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Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Sep 20 @ 2:21 PM ET
His goal scoring numbers are actually better without Marner.
- GreatGigInTheSky



They are indeed. 34 scored 50 with either Marner or Willy. It just doesn’t matter. Could get an extra few with one vs other maybe but ultimately he pots with anyone. Proved that as a rookie with Johnsson and kappenen and brown and Hyman etc. he’s just a scorer. Give or take a few but team success does not depend on 34 with either of them.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 20 @ 2:22 PM ET
More flashy =/= play better.

The team clearly and visibly plays better with Nylander on Matthews' wing and Marner on Tavares'. Debate with a wall.

- GreatGigInTheSky



Pretty ironic considering how this convo is going.

Have a good day.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 20 @ 2:27 PM ET
Still waiting.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Sep 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
I see everyone is dusting off the old boxing gloves, getting in fighting shape for the season.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
I am low class, I don't really care to deny it. Remember when GM Brian Burke said that JVR "played C" before and would be their "top choice as 1st line centre?" Brian was talking (frank)ing poop. JVR hadn't played centre since he was 15.

I don't trust any of those idiots or the NHL.com putting a C/D on their position. It's as easy as checking their junior stats. They keep them all. Faceoffs taken etc. It's easier than watching the games, and if you can't, then it's a better barometer than media bullpoop.

Name me one established WINGER to move to CENTRE in the past 15 years.

One.

- AdamFrench


Giroux was drafted as a RW, played C for the majority of his career, and is now a LW because he’s 35.

As for Nylander he’s doing it during preseason. If you get upset about this you’re nothing but an overly sensitive judgemental man.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 20 @ 2:35 PM ET


Name me one established WINGER to move to CENTRE in the past 15 years.

One.

- AdamFrench

I was curious, so I went to the Googles.

This is from a five-year-old Reddit thread, so I have no idea if it is true or not, but here are some answers:

Giroux was drafted as a RW.

Messier was drafted as a LW.

Henrik Zetterberg.

Sebastian Aho.

Joe Pavelski.

Kuznetsov.

Bryan Little (Atlanta needed him to play centre).

Eric Fehr (and there's a debate on the thread if this is true or not).

David Backes played centre for a bit.

Jonathan Druin when Stamkos was out.

Jamie Benn.






systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 20 @ 2:36 PM ET
Still waiting.
- AdamFrench



Sum 41
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 20 @ 2:38 PM ET
An established NHL winger who moved to centre.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 20 @ 2:40 PM ET
I'm not for or against Nylander at center but I just don't see how it makes the team better with him in that position. Does it mean Tavares to the wing or Nylander or Tavares to the third line? If one of them goes to the 3rd line it reduces their minutes and it waters down the right side. Not sure we're a better team that way but time will tell.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 20 @ 2:41 PM ET
An established NHL winger who moved to centre.
- AdamFrench


Oh! Examples were given, better make your argument more detailed.

*shakes head*

Giroux, played both C and wings throughout his entire career. Can you seriously continue to argue his versatility?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 20 @ 2:44 PM ET
There's probably not many wingers who moved to centre because they didn't have to.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 20 @ 2:45 PM ET
Let the hunt begin.
Ya dont steal someone's food.
Total douche canoe move

- Fakepartofme


I was dreaming of those fries xtreme too. Bastards.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 20 @ 2:46 PM ET
There's probably not many wingers who moved to centre because they didn't have to.
- Zezel


Also this makes me wonder if the leafs will have a different game this year. If they require defensive skill at C Nylander is the wrong guy. However if they want the C to focus on offence while a the wingers focus a bit more on D I could see it work.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 20 @ 2:46 PM ET
There's probably not many wingers who moved to centre because they didn't have to.
- Zezel



Makes me think....with Matthews and Tavares at center do we have to make this move?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
Makes me think....with Matthews and Tavares at center do we have to make this move?
- systemtool


Not really. But it's preseason, and this core has played together for a long time now. Good time to experiment, see what happens.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 20 @ 2:51 PM ET
I just (frank)ing hope they do what O-Dog was saying with PP1. Will Nye and Matthews on each side, Marner in the middle, JT net front. Fire it up.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 20 @ 2:51 PM ET
Not really. But it's preseason, and this core has played together for a long time now. Good time to experiment, see what happens.
- Zezel



Yea I'm down for trying it out and seeing how it goes. From my perspective I dont think it's what's best for the team but I've never coached a day in my life so I'm really not that qualified to make any definite assessments lol
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 20 @ 2:52 PM ET
Not really. But it's preseason, and this core has played together for a long time now. Good time to experiment, see what happens.
- Zezel


This. If it works, great, if not, flipping JT and Nylander back won’t be a difficult thing to do.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 20 @ 2:52 PM ET
Not really. But it's preseason, and this core has played together for a long time now. Good time to experiment, see what happens.
- Zezel

That and its more proof that McDavid will be a leaf.
Whats the proof you ask?
The proof is the proof....is the proof.
Nuff said.
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Sep 20 @ 2:52 PM ET
new blog everyone
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 20 @ 2:54 PM ET
new blog everyone
- mikeinbuffalo



wake me up when its a new blogger.


just kidding. love you mikeypoo
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 20 @ 2:57 PM ET
Giroux was drafted as a RW, played C for the majority of his career, and is now a LW because he’s 35.

As for Nylander he’s doing it during preseason. If you get upset about this you’re nothing but an overly sensitive judgemental man.

- Dozzer



Why does this sound sooo familiar.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Sep 20 @ 3:32 PM ET
Every winger can be a center, but not every winger is good at it.

Every center can play wing, but not every center likes it.

- GalacticStone


This post reminded me of these words of wisdom lol



Farting when pooping -


Pooping when farting -
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Sep 20 @ 4:19 PM ET
Sheldon Keefe says William Nylander will start camp at centre tomorrow.
Obviously was drafted as a centre but hasn’t done too much during his time here in Toronto. Keefe wants to look at it now in a more meaningful way.

-Lebrun

Reenforces my Pat Kane idea

- Santo_44


Your idea? Are you Ek's alt? I read several articles about the league minimum and signing Kane with incentive bonuses earlier this week LOL
The Judge
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 08.30.2021

Sep 20 @ 6:32 PM ET
Your idea? Are you Ek's alt? I read several articles about the league minimum and signing Kane with incentive bonuses earlier this week LOL
- jribout





I think everyone has read multiple tweets or articles on the subject.
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