OttawaB
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 08.02.2016
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Here's another thing. Norris is back. You also have Stutzle, Tkachuk and Batherson who have played very well on the PP. Which one of those long term guys are you going to kick off of the PP in order to make Tarasenko look good for a year?
God how I dislike Dorion! Fire him ASAP before he completely ruins the team. - Whatisavailable
Your comments are hilarious. What a negative world you live in. Who would be your choice to replace Dorion?
Dorion built a good competitive team. Sure he has made mistakes along the way, like every GM. But consider this ..... essentially you gave up a 1rst, 2nd, and 3rd round pick for .... a later round 1rst pick, Kubalik, Tarasenko, Sobrengo. Let's dig deeper .... Kubalik and Tarasenko will more then make up the points lost by DeBrincat and they will collectively make less then Debrincat. The picks you gave up to Chicago to begin with would have taken probably 3-4 years before they made the Sens team ..... IF they made the Sens team.
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Not much logic here. You want to fire Dorion before he ruins the team. But in acknowledging that it good enough to be ruined you are also conceding Dorion has had some success in building the team. Most fans really like this team and moves that Dorion has made. Perhaps we should think of you as undecided or inconsistent. - spatso
Why are you talking to me? I don't like you and think you're an idiot who thinks he's clever. Not wanting to have to deal with morons like you is why I no longer post any comments on the Sens blogs.
If you don't agree with my comments then just scroll on by and quit annoying me with your infantile attempts at sophistry.
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Your comments are hilarious. What a negative world you live in. Who would be your choice to replace Dorion?
Dorion built a good competitive team. Sure he has made mistakes along the way, like every GM. But consider this ..... essentially you gave up a 1rst, 2nd, and 3rd round pick for .... a later round 1rst pick, Kubalik, Tarasenko, Sobrengo. Let's dig deeper .... Kubalik and Tarasenko will more then make up the points lost by DeBrincat and they will collectively make less then Debrincat. The picks you gave up to Chicago to begin with would have taken probably 3-4 years before they made the Sens team ..... IF they made the Sens team. - OttawaB
Why are you talking to me? I don't like you and think you're an idiot who thinks he's clever. Not wanting to have to deal with morons like you is why I no longer post any comments on the Sens blogs.
If you don't agree with my comments then just scroll on by and quit annoying me with your infantile attempts at whitewashing Dorion's incompetence.. |
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OttawaB
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 08.02.2016
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Scrolling on by .............
I think the Sens could make the playoffs. But like every team with playoff aspirations, certain things have to go right to get there. |
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spatso
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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Why are you talking to me? I don't like you and think you're an idiot who thinks he's clever. Not wanting to have to deal with morons like you is why I no longer post any comments on the Sens blogs.
If you don't agree with my comments then just scroll on by and quit annoying me with your infantile attempts at sophistry. - Whatisavailable
Lots of evidence here of hurt feelings. I have certainly noticed that your commentary has been missing for awhile. Despite often disagreeing with your perspective, I do find your opinions interesting and entertaining. Would very much like to see you return as a regular commentator.
Remember all the great prophets were ridiculed and scorned when they first put forward their prophesy. In ancient times prophets were crucified. You can handle a little criticism from folks who do not like the doom of your prophetic words.
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sssteve
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Location: ON Joined: 08.31.2008
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I don't think Tarasenko has enough left in the tank to help |
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spatso
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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I don't think Tarasenko has enough left in the tank to help - sssteve
That is, of course, the primary concern. He is 31 and more and more teams are beginning to shy away from giving long term deals to any player age 30+. Some teams are going to have great results in picking the guys who still have.
I thought the Sens made a horrid error in signing 36 year old Giroux last year. What do I know? He put up his best season in a long time playing with two kids (Stutzle and Tkachuk).
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optimus-reim
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Location: Not Toronto Joined: 06.21.2011
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Horrible take. Teams have been over the cap until training camp multiple times and they 'find a way'. I know you're not used to it because the Sens had the cheapest owner in the league for a decade, but this is business as usual for many NHL teams.
All it will take is finding 2M to give to Pinto. A Branstrom trade, and it's done. Not a huge deal.
Franchise deconstruction?
In the last couple years, he has brought in a top 6 forward (Giroux), another top 6 forward (Tarasenko), a top 3 Dman (Chychryn), got two absolute steals of contracts out of Stutzle and Tkchuck.
