Sure, but that has nothing to do with “being able to catch a break”. They’ve been a very fortunate franchise throughout their history.
- Pacificgem

They've also had plenty of bad luck. I think it was just a figure of speech out of frustration.

Sure, but that has nothing to do with “being able to catch a break”. They’ve been a very fortunate franchise throughout their history.
- Pacificgem

They've also had plenty of bad luck. I think it was just a figure of speech out of frustration.

They've also had plenty of bad luck. I think it was just a figure of speech out of frustration.
- MJL

I think every franchise has their share of good and bad fortune, some are definitely luckier than other though, hello Pittsburgh and Edmonton, and I would personally put the Flyers in that column, although not to that level.

I'm not sure if its luck or good work but they've been fortunate since their beginnings with taking Bobby Clarke in the second round in 1969, only three NHL players in history have more Hart Trophies than him. Getting Bill Barber seventh overall in 1972, most points out of that draft, stealing Parent, MacLeish and Leach in trades. They've just predominantly been really lucky for a lot of their history. Until recently.

I just have to say this about all the Hart talk. It’s one thing to speculate on trades as all players deal with that to some extent, but this is not that. No matter what, it isn’t right to continue to speculate about every little thing he does, says, doesn’t say, or the Flyers do regarding goalies with the constant assumption that it’s related to being involved in this scandal. Some of the talk and even articles call for him to never play again. In the event that he was not involved, do you think any of the folks doing the pot stirring and nasty writing are going to apologize and reflect on their poor judgment? Do they ever? How would you feel to be talked about in that manner, if innocent. In the event that he was involved, this isn’t something that one should want to rush ahead with reporting just so they can seem first or informed. That’s just ugly. Stop speculating if you don’t have double-layered concrete proof!

Ersson was already signed for this upcoming season. The two goalies they drafted are 18 years old and are 4-7 years away from playing in the NHL. How was it the writing on the wall?
- MJL

Flyers have also worked their tails of to get Fedotov to come over. Something is brewing here. And it's not beer.

I just have to say this about all the Hart talk. It’s one thing to speculate on trades as all players deal with that to some extent, but this is not that. No matter what, it isn’t right to continue to speculate about every little thing he does, says, doesn’t say, or the Flyers do regarding goalies with the constant assumption that it’s related to being involved in this scandal. Some of the talk and even articles call for him to never play again. In the event that he was not involved, do you think any of the folks doing the pot stirring and nasty writing are going to apologize and reflect on their poor judgment? Do they ever? How would you feel to be talked about in that manner, if innocent. In the event that he was involved, this isn’t something that one should want to rush ahead with reporting just so they can seem first or informed. That’s just ugly. Stop speculating if you don’t have double-layered concrete proof!
- NC Flyers Fan

There’s absolutely nothing to suggest that he was part of the assault. Making or not making a public statement and your social media settings mean nothing. But people are always going to speculate about public figures. Until arrests are made everybody on that team is going to be under a cloud. If he’s not one of the people charged, people are going to forget about his Instagram settings.

I think every franchise has their share of good and bad fortune, some are definitely luckier than other though, hello Pittsburgh and Edmonton, and I would personally put the Flyers in that column, although not to that level.

I'm not sure if its luck or good work but they've been fortunate since their beginnings with taking Bobby Clarke in the second round in 1969, only three NHL players in history have more Hart Trophies than him. Getting Bill Barber seventh overall in 1972, most points out of that draft, stealing Parent, MacLeish and Leach in trades. They've just predominantly been really lucky for a lot of their history. Until recently.
- Dave21Brown

To me the early days were a lot about the brilliance of Keith Allen and a top flight owner. The Flyers has advantages through the 70's and 80's. Unfortunately, as the league changed. The Flyers have never adapted to the modern day NHL.

