
- homiedclown

Agreed, he was a great goalie that got cut short by tons of injuries. He was so good, we traded him to tank harder lol. But he still sticks to the pattern, next full season with the Flyers he gained .006 in the SV% and .7 less in GAA, with the latter stat being the big change.

Agreed, he was a great goalie that got cut short by tons of injuries. He was so good, we traded him to tank harder lol. But he still sticks to the pattern, next full season with the Flyers he gained .006 in the SV% and .7 less in GAA, with the latter stat being the big change.
- QuinnFan

That didn't apply when he went to NYI for the end of the season though...

That didn't apply when he went to NYI for the end of the season though...
- DirtyDan

I blame okposo

Michal Neuvirth deserves a shout out

29 games for the sabres

.921 save percentage

6-19-3 record

just look at this lovely roster

https://www.hockeydb.com/...ons/teams/0000332015.html
- homiedclown

Extremely small sample size. But look at housers numbers here

That didn't apply when he went to NYI for the end of the season though...
- DirtyDan

Yeah, was 5 games and the Isles got pumped. They had 3 wins in their last 10 games that season as the tires fell off. The next year in Philly, he was noticeably better than he was for us.

Yeah, was 5 games and the Isles got pumped. They had 3 wins in their last 10 games that season as the tires fell off. The next year in Philly, he was noticeably better than he was for us.
- QuinnFan

I wouldn't be surprised if they sent Levi down at some point(sooner than later) and went Comrie/UPL split.

I dont mind being wrong but I don't think hes better than the other 2 at the moment.

Some seasoning would do him good IMO. Let him dominate in Roch for a bit.

Hey I was posting that


I cannot remember watching Mezaros play here
- DirtyDan

How about Carlo Colaiacovo?



Andre Benoit?