Took a calculated risk in signing Korpisalo.
I am not really sure how you can rip any of these moves. Yes the Debrincat move blew up in his face, but the Sens ended up with Kubalik and Tarasenko (at a lower cap it, combined) as replacements. The old making lemonade from lemons with that one.
Would you really rather have Debrincat over Kubalik AND Tarasenko at a lower cap hit?
If you want to rip Dorion, there are other areas you could for sure, but signing a top 6 guy with the potential to score 30 easily for 1 yr 5M is not the time to do it. - Charliebox
Senator fans are toxic. Just like Red Wings fans (at least the bully types) |
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GrimmdaGoalie
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 01.07.2016
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Goaltending and coaching will determine if this team is making the playoffs. They missed them last year by 6 to 8pts. Good goaltending and coaching can make up the difference.
Goaltending...I see the potential and possibilities.
Coaching....not so much. |
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Depends whether they get a better coach or not. |
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No trolling here... don't get too high on Kubalik. He is going to break your heart. Yes, he will be a decent streaky scorer (as most are), but unless he makes some huge change to address his awareness and decision making near and between the blue lines and in his own zone, he will quickly become infuriating. - Chunk
Sounds exactly like Debrincat last season. |
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Vladdie_Kon1
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI Joined: 04.21.2007
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Senator fans are toxic. Just like Red Wings fans (at least the bully types) - optimus-reim
That's nonsense. Maybe you should stick to the Toronto blog instead of trolling the Red Wings blog and quit whining. Good grief. |
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Vanillaface
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.25.2013
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I don't see Bruins or Panthers missing the playoffs so they're competing with Islanders, Penguins, Sabres and Red Wings for the final playoff spot. Isles have elite goaltending and will have Horvat for the whole season. Red Wings adding Debrincat and Compher will help make a push. Sabres missed the playoffs by 1 point and seem to be taking the next step. Sens get a healthy Norris and improved goaltending could push them over the edge. Personally I think it comes down to Sens and Islanders but Pens adding EK65 could change that. |
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jimrobin
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Joined: 10.07.2005
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Why are you talking to me? I don't like you and think you're an idiot who thinks he's clever. Not wanting to have to deal with morons like you is why I no longer post any comments on the Sens blogs.
If you don't agree with my comments then just scroll on by and quit annoying me with your infantile attempts at whitewashing Dorion's incompetence.. - Whatisavailable
I have been ignoring your comments for years now (like you're asking) because of your negativity. Sounds your whole life is complete depression I really hope things get better for you.
Yes Dorion isn't the best GM in the league but I also don't think he's the worst. He's made mistakes, but he's made some nice moves also. If It was a 4 year contract so example, that will handcuff the team, then yes I agree your sky is falling attitude. But f*ck man, it's a 1 year contract. Relax Buddy. For 1 year, I think it's a great try of bringing in a UFA. Not every move is terrible.
Question, if you're so smart regarding everything, why are you not an NHL GM already? |
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I have been ignoring your comments for years now (like you're asking) because of your negativity. Sounds your whole life is complete depression I really hope things get better for you.
Yes Dorion isn't the best GM in the league but I also don't think he's the worst. He's made mistakes, but he's made some nice moves also. If It was a 4 year contract so example, that will handcuff the team, then yes I agree your sky is falling attitude. But f*ck man, it's a 1 year contract. Relax Buddy. For 1 year, I think it's a great try of bringing in a UFA. Not every move is terrible.
Question, if you're so smart regarding everything, why are you not an NHL GM already? - jimrobin
When you speak of my negativity you focus exclusively on my criticism of Dorion's incompetence while completely ignoring all the posts I have made where I have said that this team can and will be a perennial serious contender for the Cup.
They should have been in the playoffs this past season except for Dorion's incompetence. They might make it this year but if they do they will be wiped out in the first round and if Dorion is not fired soon that is all they will ever accomplish for years to come.
I'm hoping the new owners are just giving Dorion enough rope to hang himself with but it may cost the team a Batherson or a Pinto or maybe even a Chabot. If not for that moronic GM they could have have been challenging for the Cup next season. If they fire him soon they may still challege in a couple of years but not for very long because of all the squandered assets. |
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spatso
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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When you speak of my negativity you focus exclusively on my criticism of Dorion's incompetence while completely ignoring all the posts I have made where I have said that this team can and will be a perennial serious contender for the Cup.