I just have to say this about all the Hart talk. It’s one thing to speculate on trades as all players deal with that to some extent, but this is not that. No matter what, it isn’t right to continue to speculate about every little thing he does, says, doesn’t say, or the Flyers do regarding goalies with the constant assumption that it’s related to being involved in this scandal. Some of the talk and even articles call for him to never play again. In the event that he was not involved, do you think any of the folks doing the pot stirring and nasty writing are going to apologize and reflect on their poor judgment? Do they ever? How would you feel to be talked about in that manner, if innocent. In the event that he was involved, this isn’t something that one should want to rush ahead with reporting just so they can seem first or informed. That’s just ugly. Stop speculating if you don’t have double-layered concrete proof!
- NC Flyers Fan

Well said. This is most likely why he went dark on social media. It's a nasty environment.

Flyers have also worked their tails of to get Fedotov to come over. Something is brewing here. And it's not beer.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

I'm not sure about that. They drafted him and signed him to a contract. What else have they done?

There’s absolutely nothing to suggest that he was part of the assault. Making or not making a public statement and your social media settings mean nothing. But people are always going to speculate about public figures. Until arrests are made everybody on that team is going to be under a cloud. If he’s not one of the people charged, people are going to forget about his Instagram settings.
- Canada Cup

I understand that when the scandal first broke, names were inevitably thrown around, and I understand the cloud which can’t be helped. But since then it’s been speculation city….

He is too old, trade him…oh wait, can’t, the scandal…
He isn’t elite, trade him…oh wait, can’t, the scandal…
His contract will be too much, trade him…oh wait, can’t, the scandal…
Flyers drafted two goalies, trade Hart…oh wait, can’t, the scandal…
Flyers sign goalie prospect, trade Hart…oh wait, can’t, the scandal…
Flyers re-signed a goalie prospect, trade Hart…oh wait, can’t, the scandal…
NHL supports a tolled contract for a Flyers goalie, trade Hart…oh wait, can’t, the scandal…
Hart changes his Instagram page…ohhhh, trade or scandal?

Yikes
Oh how could I forget, Flyers also acquired a goalie in trade…
If he wasn’t sick of everything “Flyers” before this summer, can you blame him now?

Hart has gone private on Instagram. Pulled Flyers logos down.
- WhiskeyMan

going to jail?

going to jail?
- 2Real

Just stop it

going to jail?
- 2Real

It was all going to be private, not so long time ago.

https://www.google.com/am...ault-report-complete/amp/

Just stop it
- NC Flyers Fan

at least we're going to punish hart unlike the blackhawks organization

Huh?
- MJL

My point was sarcasm based on reality. The police state has emerged and if you don’t subscribe to the narrative your going down.
While I agree with the premise sadly lawfare is alive and pervasive.
As far as Hart goes I haven’t followed the case so I don’t know what happened.
I’ll reserve my judgement for when the facts come out.
I’m sure many people remember the Duke Lacrosse incident.

at least we're going to punish hart unlike the blackhawks organization
- 2Real

Stop assuming you know the guilty before a report is made public or sentencing occurs.

My point was sarcasm based on reality. The police state has emerged and if you don’t subscribe to the narrative your going down.
While I agree with the premise sadly lawfare is alive and pervasive.
As far as Hart goes I haven’t followed the case so I don’t know what happened.
I’ll reserve my judgement for when the facts come out.
I’m sure many people remember the Duke Lacrosse incident.
- bird_dog_pa

Sure, but that has nothing to do with “being able to catch a break”. They’ve been a very fortunate franchise throughout their history.
- Pacificgem

What I meant is, though its circumstantial at this point, it appears Hart may be one of the 5 players suspended because of a sexual assault, which is a very, very serious allegation, and frankly, a stupid and perverted thing to do to someone else. And being 18 at the time is absolutely NO EXCUSE. I am a big believer in Hart in terms of his one-ice play and feel he can be that goalie to backstop this team to a cup. However just when it seems like the Flyers have finally found a solution in nets which has eluded them for ... what ... 3 decades now?, this potentially happens.

As far as fortunate, are you serious? Pelle Lindbergh tragically dies. Injuries kill Flyers chance to win cup in 1987. Lindros career cut short. Finally get Forsberg and he's can't play 2 seasons with the Flyers. Pronger's career cut short. Nolan Patrick concussions stopped his career from getting off the ground. This team has had its share of devastating set-backs and frankly, bad luck.

Flyers have also worked their tails of to get Fedotov to come over. Something is brewing here. And it's not beer.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

good point.

