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Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Sep 17 @ 12:43 PM ET
Thanks, didn’t get a chance to watch the game.
- Angotti

2nd goal probs put a big ol’ smile on Kaner’s face. 3rd goal he was casually slinging it. Just. Awesome.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Sep 17 @ 12:55 PM ET
Hat trick. Big deal.

#overrated

- HawkintheD


I expected more, Chief.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 17 @ 12:59 PM ET
Lets say that two young dmen have go for help up front, which two are you moving out of Allan, Del Mastro, Kaiser, Phillips, and Vlasic?
- Angotti

Allan and Phillips.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 17 @ 1:11 PM ET
Lets say that two young dmen have go for help up front, which two are you moving out of Allan, Del Mastro, Kaiser, Phillips, and Vlasic?
- Angotti


I think it comes down to Vlasic, Kaiser & Del Mastro and I wouldn’t be surprised to se a rotation throughout the season.

But to start, I’d say Vlasic has the best chance then Kaiser.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 17 @ 1:39 PM ET
I think it comes down to Vlasic, Kaiser & Del Mastro and I wouldn’t be surprised to se a rotation throughout the season.

But to start, I’d say Vlasic has the best chance then Kaiser.

- DarthKane

He was asking who would be traded, DK.

Kaiser will be in the line-up on opening night.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Sep 17 @ 2:17 PM ET
Lets say that two young dmen have go for help up front, which two are you moving out of Allan, Del Mastro, Kaiser, Phillips, and Vlasic?
- Angotti


Tough question because none of them really bring back much help in terms of value. All of them are left handed and all of the are waiver exempt. I would have to say based on contact/age/performance/upside it would probably be Phillips/Vlasic that get moved. I don't think any of them will get moved in the near future and the Hawks will probably give most of them a look as the season progresses unless 1 or 2 of them really shine and hold a spot down.

I actually think Roos is the young ELC D probable to actually get moved this season (depending obviously on what happens with our vets, injuries, etc.)

What the Hawks prospect pool needs is another Right Handed D. We have Rinzel, Crevier, Krutil, Kelley. After Rinzel, not much to be too excited about IMO.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 17 @ 2:52 PM ET
Look at the Wild fan in the Wild jacket

https://x.com/CHGO_Blackh.../1703223711166283778?s=20

- vabeachbear



They don't have to worry about summer flies inside that arena...
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Sep 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
Allen was solid, played his game. Solid in his own zone, perfect partner for Korchinski. Btw, outside of Bedard, Korchinski and Kaiser were stars 2 and 3 in my opinion.
- ChicagoHope


Missed the game, good to hear that Allan played OK. He is a good east-west type guy to match Korchinski's north-south.

If he is playing the off-side RD or both sides in Rockford, I would expect him to start a little slowly, and barely score initially as he focuses on defense at the higher level. His defense first focus should make him an NHL regular in a couple of years.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
You know i was thinking about Pinto and if they can't sign him I'm sure the Blackhawks could come up with some kind of trade package for him. Question is, is he worth TB 1st round pick?

Another question is, is Pinto KDs kind of player?

- BetweenTheDots


Yeah, right now, if you traded that second 1st Round pick, and it's gone before you know the season and playoff results that the Lightning have.
Or where the Blackhawks pick is.

If their first is a top two, that means another forward gets drafted (and that is terrific).
If their own pick is somewhere floundering in the top ten, there would seem to be a better chance 50-50 on defense or forward (and then the TB later first is most definitely defense.)

So the question for GM Wiz is whether Pinto is a necessary trade get b/c he is closer to ready than the guy the Hawks take early first in 2024 at forward. (Both Celebrini & Eiserman play soon).

And to answer the first part of your question if Pinto is even worth that Lightning pick. The 2024 Draft class is a little bit better than average but if the Lightning win the Cup of have a long playoff run, this second first might be worth that late 2024 selection that I was adding defenseman depth.

Nah, on second thought, pass.


Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Sep 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
Yeah, right now, if you traded that second 1st Round pick, and it's gone before you know the season and playoff results that the Lightning have.
Or where the Blackhawks pick is.

If their first is a top two, that means another forward gets drafted (and that is terrific).
If their own pick is somewhere floundering in the top ten, there would seem to be a better chance 50-50 on defense or forward (and then the TB later first is most definitely defense.)

So the question for GM Wiz is whether Pinto is a necessary trade get b/c he is closer to ready than the guy the Hawks take early first in 2024 at forward. (Both Celebrini & Eiserman play soon).

And to answer the first part of your question if Pinto is even worth that Lightning pick. The 2024 Draft class is a little bit better than average but if the Lightning win the Cup of have a long playoff run, this second first might be worth that late 2024 selection that I was adding defenseman depth.

Nah, on second thought, pass.