They should have been in the playoffs this past season except for Dorion's incompetence. They might make it this year but if they do they will be wiped out in the first round and if Dorion is not fired soon that is all they will ever accomplish for years to come.
I'm hoping the new owners are just giving Dorion enough rope to hang himself with but it may cost the team a Batherson or a Pinto or maybe even a Chabot. If not for that moronic GM they could have have been challenging for the Cup next season. If they fire him soon they may still challege in a couple of years but not for very long because of all the squandered assets. - Whatisavailable
I have no idea how to respond to the general nature of your disagreement with Dorion's overall hockey decision making. Some folks are merely transactional oriented. They want to evaluate each transaction without regard for the larger whole.
I did not like a lot of Dorion's decisions. I did not like them taking Tkachuk at #4, I was hoping for a different combination than Stutzle/Sanderson at 3 and 5. I did not like the Giroux signing.
But here I am today and I love the age and composition of the team.
It is also a huge bonus to know the captain and players love and respect the coach.
New Jersey, last year, should offer some guidance for the transactionally oriented who miss the whole because of their focus on the individual. So many Devil fans wanted Fitzgerald and Rupp gone. Patience matters. |
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Bartacus
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.08.2019
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When you speak of my negativity you focus exclusively on my criticism of Dorion's incompetence while completely ignoring all the posts I have made where I have said that this team can and will be a perennial serious contender for the Cup.
They should have been in the playoffs this past season except for Dorion's incompetence. They might make it this year but if they do they will be wiped out in the first round and if Dorion is not fired soon that is all they will ever accomplish for years to come.
I'm hoping the new owners are just giving Dorion enough rope to hang himself with but it may cost the team a Batherson or a Pinto or maybe even a Chabot. If not for that moronic GM they could have have been challenging for the Cup next season. If they fire him soon they may still challege in a couple of years but not for very long because of all the squandered assets. - Whatisavailable
If this team has gotten to a place where they have a chance to be 'a perennial contender for the cup', you would think the guy who's been the GM for seven years had something to do with that. Just saying. |
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I have no idea how to respond to the general nature of your disagreement with Dorion's overall hockey decision making. Some folks are merely transactional oriented. They want to evaluate each transaction without regard for the larger whole.
I did not like a lot of Dorion's decisions. I did not like them taking Tkachuk at #4, I was hoping for a different combination than Stutzle/Sanderson at 3 and 5. I did not like the Giroux signing.
But here I am today and I love the age and composition of the team.
It is also a huge bonus to know the captain and players love and respect the coach.
New Jersey, last year, should offer some guidance for the transactionally oriented who miss the whole because of their focus on the individual. So many Devil fans wanted Fitzgerald and Rupp gone. Patience matters. - spatso
Why are you back? Go make your own friggin moronic posts and leave me alone. In the two years that I have been visiting this site you have been completely wrong about everything and yet you still somehow see fit to pontificate endlessly. When you began your comment with "I have no idea" that's where you should have ended it. |
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If this team has gotten to a place where they have a chance to be 'a perennial contender for the cup', you would think the guy who's been the GM for seven years had something to do with that. Just saying. - Bartacus
Why are you talking to me? I don't like you and think you're an idiot who thinks he's clever. Not wanting to have to deal with morons like you is why I no longer post any comments on the Sens blogs.
If you don't agree with my comments then just scroll on by and quit annoying me with your infantile attempts at sophistry. |
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spatso
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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Why are you back? Go make your own friggin moronic posts and leave me alone. In the two years that I have been visiting this site you have been completely wrong about everything and yet you still somehow see fit to pontificate endlessly. When you began your comment with "I have no idea" that's where you should have ended it. - Whatisavailable
I don't think anyone wants to hurt your feelings and I am sure you would be very welcome if you should decide to return to the Sens thread. Good luck.
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AlfieisKing
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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I don't think Tarasenko has enough left in the tank to help - sssteve
Will you screenshot this
Because I beg to differ
My only concern is injury* |
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spatso
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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Will you screenshot this
Because I beg to differ 
My only concern is injury* - AlfieisKing
Teams that win Stanley Cups usually have a strong veteran presence in their line-up.
Teams that win Stanley Cups have good size sprinkled through their line up.
Teams that win Stanley Cups have 3 and sometimes even 4 strong lines.
Tarasenko helps in all those areas.
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