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theguvna
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 10.24.2019

Oct 9 @ 6:10 PM ET
New blog, courtesy of Harm at the Athletic. Just taking his little bit about Lafferty for y'all:
- NewYorkNuck



Thank you NYN
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 9 @ 6:31 PM ET
This guy, who provides some sandpaper and pk just got claimed off waivers, making league minimum

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=171577

- Reubenkincade

Aka a non scoring plug. đź‘Ž
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 9 @ 7:00 PM ET
Clocking in at 6-foot-2 and over 200 pounds, Lafferty brings a hardnosed game to the Canucks’ bottom six, a piece that’s been missing since Derek Dorsett’s career was cut short by injuries. But despite his bigger frame and physicality, Lafferty is best known for his speed, an element that the Canucks are especially deprived of across the current roster.
The 28-year-old also adds a right-handed centre to Rick Tocchet’s options and, combined with his quick skating and heavy-hitting, makes Lafferty an ideal option for the Canucks’ penalty-killing unit. Think Tyler Motte, but taller.
Sounds like worth a look for a 5th round pick and could be turned into something better down the road if they play their cards right.
CallmeTiny
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.02.2017

Oct 9 @ 8:22 PM ET
Thanks Michael.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 9 @ 8:26 PM ET
Sounds like worth a look for a 5th round pick and could be turned into something better down the road if they play their cards right.
- manvanfan


Probably could have plucked him off waivers if you waited another hour...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 9 @ 8:59 PM ET
Probably could have plucked him off waivers if you waited another hour...
- 1970vintage

Could have watched him play for another team then too.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 9 @ 9:05 PM ET
Probably could have plucked him off waivers if you waited another hour...
- 1970vintage

I’m not sure about probably, 10 teams have waiver rights before Vancouver and the 5th round pick is probably around 140-150 OA, not a big deal in my take.
The blog by NYNuck gave a pretty good outline of why Allvin traded that highly coveted 5th round pick.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 9 @ 9:11 PM ET
I’m not sure about probably, 10 teams have waiver rights before Vancouver and the 5th round pick is probably around 140-150 OA, not a big deal in my take.
The blog by NYNuck gave a pretty good outline of why Allvin traded that highly coveted 5th round pick.

- Makita

Lafftery will wear number 18. Last worn by the guy they put on waivers to pick him up, Jack Studnicka. They found a "try hard" guy who can actually play hockey as well.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 9 @ 9:21 PM ET
Thanks Michael.
- CallmeTiny

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 9 @ 9:24 PM ET
Lafftery will wear number 18. Last worn by the guy they put on waivers to pick him up, Jack Studnicka. They found a "try hard" guy who can actually play hockey as well.
- manvanfan


Plus they save money on paying scouts to scout 5th rounders.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 9 @ 9:27 PM ET
I’m not sure about probably, 10 teams have waiver rights before Vancouver and the 5th round pick is probably around 140-150 OA, not a big deal in my take.
The blog by NYNuck gave a pretty good outline of why Allvin traded that highly coveted 5th round pick.

- Makita


Wasn't that the same blogger that was just raving about Studnicka, in last week's blog?

At about each of those 2 players, they both have or had the same amount of points at the same age.

Anyways, I a tally haven't minded the few times I watched Lafferty, back in his Pittsburgh days. He plays hard and goes to the hard areas, unlike Joshua who does that 4 games a season.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 9 @ 9:27 PM ET
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 9 @ 9:28 PM ET

Plus they save money on paying scouts to scout 5th rounders.

- A_SteamingLombardi


manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 9 @ 9:34 PM ET

Plus they save money on paying scouts to scout 5th rounders.

- A_SteamingLombardi

I like the argument that Soucy, Garland, Joshua are 5th round picks. So was Forsling. So was Ethan Bear, Tucker Poolman. 60, 5th rounders played at least 1 game last season from 2005 to 2020.

16 years of drafting in 5th round. 496 ish picks made in the 5th round. That's about 10% make the NHL. Probably less than half of those are any good honestly.

Giving up a later round pick on more than one occasion for an actual NHL player is probably a decent bet.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 9 @ 10:02 PM ET
https://www.eliteprospect...er/618880/matvei-shuravin

https://twitter.com/Hocke...tatus/1711424404939219252

With whatever pick the Canucks have in the 2024 draft they select that kid.

I know this because he's a Dan Milstein client.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 9 @ 10:03 PM ET
I like the argument that Soucy, Garland, Joshua are 5th round picks. So was Forsling. So was Ethan Bear, Tucker Poolman. 60, 5th rounders played at least 1 game last season from 2005 to 2020.

