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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 5 @ 6:26 AM ET
Need a shutdown 3rd line, and a 4th line of hammers. Period.
- Grinder47

Yea, because that's worked so well for us.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 5 @ 7:55 AM ET
No. Dubas just signed a complete bottom six designed to be defensively responsible and the coach is going to have them playing a run and gun offensive style. Jeff Carter is still the likeliest candidate to put up numbers in the bottom six. Long way from “there”.
- Grinder47


This wasn't the "there" I meant...however what you said isnt all that far fetched in my mind hahaha
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 5 @ 8:01 AM ET
I've been imagining the revamped D being a lot more run and gun and the new bottom 6 much more defensively responsible for the run and gun D......but we shall see how this all shakes out. 9 brand new players is a lot to get acclimated and to have hit the ground running so to speak....
MickV
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Cambridge, MA
Joined: 07.03.2023

Sep 5 @ 8:30 AM ET
Today is the first day of school here. Hallelujah.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 5 @ 8:33 AM ET
Today is the first day of school here. Hallelujah.
- MickV


Tomorrow for us. I'm not ready for summer to be over because I hate wearing socks and pants haha...and while our Autumns are always really nice here, I wouldn't mind if we could just skip it and go right to snow and ice and all the fun that brings.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 5 @ 9:22 AM ET
No. Dubas just signed a complete bottom six designed to be defensively responsible and the coach is going to have them playing a run and gun offensive style. Jeff Carter is still the likeliest candidate to put up numbers in the bottom six. Long way from “there”.
- Grinder47


No clue why you think this.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 5 @ 9:44 AM ET
This wasn't the "there" I meant...however what you said isnt all that far fetched in my mind hahaha
- MattStrat


Given that we know Hextall and Sully didn't talk and work together on the roster, and now that we know that Dubas and Sully do talk, it confuses me to why you would look to the players acquired, and think Sully is going to try and get them to play run and gun to score.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Sep 5 @ 9:50 AM ET
No clue why you think this.
- j.boyd919


He did make Brian Dumoulin an offensive juggernaut his last two seasons here. Haha.

The bottom six has one job and that's to take draws in the defensive zone, get the puck out of the zone and get off the ice as fast as you can. Offence isn't in their job description.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 5 @ 9:50 AM ET
I don't think either one is a top six, but if I had to pick one to play on that line, I'd go O'Connor as the third wheel who does the dirty work. His AHL career he did have 27 goals and 73 points in 73 games so he's not without some skill.

Nylander in WBS had 39 goals and 80 points in 99 games. A little higher on goals per game but lower on points in same period.

- Tojo.

Interesting. O'Connor with a better AHL career than Nylander so far. I hope both can EARN regular spots with us.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 5 @ 9:52 AM ET
Pitlick should get a chance, too many are writing him off already, but he has scored some at the NHL level. I agree with DOC over Nylander, but wouldn't mind if the best two of them were both on the third line.
- Tojo.

I find it crazy people just scratching the guy right away just to sign Tatar. From what I've seen Pitlick has some wheels.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 5 @ 9:55 AM ET
Are weeeee theeeere yet?


Zzzzz

- MattStrat

35 days to go
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 5 @ 9:55 AM ET
I find it crazy people just scratching the guy right away just to sign Tatar. From what I've seen Pitlick has some wheels.
- Barnaby36

So crazy



j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 5 @ 10:01 AM ET
I find it crazy people just scratching the guy right away just to sign Tatar. From what I've seen Pitlick has some wheels.
- Barnaby36


No, it's not crazy at all.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 5 @ 10:11 AM ET
No, it's not crazy at all.
- j.boyd919

Give Pitlick a chance. He’s so good one of the worst teams in the league dropped him as a cap dump.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 5 @ 10:18 AM ET
Given that we know Hextall and Sully didn't talk and work together on the roster, and now that we know that Dubas and Sully do talk, it confuses me to why you would look to the players acquired, and think Sully is going to try and get them to play run and gun to score.
- j.boyd919

Because that fits the narrative he likes to run with. Eller even said in his media time the coaches discussed his role and what's expected of him. Someone is mistaking run and gun hockey for just really bad defensive play by Carter.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 5 @ 10:18 AM ET
So crazy




- Feds91Stammer

It's not about who's better here. I never said he's better than Tatar you weasel lol
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 5 @ 10:24 AM ET
It's not about who's better here. I never said he's better than Tatar you weasel lol
- Barnaby36

You said it’s crazy to “scratch him just to get Tatar”. What else could mr give him a chance meant.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 5 @ 10:32 AM ET
Dubas should be fired for cause for not signing Tatar/trading for Nylander yet.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 5 @ 10:39 AM ET
No. Dubas just signed a complete bottom six designed to be defensively responsible and the coach is going to have them playing a run and gun offensive style. Jeff Carter is still the likeliest candidate to put up numbers in the bottom six. Long way from “there”.
- Grinder47


I can see Carter having a bit of a bounce back year if the bottom 6 can cohesively play as a unit how dubs foresees them. An upgraded defence should help everyone’s numbers on the team, and not having the corpse of dumo is just a plus for everyone, especially Carter.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 5 @ 10:56 AM ET
Given that we know Hextall and Sully didn't talk and work together on the roster, and now that we know that Dubas and Sully do talk, it confuses me to why you would look to the players acquired, and think Sully is going to try and get them to play run and gun to score.
- j.boyd919


I dont necessarily think it. However, a lot of scenarios arent that far fetched in my mind haha. Like I said in a proceeding post, I imagine the revamped D will see a major uptick in production, taking a lot of chances, while the reconfigured defensive bottom 6 will help cover for a lot of it. Thats my hopes and dreams...but...sometimes Sully just gonna Sully. Now, as for production from bottom 6, it really isnt that far fetched that Carter out produces some of the new additions, even if marginally. We're not looking at a whole lot of finishing ability down there.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 5 @ 11:13 AM ET
It's not about who's better here. I never said he's better than Tatar you weasel lol
- Barnaby36

Well the only way we can get Tatar is if Pitlick goes so, they go hand in hand.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 5 @ 11:14 AM ET
It's not about who's better here. I never said he's better than Tatar you weasel lol
- Barnaby36


Creating a hockey roster is absolutely about who's a better hockey player, what the hell are you even talking about? lol
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Sep 5 @ 11:47 AM ET
Given that we know Hextall and Sully didn't talk and work together on the roster, and now that we know that Dubas and Sully do talk, it confuses me to why you would look to the players acquired, and think Sully is going to try and get them to play run and gun to score.
- j.boyd919

Sully only knows how to coach the 2016 roster that had Phil kessel on the 3rd line and a 20 goal 4th line center. He’s been coaching that team since and it’s a bigger part of this teams short comings than anything else. But it gets ignored for some reason.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 5 @ 11:48 AM ET
Creating a hockey roster is absolutely about who's a better hockey player, what the hell are you even talking about? lol
- j.boyd919

Especially when they are going to have a very similar cap hit.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Sep 5 @ 11:50 AM ET
Yea, because that's worked so well for us.
- 668710

It would be interesting to see a whole line of young Matt Cookes set loose on this NHL.
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