In my above proposal it was Petry (for 2 years) and around $1.5M of EK for 4 years...
- mventres

Taking Petry adds nothing for Hawks and helps Pens. Hawks will want more than a 1st and Petry isn't it

Thoughts on what it would take to get Nylander out of Toronto? I know they want to get more grit, and cut salary...would they have interest in Rust+ (no idea what the + would need to be though, POJ?)??

Looking at the cap situation beyond this year, we should have about $15+M and pretty much a full roster signed (Guentzel salary raise will basically be merging his current hit with Carter's). So, PIT has more than enough room to sign Nylander to a $9-10M contract, although going more than 5-6 years on it would be an issue as he'd be 34-35 at the end of it. He'd look really good on a line with Malkin and Smith...

Taking Petry adds nothing for Hawks and helps Pens. Hawks will want more than a 1st and Petry isn't it
- hfc355

I doubt it. Petry is still useful to CHI: he's a decent 2nd pairing guy who can still eat a good chunk of solid minutes, lead by example, teach the young guys, etc - they also don't have many D as it is....so it would definitely not a buried salary and they could also flip him to land another decent pick if they retain salary on him too (they won't be using the space in the next couple of years on players, so weaponizing it makes sense).

I doubt it. Petry is still useful to CHI: he's a decent 2nd pairing guy who can still eat a good chunk of solid minutes, lead by example, teach the young guys, etc - they also don't have many D as it is....so it would definitely not a buried salary and they could also flip him to land another decent pick if they retain salary on him too (they won't be using the space in the next couple of years on players, so weaponizing it makes sense).
- mventres

Why take him off Pens hands then flip him and retain salary for a pick? Why not just demand that added pick right from Pens? Petry moving to Hawks helps Pens not Hawks. Gonna cost big to dump Petry and retain on EK.

I doubt anything like this could even happen until there is some formal, internal, legal agreement with regards to management based upon the passing of Rocky Wirtz this week.

A better rumour might have been about that being finalised that could actually give Davidson that sort of authority- as I imagine right now, they are in caretaker mode, until that point happens.

Not sure how that exactly works within the Chicago club. But I haven't seen anyone even mention it. And to be clear we are talking about new commitments, not those arranged prior to Rocky's passing.

Feels like it basic legal considerations for any business. Not least something major like an NHL team.
- SC116

I would think the Wirtz corporation like probably all major organizations has a succession plan in place in case Rocky or another executive dies or leaves the company, and this plan has already kicked in. And it's likely that the internal budget for Davidson's spending on salary has already been set. I would guess it's close to the cap limit. So if there's an opportunity to take on salary to obtain some assets to aid the rebuild, Davidson's hands aren't tied, IMO.

Totally bold prediction: the team acquiring Karlsson does not win the cup. Improve on last year? 50/50.

Totally bold prediction: the team acquiring Karlsson does not win the cup. Improve on last year? 50/50.
- DarthProbert

True. I think I read that average team revenue for a playoff game is in the 1.5-2.0 million range. So they'd probably need EK65 to help win quite a few playoff series over the next 4 years to break even. From a financial standpoint it makes more sense for Carolina to try and get value out of him them Pittsburgh (who's cup window slammed shut a couple years ago).

I doubt it. Petry is still useful to CHI: he's a decent 2nd pairing guy who can still eat a good chunk of solid minutes, lead by example, teach the young guys, etc - they also don't have many D as it is....so it would definitely not a buried salary and they could also flip him to land another decent pick if they retain salary on him too (they won't be using the space in the next couple of years on players, so weaponizing it makes sense).
- mventres

No it doesn't make sense. They have their own kids to start playing at the NHL level. Draft picks aren't gonna cut it for an old poopty dman

I doubt anything like this could even happen until there is some formal, internal, legal agreement with regards to management based upon the passing of Rocky Wirtz this week.

A better rumour might have been about that being finalised that could actually give Davidson that sort of authority- as I imagine right now, they are in caretaker mode, until that point happens.

Not sure how that exactly works within the Chicago club. But I haven't seen anyone even mention it. And to be clear we are talking about new commitments, not those arranged prior to Rocky's passing.

Feels like it basic legal considerations for any business. Not least something major like an NHL team.
- SC116

The reason nobody mentioned Rocky’s death as being something that would complicate any new transactions or trades is because there is now way that it does! The organization wouldn’t be built right if that was the case! Pretty certain Rocky’s unfortunate death has no bearing on a deal like this!!

remember Roberto Luongo: "My Contract Sucks"

I would be shocked if we retained anything for EK. we would take petry for a 1st is my guess. feels like that is as far as Kyle davidson wants to take on money. I think KD is going to start spending in 25-26 (2 years and wants to keep flexibility he also values the retention slots we already have 1 tied up for 2 years currently.

The reason nobody mentioned Rocky’s death as being something that would complicate any new transactions or trades is because there is now way that it does! The organization wouldn’t be built right if that was the case! Pretty certain Rocky’s unfortunate death has no bearing on a deal like this!!
- rwilliams88

I seem to recall that no one expected Rocky to have been involved in the hockey club when WWW died. In fact, he had nothing to do with hockey operations previously- so there is actually a precedent for what I was talking about previously.

Use of three exclamation marks notwithstanding.

Not claiming I know -just saying that it did happen exactly that way before. Full stop.

The actual reason these get posted is no secret -- it is numbers of posts on the Hawks area based upon the time that those posts are up compared to others ... end of story.