It’s not really about the money, but rather, letting them think they won by having to pay for the kids services.
- Dave21Brown

I’m probably wrong, but I think the MOU between NHL and Russia Hockey doesn’t permit the team to pay the money.

I asked you this before when you invoked Putin. Why does Putin want to keep players out of the NHL? There is no direct evidence on why his Dad was killed. That it was related to Michkov and his future as an NHL player is complete speculation. Putin has been in power for what, 20 years? Name all of the Russian players that Putin has kept out of the NHL?
- MJL

In fact, Putin seems to revel in the notion that he and Ovie are friends/friendly and I’m sure from a nationalist point of view having guys like Ovie, Shesterkin, Kucherov and Vassy dominate the NHL is something encouraged. So there’s no logical reason Putin & Co don’t want these guys playing in the NHL.

When Michkov's current 3 year contract with the KHL expires. What would there be for the IIHF to rule on that would keep him out of the NHL?
- MJL

nothing when the contract is expired. but that wasn't the conversation was it.

He did. His Russian hockey club filed a case with the US District Court saying that he had a contract with them. The case was dismissed.
- Minnyhock

Thanks for the info 👍

yea, wasn't clear, wanted to infer he wasn't, why the concern over him. I think at this point you could say his chances of being an NHL D are better than not, and he has an intriguing skill set and size.
- wcorvette

I think his chances of passing through waivers are significantly better than not.

In fact, Putin seems to revel in the notion that he and Ovie are friends/friendly and I’m sure from a nationalist point of view having guys like Ovie, Shesterkin, Kucherov and Vassy dominate the NHL is something encouraged. So there’s no logical reason Putin & Co don’t want these guys playing in the NHL.
- mikeyo27

You used Putin and the word logic in the same sentence

nothing when the contract is expired. but that wasn't the conversation was it.
- Peter Richards

Maybe it wasn't to you but when would someone expect Michkov to leave Russia for the NHL? When his current contract expires. Which is why the expectation is that it is a 3 year wait for Michkov.

You used Putin and the word logic in the same sentence
- hfc355

His reply actually is the case or at least what has been the case. Your premise is not.

I asked you this before when you invoked Putin. Why does Putin want to keep players out of the NHL? There is no direct evidence on why his Dad was killed. That it was related to Michkov and his future as an NHL player is complete speculation. Putin has been in power for what, 20 years? Name all of the Russian players that Putin has kept out of the NHL?
- MJL

The environment changed completely the last 2 yrs.

I think his chances of passing through waivers are significantly better than not.
- MJL

agree, and I think Zamula will be one of the final cuts, but if you can leave nothing to chance, then by all means do so. Rosters at the end of camp, injuries around the league will be key for the Flyers. Keeping him on the NHL roster might be the best play, let rosters settle and the season start. At the very least, if he is close to another D that is waiver exempt, you should probably go with Z.

I hope he is lights out or struggles to the point where other teams stay away.

The environment changed completely the last 2 yrs.
- hfc355

Really, how? What has changed in terms of Russian players coming over to the NHL?

Maybe it wasn't to you but when would someone expect Michkov to leave Russia for the NHL? When his current contract expires. Which is why the expectation is that it is a 3 year wait for Michkov.
- MJL

the question was why doesn't he sign and come early. as they did not respect fedotov's contract....wasn't my question

the question was why doesn't he sign and come early. as they did not respect fedotov's contract.
- Peter Richards

Its been said Fedotov didnt want to come over. So there is that. Its not really the same situation. Fedotov signed a new contract, and by some accounts there was confusion as to whether or not he actually had a contract with the Flyers since technically his contract from the year before was "tolled".

Michkov has an existing contract, that is why he wouldnt sign and come over early unless released from his existing contract. Michkovs situation is much more black and white than all the gray areas surrounding Fedotov.

Bill, I used to walk from around 22nd and Locust where I lived in my late 20's to the Civic Center to see the games. I was always taking pics, and snuck a flask with kahlua in the camera bag. Hot Chocolate and Kahlua, cheap seats, the Firebirds. Or my buddy and I would wait to get home and make a similar drink with shaved chocolate and whipped cream to get the chill off after walking home.