Well said. This is most likely why he went dark on social media. It's a nasty environment.
- MJL

But taking all mention of the Flyers off his social media also?

But taking all mention of the Flyers off his social media also?
- jd250

Somebody mentioned it might be to focus on the season…I thought was a good point. There seems to be a feeding frenzy and innuendo up here about the 2018 Jr Canada sexual assault case, maybe too much poop was being directed at him (fair or unfair). I think that’s probably the reason for his decision. Personally I don’t think he was involved and he has said as much through his agent. But until this is resolved it’s not fair to all the innocent parties involved.

Somebody mentioned it might be to focus on the season…I thought was a good point. There seems to be a feeding frenzy and innuendo up here about the 2018 Jr Canada sexual assault case, maybe too much poop was being directed at him (fair or unfair). I think that’s probably the reason for his decision. Personally I don’t think he was involved and he has said as much through his agent. But until this is resolved it’s not fair to all the innocent parties involved.
- landros 2

To be honest, I’m starting to think no very many people know where the line is. Especially young people. Alcohol might be involved. Drugs might be involved. Girls wanting to be around athletes and celebrities to get likes on Instagram. These athletes and celebrities feeling entitled and a little too pushy.

I have a cousin who was accused of sexual assault, which supposedly took place in Quebec, while he and of a group of “friends” were traveling in the army together. His accuser was also in the army and apart of this group. My cousin lives in Windsor Ontario. My cousin had to travel to Quebec whenever the courts called him to an appear for 5 years to fight his accuser. The story my cousin says is, they acted consensually early in the night, this much she admits. Later in the night she claims he and another male in the same group sexually assaulted her. The two guys were basically paying the Quebec courts to stay out of jail. When the other kid couldn’t afford it anymore, he went yo jail until the outcome of the case (excuse me, the is only what I remember, I was there for every step). Long story short, my cousin claims drinking was heavily involved for all three parties. My cousin also claims that she was accusing him because after that night he wanted to be in an official relationship. He turned her down multiple times before she made the claims of sexual assault.

So for me, I always need to hear both stories. Especially right now when the MeToo movement is at its most heated. A lot of women are coming up the hill with fire and pitchforks coming for guys who don’t actually deserve it.

Somebody mentioned it might be to focus on the season…I thought was a good point. There seems to be a feeding frenzy and innuendo up here about the 2018 Jr Canada sexual assault case, maybe too much poop was being directed at him (fair or unfair). I think that’s probably the reason for his decision. Personally I don’t think he was involved and he has said as much through his agent. But until this is resolved it’s not fair to all the innocent parties involved.
- landros 2

My argument to that point would be has he taken himself off of social media prior to the start of other seasons? I could be reading too much into it, but it just has seemed to me as if something has been off with him. He seemed like he was always a mentally strong kid, but not so sure anymore. Of course, that could be attributed to losing when he has always been used to winning everywhere he played. Lots of goalies in this system...hmmm...

What I meant is, though its circumstantial at this point, it appears Hart may be one of the 5 players suspended because of a sexual assault, which is a very, very serious allegation, and frankly, a stupid and perverted thing to do to someone else. And being 18 at the time is absolutely NO EXCUSE. I am a big believer in Hart in terms of his one-ice play and feel he can be that goalie to backstop this team to a cup. However just when it seems like the Flyers have finally found a solution in nets which has eluded them for ... what ... 3 decades now?, this potentially happens.

As far as fortunate, are you serious? Pelle Lindbergh tragically dies. Injuries kill Flyers chance to win cup in 1987. Lindros career cut short. Finally get Forsberg and he's can't play 2 seasons with the Flyers. Pronger's career cut short. Nolan Patrick concussions stopped his career from getting off the ground. This team has had its share of devastating set-backs and frankly, bad luck.
- jd250

This appearance is based on wild and unsubstantiated rumors.

It's pretty much that allegedly a woman was sexually assaulted by SOME members of that team. Hart was a member of that team. How many players were on the team in total? How many are rumored to be involved? Hart went dark on social media. He must be GUILTY!!!!!!

But taking all mention of the Flyers off his social media also?
- jd250

Yes.