NHL should educate people on the names and history.. You wanting to use Rod Langway just shows the era you are from most young hockey fans would say"Who the hell is Ron Langway"
- Azuredoom

If you don't like Rod Langway then use Larry Robinson instead. The point is, Bergeron retiring is a good catalyst to rename all the awards and exaggerate his achievements. It was a good move to retire before Toews so he gets the award title.

No to changing the name!! Quit trying to change the NHL!
- Jrw10

it’s changing along with society, and that’s probably a good thing, but I agree they shouldn’t change the Selke.

No to changing the name!! Quit trying to change the NHL!
- Jrw10

it’s changing along with society, and that’s probably a good thing, but I agree they shouldn’t change the Selke.

If you don't like Rod Langway then use Larry Robinson instead. The point is, Bergeron retiring is a good catalyst to rename all the awards and exaggerate his achievements. It was a good move to retire before Toews so he gets the award title.
- Cooleus

Doesn't matter the player name, At some point people will be who the hell is that . Your argument means changing the award names frequently so people recognize the players.


I guess we are on opposite sides of the name changing opinion

The Selke trophy will now be called Defensey McDefenseface. Case closed.

Glad the Leafs to not have to play against him anymore.
Class act through and through. 🤟🏻

Not a Bruins fan but still just had to comment because of the Sydney Crosby reference.

Sydney is one of the most overhyped two way player of all time. Early in his career he actually was a very poor two way player, imo.

Saying you cant take the Selke seriously because Sydney has not won it is... not right.

Sydney, and Austin Matthews for some reason, fans really key in and exagerate the defensive impact of these players in a bizarre attempt to one up the conversation of greatests of all time.

As for the original question of changing the name of Selke to Bergereon. I like the idea.

It cant just be me that thinks that having old names on a award is overly important. I dont "really" recognize any of the names assosiated with trophys outside that there is a trophy named after them.

The confusion might be annoying to deal with but making thise awards a bit more relevant to todaya game "could" be a good thing.
- Aerchon

Matthews lead forwards in blocked shots last year.

The Selke trophy will now be called Defensey McDefenseface. Case closed.
- GalacticStone

sadly no, it won't be that. It will be some pioneering racialized one armed special olympics sledge hockey player who goes by They. "now accepting the They Calipso award....."

Class act, great player, great leader, and by all accounts a great person.

First ballot HOFer in my eyes. Most Selkes in NHL history should make it automatic.

I have no issue with changing the name of the award, but let's get him in the Hall of Fame first.

sadly no, it won't be that. It will be some pioneering racialized one armed special olympics sledge hockey player who goes by They. "now accepting the They Calipso award....."
- Octavarium

They Calipso sounds like the band that opened for Bob Marley.

The guy was a good defensive center but never even had an 80 point season. Why should we change the name of the award? A 50-60 point player should have an award's name changed in honor of him? sounds silly

The guy was a good defensive center but never even had an 80 point season. Why should we change the name of the award? A 50-60 point player should have an award's name changed in honor of him? sounds silly
- jryan88

Your post makes it sound like you have no clue what the trophy is for.

Doesn't matter the player name, At some point people will be who the hell is that . Your argument means changing the award names frequently so people recognize the players.


I guess we are on opposite sides of the name changing opinion
- Azuredoom

My only change to awards would be to add one and redefine another. The Norris should be the best defensive defenseman and a new award should be created to fill how the Norris is being awarded now (best offensive defenseman) and it should be called the Orr.

Seems like a good idea, but have we investigated his politics thoroughly enough yet?

I would rename all the trophies. Nobody even knows who Selke is. Should be the Bergeron/Datysuk trophy. Who is Art Ross? Call that the McDavid. Should also add more categories. Best defensive defensemen could be like the Rod Langway award. Best power forward could be Mike Hoffman award. Best at receiving a pass is the Auston Matthews trophy. Etc...
- Cooleus

I'm guessing you don't know who Frederick Stanley, the 16th Earl of Derby was either.

Eklund: PATRICE BERGERON’S STATEMENT + Should We Change The Selke to The Bergeron?
- Eklund

Oh, Ek.

I know you know better.

If they are going to change the name of the Selke Award, it would be to the Gainey Award.