- wiz1901
I know pito is the hot topic but wiz in your opinion what is his ceiling and floor? Would pito be worth two 2nd rounders or a 2025 toronto's 1st?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
Yeah, right now, if you traded that second 1st Round pick, and it's gone before you know the season and playoff results that the Lightning have.
Or where the Blackhawks pick is.

If their first is a top two, that means another forward gets drafted (and that is terrific).
If their own pick is somewhere floundering in the top ten, there would seem to be a better chance 50-50 on defense or forward (and then the TB later first is most definitely defense.)

So the question for GM Wiz is whether Pinto is a necessary trade get b/c he is closer to ready than the guy the Hawks take early first in 2024 at forward. (Both Celebrini & Eiserman play soon).

And to answer the first part of your question if Pinto is even worth that Lightning pick. The 2024 Draft class is a little bit better than average but if the Lightning win the Cup of have a long playoff run, this second first might be worth that late 2024 selection that I was adding defenseman depth.

Nah, on second thought, pass.

- wiz1901


Personally i would rather see what kind of 1st round pick we are trading away. That's just me, would do a 2nd and maybe they want one of our 4th line forwards?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Sep 17 @ 4:26 PM ET
Ludwinski is a 200 foot puck hound. I guess the question about him is does he have any offense.
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Sep 17 @ 4:41 PM ET
Saarela had a good first period. Front of net on Rolston goal, drew a penalty, SOG on rush.

Allan seemed to be in the right place mostly, good push to get the assist. Korchinski OK except for the oops on the PP. Crevier good net protect on the PK.

BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 17 @ 4:42 PM ET
Ludwinski is a 200 foot puck hound. I guess the question about him is does he have any offense.
- LAHawk


68 isn't bad either, they look a little sluggish, even so they keep pumping those legs
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Sep 17 @ 4:49 PM ET
Lets say that two young dmen have go for help up front, which two are you moving out of Allan, Del Mastro, Kaiser, Phillips, and Vlasic?
- Angotti

Doubtful they trade any young dmen any time soon. If they did, they would get a prospect - forward or other position - with flaws. We would not get anything better in a prospect than the quality man
Prospect we trade.

Kaiser and Korchinski will not be traded. The other dmen will have opportunities to develop and make the team. Some may wind up moving to another organization but I doubt that KD trades any of the kids any time soon. The prospects who fail to make the grade here likely move in with little or no return value if they even get traded.

There could be a situation come along like the Boston trade but more likely they move on when KD determines they have no future here. KD will just plug in more prospects and some make it while others get cut loose

The draft is where KD will rely upon for future top players as well as other roles. Surely KD will always have some veterans and once the team is pretty good then he might sign a free agent or try to trade for a top player

I would be surprised if anyone on the board disagrees with this. Pretty much this is how KD will operate/construct the roster
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Sep 17 @ 4:53 PM ET
It looked to me kike Dach scored that third goal, not Lardis
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 17 @ 4:59 PM ET
Did he just say Stan Bowman is here? Moron
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Sep 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
I expect no major roster moves under KD until perhaps the trade deadline when he likely will consider dumping some veterans. If Chicago actually hangs around longer than expected sniffing the last playoff spot, perhaps KD doesn’t move anyone or merely swaps out a veteran for another veteran or a flyer on a sort of failed prospect like the players he gave a look last season. That would be a Bjork & Wagner I think was the fast skating wing from LA

I am more attuned and expecting that at various points in season and particularly after trade deadline ….KD will give prospects one or more look see and opportunity to stick. Playoffs this year not likely. I also would not expect a minute crunching veteran in S Jones to be moved until at least two kids come in and establish themselves as too four
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 17 @ 5:13 PM ET
Korchinski is not ready for prime time. He needs to develop a shot if he is going to be on the PP.

BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 17 @ 5:14 PM ET
Korchinski is not ready for prime time. He needs to develop a shot if he is going to be on the PP.
- Elbows15


I was thinking the same thing. He needs to get better at playing defense as well
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 17 @ 5:15 PM ET
Saarela had a good first period. Front of net on Rolston goal, drew a penalty, SOG on rush.

Allan seemed to be in the right place mostly, good push to get the assist. Korchinski OK except for the oops on the PP. Crevier good net protect on the PK.

- totem

Allan made two terrible passes that led to the first two Wild goals.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 17 @ 5:16 PM ET
I was thinking the same thing. He needs to get better at playing defense as well
- BetweenTheDots

And I am still waiting to be impressed with his skating. Kaiser is a better skater rn.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Sep 17 @ 5:19 PM ET
Babcock resigns as Columbus coach.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 17 @ 5:27 PM ET
Babcock resigns as Columbus coach.
- boilermaker100


Hahaha, CBJ i believe half the bloggers here can run that franchise better than that gm, hahaha
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Sep 17 @ 5:28 PM ET
Babcock resigns as Columbus coach.
- boilermaker100


That didn't take long.
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