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QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Sep 29 @ 12:31 PM ET
How often does a team carry 3 G into a season?

This isn't about willing. It's about cornering yourself and dealing with it.

Biro, UPL, and Bryson all need to go through waivers. IMO, this is more about managing that than starting with the best possible 13F. Do they care about potentially losing Bryson? No clue. UPL? I bet they do care.

- Lunaion


UPL will surely not make it through waivers.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 29 @ 12:32 PM ET
How often does a team carry 3 G into a season?

This isn't about willing. It's about cornering yourself and dealing with it.

Biro, UPL, and Bryson all need to go through waivers. IMO, this is more about managing that than starting with the best possible 13F. Do they care about potentially losing Bryson? No clue. UPL? I bet they do care.

- Lunaion

The people in "the know" that I've talked to on twitter and such have all said that UPL would be a goner this offseason.

I'm not sure they mind.


Not all Adam's fault but they fumbled selling when guys had some value

Olofsson, Jokiharju, and maybe UPL come to mind

Mittelstadt potentially but I think they love him and he's here long term barring something changing
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 29 @ 12:33 PM ET
I was worried this would happen after he got resigned. We were in a tight spot, so I get it, but both he and Hyde have been a little quite outside Hyde's one INT that was thrown right at him.
- QuinnFan

Signing Poyer + Oliver >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resigning Edmunds.

Can't fault them too much
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 29 @ 12:35 PM ET
UPL will surely not make it through waivers.
- QuinnFan


Probably wouldn't. Also been clearly outplayed, so they created a mess here.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Sep 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
Signing Poyer + Oliver >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resigning Edmunds.

Can't fault them too much

- sbroads24


I think Hyde was down at the same time, so yeah it makes sense. I just wish they would've tried to get a younger replacement for one of the two. Hamlin and Rapp aren't starting caliber players, even as prospects, IMO.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
Probably wouldn't. Also been clearly outplayed, so they created a mess here.
- Lunaion

Decisions coming sooner than expected! Funny
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 29 @ 12:40 PM ET
The people in "the know" that I've talked to on twitter and such have all said that UPL would be a goner this offseason.

I'm not sure they mind.


Not all Adam's fault but they fumbled selling when guys had some value

Olofsson, Jokiharju, and maybe UPL come to mind

Mittelstadt potentially but I think they love him and he's here long term barring something changing

- sbroads24


Holding guys too long has been a big KA problem.

Completely believe the closed door opinion on UPL, but losing him for nothing would be too embarrassing for them to risk.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 29 @ 12:41 PM ET
I think Hyde was down at the same time, so yeah it makes sense. I just wish they would've tried to get a younger replacement for one of the two. Hamlin and Rapp aren't starting caliber players, even as prospects, IMO.
- QuinnFan

Hamlin started what 11 games last year for the 4th ranked Defense. And hope Rapp shows, think he was brought here to be a option next year.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 29 @ 12:44 PM ET
Decisions coming sooner than expected! Funny
- Buff36


This is kind of the opposite. Issue has been coming for years and no one has lived up to expectations.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 29 @ 12:48 PM ET
This is kind of the opposite. Issue has been coming for years and no one has lived up to expectations.
- Lunaion

Well if you saw it and didn't say wait and lets slow play this for awhile.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
Holding guys too long has been a big KA problem.

Completely believe the closed door opinion on UPL, but losing him for nothing would be too embarrassing for them to risk.

- Lunaion


I wonder how they would handle the situation if UPL and Comrie's performances to this point were reversed
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 29 @ 12:52 PM ET
I think Hyde was down at the same time, so yeah it makes sense. I just wish they would've tried to get a younger replacement for one of the two. Hamlin and Rapp aren't starting caliber players, even as prospects, IMO.
- QuinnFan

https://www.espn.com/nfl/...xscore/_/gameId/401326638

Rapp was good enough to finish second in tackles for a super bowl win

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 29 @ 12:57 PM ET
I wonder how they would handle the situation if UPL and Comrie's performances to this point were reversed
- Hank Balling


Still think they signed Tokarski anticipating that they would waive Comrie and he'd possibly/likely be claimed.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
Ftfy
- IndianaSabresFan

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
UPL will surely not make it through waivers.
- QuinnFan


thats a shame
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:00 PM ET
Holding guys too long has been a big KA problem.

Completely believe the closed door opinion on UPL, but losing him for nothing would be too embarrassing for them to risk.

- Lunaion


when exactly did upl have this high end value?
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 29 @ 1:01 PM ET
when exactly did upl have this high end value?
- TheSabresTaco

Probably when he was rookie of the month that one time last season.


but idk...
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 29 @ 1:01 PM ET
when exactly did upl have this high end value?
- TheSabresTaco


Who said high end?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:02 PM ET
Who said high end?
- Lunaion


or (frank)in' any
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:03 PM ET
Probably when he was rookie of the month that one time last season.


but idk...

- jochfr


this perception that we should blame the gm for not selling upl for a quarter when he was our only goalie, and certain people here said "UPL needs to start without question" around Thanksgiving, instead of a dime today is (frank)ing stupid. It's a junk narrative.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 29 @ 1:04 PM ET
this perception that we should blame the gm for not selling upl for a quarter when he was our only goalie, and certain people here said "UPL needs to start without question", instead of a dime is (frank)ing stupid. It's a junk narrative.
- TheSabresTaco

agreed
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
and no, UPL had low prospective value because every scout in the league started to sour on him beyond his WJ win.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:08 PM ET
Feel free to blame Jason Botterill for not selling Victor Olofsson out of the Amerks.

Then like what the (frank) are we even talking about? A middling player loses a little value after you projected him to have better value and now people are (insert negative adjective) because we didn't get a 4th round pick for UPL immediately at his Thanksgiving high? Or a 2nd round pick when we needed some prospects to actually make the roster for (frank)ing once like Olofsson?

What a farce.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Every single team has guys who just don't pan out. Sometimes you see it early on, sometimes it takes a few seasons.

Hindsight is (frank)ing cool i guess

/r
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 29 @ 1:24 PM ET
Feel free to blame Jason Botterill for not selling Victor Olofsson out of the Amerks.

Then like what the (frank) are we even talking about? A middling player loses a little value after you projected him to have better value and now people are (insert negative adjective) because we didn't get a 4th round pick for UPL immediately at his Thanksgiving high? Or a 2nd round pick when we needed some prospects to actually make the roster for (frank)ing once like Olofsson?

What a farce.

- TheSabresTaco

It's one thing to hold onto someone too long if you're making the postseason.

Getting nothing for Olofsson after playing a ton of minutes and paying him good $ just to see his role slowly erode over time while you DON'T make the playoffs is bad asset managment.

Same with Jokiharju. RD are valuable. Young RD even more so
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