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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 9 @ 1:41 PM ET
Was the interim GM at the time of the 2015 draft
- Feds91Stammer


That's right.

If there was a redo of that draft, and you were a GM knowing how the players have panned out so far, would you take Marner 2nd to McDavid? I think I would.

EDIT: Eichel is a stud and also a C...its a tough one for me

EDIT 2: Rantanen, Aho, Meier, Barzal, Konecny all drafed after....i might even go with Aho at 2nd...what a draft
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 9 @ 1:52 PM ET
That's right.

If there was a redo of that draft, and you were a GM knowing how the players have panned out so far, would you take Marner 2nd to McDavid? I think I would.

EDIT: Eichel is a stud and also a C...its a tough one for me

- MattStrat


Eichel over Marner all day
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 9 @ 1:55 PM ET
Eichel over Marner all day
- j.boyd919


All day? Yeah, I might give slight edge to Jack because he's a centre...but all day? I dont know hahah...Marner is a guy producing more AND winning Selke trophies
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 1:58 PM ET
I would think that’s a bit misleading with matthews Marner and nylander being roughly 1500 of those games. But it is still double what we have drafted play in. But I suppose people still blow top 10 picks. That Derek Pouliot pick haha
- 10inchTerror

Forsberg
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 9 @ 1:59 PM ET
Eichel over Marner all day
- j.boyd919


I’d have to go based on what I need. If I just drafted geno or ovi the year prior I would be looking to give one his centreman and one his winger. Now if it’s year one of a tank and you’ve just bottomed out as a team… I’d have to go with eichel.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 9 @ 1:59 PM ET
Forsberg
- 668710


Don’t remind me haha
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
Don’t remind me haha
- 10inchTerror

Hahahaha
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
I’d have to go based on what I need. If I just drafted geno or ovi the year prior I would be looking to give one his centreman and one his winger. Now if it’s year one of a tank and you’ve just bottomed out as a team… I’d have to go with eichel.
- 10inchTerror

Yea I agree I'd rather have Marner on the Pens with Sid and Geno haha.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
All day? Yeah, I might give slight edge to Jack because he's a centre...but all day? I dont know hahah...Marner is a guy producing more AND winning Selke trophies
- MattStrat

When did Marner win a selke?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
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Aug 9 @ 2:12 PM ET
When did Marner win a selke?
- Feds91Stammer


Oops my bad....gets nominated for*
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 9 @ 2:12 PM ET
Yea I agree I'd rather have Marner on the Pens with Sid and Geno haha.
- 668710

Nah I’d still rather have Eichel. Getting a 26 year old 1C changes our outlook from a top down rebuild to a transition. As great as Marner is 1C is the most important and hardest to acquire piece to have in your organization if you want to be competitive so tie goes to the runner.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
Forsberg
- 668710


hahah brutal....if they picked him that year there would be a completely different ripple effect to the team and seasons that came after that draft...who knows what would of happened, possibly no B2B cups, maybe more cups..and who knows what what we're talking about this summer, most likely not EK.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 2:15 PM ET
Oops my bad....gets nominated for*
- MattStrat

Gotcha. Either way. Eichel all day.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 9 @ 2:16 PM ET
Gotcha. Either way. Eichel all day.
- Feds91Stammer


hahaha
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 2:17 PM ET
hahaha
- MattStrat

You know who else had Selke votes last season? Tatar
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Aug 9 @ 2:22 PM ET
Eichel over Marner all day
- j.boyd919

Cry baby vs cry baby good call!
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 9 @ 2:22 PM ET
You know who else had Selke votes last season? Tatar
- Feds91Stammer


I'm all about it...get it done Dubas. Just seems like you've been putting Tatar on the Pens out into the universe for f'n years now hahaha if it happened it was so meant to be.

He had 6 votes to Marners 480...Hischier had 804..Bergeron 1914. I had no idea just how many votes there were until today when I looked up. 5000+ across 1st to 5th
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 2:24 PM ET
Cry baby vs cry baby good call!
- Rsh

Nobody cares Buffalo Boy
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 2:33 PM ET
Nah I’d still rather have Eichel. Getting a 26 year old 1C changes our outlook from a top down rebuild to a transition. As great as Marner is 1C is the most important and hardest to acquire piece to have in your organization if you want to be competitive so tie goes to the runner.
- Victoro311

I'm talking about 2015 when Marner was drafted, not getting one right now.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 2:34 PM ET
Nah I’d still rather have Eichel. Getting a 26 year old 1C changes our outlook from a top down rebuild to a transition. As great as Marner is 1C is the most important and hardest to acquire piece to have in your organization if you want to be competitive so tie goes to the runner.
- Victoro311

I'm talking about 2015 when Marner was drafted, not getting one right now.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 2:34 PM ET
I'm talking about 2015 when Marner was drafted, not getting one right now.
- 668710

Eichel would look infinitely better right now if he didn't have to start his career with an AHL organization.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 2:36 PM ET
Nobody cares Buffalo Boy
- Feds91Stammer

Lol
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 2:38 PM ET
Eichel would look infinitely better right now if he didn't have to start his career with an AHL organization.
- Feds91Stammer

I'm not saying that he wouldn't. I guess he could have played wing with us haha. It's hard enough getting 2 great centers good wingers let alone 3
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 9 @ 2:39 PM ET
I'm talking about 2015 when Marner was drafted, not getting one right now.
- 668710

I mean that even furthers my point. An 18 year old 1C is just so absurdly valuable.
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Aug 9 @ 2:40 PM ET
Nobody cares Buffalo Boy
- Feds91Stammer

Why you say that?
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