16 years of drafting in 5th round. 496 ish picks made in the 5th round. That's about 10% make the NHL. Probably less than half of those are any good honestly.

Giving up a later round pick on more than one occasion for an actual NHL player is probably a decent bet.

- manvanfan


The 5th round is 1 of the Canucks more successful rounds in that timeframe, as they have selected Forsling, Hutton, Gaudette and the great Frankie Corrado.
They had 17 5th round picks during that time, for a success rate of 23.5%.



Sad when your scouting team is better in the 5th round than the 4 rounds before then.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 9 @ 10:13 PM ET
The 5th round is 1 of the Canucks more successful rounds 8n that timeframe, as they have selected Ted Forsling, Hutton, Gaudette and the great Frankie Corrado.
They had 17 5th round picks during that time, for a success rate of 23.5%.



Sad when your scouting team is better in the 5th round than the 4 rounds before then.

- Reubenkincade

You forgot Ben Hutton

Canucks are batting 50% for 1st rounders that have played 200 plus games. Through that time period. Just not enough have lived up to certain standards.

Scouting got much better during the Jim Benning period he was there. Impossible not too to better considering the Gillis era might have actually been the worst drafting period in hockey ever.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 9 @ 10:15 PM ET


Dan Milstein
@HockeyAgent1
Re: Ilya Mikheyev #Canucks Good evening, I wanted to clear up Ilya Mikheyev’s injury situation in Vancouver. Every player heals differently. He’s been working very hard to get ready, just needs a bit more time and then will be back in the lineup. The Canucks have been great in working with Ilya during his surgery and rehabilitation. I know he soon will be ready and hungry to play. #WeAreGoldStar!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 9 @ 10:22 PM ET
Cap gymnastic Ed 101…

https://canucksarmy.com/n...ns-cap-now-moving-forward
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 9 @ 10:23 PM ET
Dan Milstein
@HockeyAgent1
Re: Ilya Mikheyev #Canucks Good evening, I wanted to clear up Ilya Mikheyev’s injury situation in Vancouver. Every player heals differently. He’s been working very hard to get ready, just needs a bit more time and then will be back in the lineup. The Canucks have been great in working with Ilya during his surgery and rehabilitation. I know he soon will be ready and hungry to play. #WeAreGoldStar!

- manvanfan

đź‘Ť
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 9 @ 10:31 PM ET
You forgot Ben Hutton

Canucks are batting 50% for 1st rounders that have played 200 plus games. Through that time period. Just not enough have lived up to certain standards.

Scouting got much better during the Jim Benning period he was there. Impossible not too to better considering the Gillis era might have actually been the worst drafting period in hockey ever.

- manvanfan


No, he is 2nd on the list of 4.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 9 @ 10:57 PM ET
Could have watched him play for another team then too.
- manvanfan



I mean, I don’t really care what your team does or doesn’t do, just that another team thought better of a coveted 5th round pick and the extra $300k than to keep him. A team, who has been desperately seeking that tough to play against type of player.

Maybe he’ll be better than whatever other 4th liner you sent down, but has the 4th line really been THE problem over the past several seasons?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 9 @ 11:06 PM ET
Dan Milstein
@HockeyAgent1
Re: Ilya Mikheyev #Canucks Good evening, I wanted to clear up Ilya Mikheyev’s injury situation in Vancouver. Every player heals differently. He’s been working very hard to get ready, just needs a bit more time and then will be back in the lineup. The Canucks have been great in working with Ilya during his surgery and rehabilitation. I know he soon will be ready and hungry to play. #WeAreGoldStar!

- manvanfan


What a mistake it was letting him play through injury for a month plus before pulling him out of the line up. Now he's behind and not ready... just (frank)ing dumb.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 10 @ 12:02 AM ET
What a mistake it was letting him play through injury for a month plus before pulling him out of the line up. Now he's behind and not ready... just (frank)ing dumb.

- boonerbuck

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 10 @ 12:04 AM ET
I mean, I don’t really care what your team does or doesn’t do, just that another team thought better of a coveted 5th round pick and the extra $300k than to keep him. A team, who has been desperately seeking that tough to play against type of player.

Maybe he’ll be better than whatever other 4th liner you sent down, but has the 4th line really been THE problem over the past several seasons?

- 1970vintage

Yes the 4th line HAS really been a problem. Of course not THE problem. Poorly phrased question.
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