I used to have pics of Brian Burke from those days, a rookie with a full head of red hair, Terry Murray and all the rest when they came in from Maine..think I even saw Rudy Tacjnar with a black eye playing there....he made Phil Kessel look slender.

the question was why doesn't he sign and come early. as they did not respect fedotov's contract....wasn't my question
- Peter Richards

He can't. It's generally accepted that Michkov will not be coming over for three years.

Its been said Fedotov didnt want to come over. So there is that. Its not really the same situation. Fedotov signed a new contract, and by some accounts there was confusion as to whether or not he actually had a contract with the Flyers since technically his contract from the year before was "tolled".

Michkov has an existing contract, that is why he wouldnt sign and come over early unless released from his existing contract. Michkovs situation is much more black and white than all the gray areas surrounding Fedotov.
- MBFlyerfan

The Fedotov situation is such an outlier in many ways. Many for some reason want to use it as the basis for heavy concern with Mitchkov. Then there is "Putin" angle.

The Fedotov situation is such an outlier in many ways. Many for some reason want to use it as the basis for heavy concern with Mitchkov. Then there is "Putin" angle.
- MJL

Not just an outlier, but pretty much unique.

The Fedotov situation is such an outlier in many ways. Many for some reason want to use it as the basis for heavy concern with Mitchkov. Then there is "Putin" angle.
- MJL

Putin lives rest free. He’s probably up all night scheming so he can tell Rotten what the next Michkov move is.

I’m probably wrong, but I think the MOU between NHL and Russia Hockey doesn’t permit the team to pay the money.
- mikeyo27

The MOU is dead. NHL canceled it after the Ukraine invasion. The two sides abides by the terms until the CSKA/Fedotov thing. Now it's essentially dead (although Bill Daly said the NHL doesn't want a poaching war over contracted players).

I’m probably wrong, but I think the MOU between NHL and Russia Hockey doesn’t permit the team to pay the money.
- mikeyo27

I think the MOU is null and void after the fedotov fiasco now

Not just an outlier, but pretty much unique.
- MBFlyerfan

We may as well get used to kicking this dead horse for 3 more years...

Its been said Fedotov didnt want to come over. So there is that. Its not really the same situation. Fedotov signed a new contract, and by some accounts there was confusion as to whether or not he actually had a contract with the Flyers since technically his contract from the year before was "tolled".

Michkov has an existing contract, that is why he wouldnt sign and come over early unless released from his existing contract. Michkovs situation is much more black and white than all the gray areas surrounding Fedotov.
- MBFlyerfan

Did you guys even read what I wrote.

For fedotov I was told before there was no evidence that he wouldn’t be coming over lmao.

Its been said Fedotov didnt want to come over. So there is that. Its not really the same situation. Fedotov signed a new contract, and by some accounts there was confusion as to whether or not he actually had a contract with the Flyers since technically his contract from the year before was "tolled".

Michkov has an existing contract, that is why he wouldnt sign and come over early unless released from his existing contract. Michkovs situation is much more black and white than all the gray areas surrounding Fedotov.
- MBFlyerfan

It's been said by CSKA-affiliated people that Fedotov didn't want to come over. All the player himself has said publicly is that he just wants to play hockey at this point, wherever that is. He also didn't deny that CSKA management was behind his arrest and conscription. Instead, he said "it doesn't matter who was behind it."

Realistically, CSKA was the path of least resistance after all Fedotov went through last year and given the fact that he missed a full year of hockey and wasn't able to properly train until the latter half of this summer following his military discharge.

Did you guys even read what I wrote.

For fedotov I was told before there was no evidence that he wouldn’t be coming over lmao.
- Peter Richards

Actually, what you said was that he wouldn't be coming over for a very long time. At the time of that discussion taking place, there was no evidence that was true.

He can't. It's generally accepted that Michkov will not be coming over for three years.
- MJL

Yes. Fully aware. Never said otherwise