I am sorry, AM is not worth $14m. This is not because I am not a Leafs fan. There is really only 1 player who is. And I dont need to say his name as it is obvious. I would even claim that M.Tkachuk is worth more as he brings more to the table. The years where Toronto would overpay, I think ends with BT. Mathews will not be paid $14m.

HoF, number retirement. Yes.
Renaming trophies and statues. No.

The Selke trophy will now be called Defensey McDefenseface. Case closed.
- GalacticStone

HoF, number retirement. Yes.
Renaming trophies and statues. No.
- glove_was_stuck

Agreed

Why? Because he's won in more? If a player comes along soon who wins it 7 times, do we change it again? I grew up watching hockey in the 80's and not knowing who Frank Selke, Ted Lindsay, Art Ross, Cecil Hart, or James Norris were but I didn't care. I knew it was part of the history of the game and that meant more to me than who the person actually was.

This new movement is sports to have everything updated to names people are familiar with is silly and denigrates the sports history. Bob Gainey won the Selke 4 times in a row. Why didn't they rename it after him at some point long before Bergeron ever came along? I'll tell you why, because people didn't care about something so trivial as the awards name. They new what it meant. In 50 years people won't know Bergeron from Bergevin, but does that mean they change the name...again?

And for that reason it doesn't matter if people know who Selke was or not. Should the Lombardi be named after Tom Brady like a lot of dunces are clamoring for? Should the Cy Young Award be named after Roger Clemens, too? Why does everything have to be contemporized now to suit the current fickle generations? Any new awards should be named after newer players, but leave old awards and their namesakes alone.

Besides, he just NOW retired. At least wait until he's in the HOF for cripe sakes before he gets an award named after him.

Why? Because he's won in more? If a player comes along soon who wins it 7 times, do we change it again? I grew up watching hockey in the 80's and not knowing who Frank Selke, Ted Lindsay, Art Ross, Cecil Hart, or James Norris were but I didn't care. I knew it was part of the history of the game and that meant more to me than who the person actually was.

This new movement is sports to have everything updated to names people are familiar with is silly and denigrates the sports history. Bob Gainey won the Selke 4 times in a row. Why didn't they rename it after him at some point long before Bergeron ever came along? I'll tell you why, because people didn't care about something so trivial as the awards name. They new what it meant. In 50 years people won't know Bergeron from Bergevin, but does that mean they change the name...again?

And for that reason it doesn't matter if people know who Selke was or not. Should the Lombardi be named after Tom Brady like a lot of dunces are clamoring for? Should the Cy Young Award be named after Roger Clemens, too? Why does everything have to be contemporized now to suit the current fickle generations? Any new awards should be named after newer players, but leave old awards and their namesakes alone.

Besides, he just NOW retired. At least wait until he's in the HOF for cripe sakes before he gets an award named after him.
- NJPensfan

Calm down guy

Why? Because he's won in more? If a player comes along soon who wins it 7 times, do we change it again? I grew up watching hockey in the 80's and not knowing who Frank Selke, Ted Lindsay, Art Ross, Cecil Hart, or James Norris were but I didn't care. I knew it was part of the history of the game and that meant more to me than who the person actually was.

This new movement is sports to have everything updated to names people are familiar with is silly and denigrates the sports history. Bob Gainey won the Selke 4 times in a row. Why didn't they rename it after him at some point long before Bergeron ever came along? I'll tell you why, because people didn't care about something so trivial as the awards name. They new what it meant. In 50 years people won't know Bergeron from Bergevin, but does that mean they change the name...again?

And for that reason it doesn't matter if people know who Selke was or not. Should the Lombardi be named after Tom Brady like a lot of dunces are clamoring for? Should the Cy Young Award be named after Roger Clemens, too? Why does everything have to be contemporized now to suit the current fickle generations? Any new awards should be named after newer players, but leave old awards and their namesakes alone.

Besides, he just NOW retired. At least wait until he's in the HOF for cripe sakes before he gets an award named after him.
- NJPensfan

How about the Seth Jones most overrated player award?
- Rang

Overpaid, sure. Considering how many people say he sucks, I'm not sure you can really say he is overrated.

How about the Seth Jones most overrated player award?
- Rang

No -you probably want to give equity a chance to spread it around. Right now his contract takes the place of what you are asking for.