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Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 16 @ 12:12 AM ET
I hear you on DB. He's got a lot of work to do thanks to Chuckles. We can't expect instant miracles here. I'm willing to give DB a chance. We also have to remember that the players that we biotch about all season are not that appealing to other teams for a reason (performance, contract, etc). It's going to take time, so all we can do is see how it plays out.
- Don Nachbaur


Not for nothing and I know DB wasn't in charge but he was part of the leadership group (Fletcher's assistant) that brought in Tony. We also know that Fletcher doesn't make moves unless everyone is on board (that way nobody can point fingers at him). Doesn't that suggest that Danny was on board with Tony's signing as we know he was with the ND signing?

It just seems like some people are treating it like DB, even though he wasn't in charge, wasn't here and agreement with Chuck/Torts on a lot of the moves that were made. The team only fired one person, kept everyone else, and hired Keith to do the PR work (not to make hockey decisions).
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jul 16 @ 6:25 AM ET
Hey Bill if not already mentioned, Lew Morrison passed yesterday. He bartended at my local watering hole down in South Jersey after his career was over. Really great guy, nice to everyone. Fun fact, I believe he assisted on Bobby Clark’s first NHL goal. Rip Lew !
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 16 @ 6:41 AM ET
I'd love to know what really goes on "in the room." I find it hard to believe that TDA eating with the team while injured was the only reason that caused Torts to turn on him so quickly after playing him in all situations the whole season. I was never a Torts fan (especially for this team) but I am far from being a hater that thinks he is so evil that he controls everything. The TDA situation is rather alarming. I can see Hayes but TDA to me, despite his defensive flaws didn't appear to be lazy, coasting, etc.
- Don Nachbaur


DeAngelo was scratched seven times last season (including each of the last five games). He was moved down to the third pair in the second half of the season. Torts also apparently called him out various times in video sessions. There was also the NHL suspension from the spearing incident with Perry.

In general, Tortorella spent much of the season seemingly annoyed with TDA. The final straw appeared to be whatever happened surrounding the April 4 game in St. Louis because TDA was scratched in each of the five remaining games afterwards (including the game where the Flyers only had 5 D).


Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Jul 16 @ 7:08 AM ET
Getting rid of Tony DeAngelo is a good thing, no matter how it happens.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 16 @ 7:16 AM ET
Hey Bill if not already mentioned, Lew Morrison passed yesterday. He bartended at my local watering hole down in South Jersey after his career was over. Really great guy, nice to everyone. Fun fact, I believe he assisted on Bobby Clark’s first NHL goal. Rip Lew !
- Angus4444


I heard. Lew's son, Ryan, contacted the Alumni yesterday to inform the organization of the sad news.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:30 AM ET
I'd love to know what really goes on "in the room." I find it hard to believe that TDA eating with the team while injured was the only reason that caused Torts to turn on him so quickly after playing him in all situations the whole season. I was never a Torts fan (especially for this team) but I am far from being a hater that thinks he is so evil that he controls everything. The TDA situation is rather alarming. I can see Hayes but TDA to me, despite his defensive flaws didn't appear to be lazy, coasting, etc.
- Don Nachbaur


From all the different things that have leaked out both TDA and Hayes were very well liked in the room. Hayes especially. The issue with both is they weren’t buying in the way Torts wanted them to play consistently. Both guys are offensive players but hardly good enough to continually f things up when it came to systems and situational decisions on the ice. Hayes sometimes looked lazy, but that to me is more a skating style for a big man. I also agree TDA never looked Lazy or lackadaisical to me.
The issue with both guys wasn’t the teammates it was the coaching staff.
I’m not alarmed at all by changes we are making….The Philadelphia Flyers are not a bad hockey team with a bunch of great players.
Pompous
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ruskin, FL
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 16 @ 9:30 AM ET
more like a poop show. They should just have waived him to the phantoms and waited him out to not report and then terminate his contract
- Bayareaflyer


If the team did this, it would be awkward.
The contracts and money problems will dissipate.
A reputation for being complete Richards would last much longer.
No reason to sully what is one of our strengths, traditionally treating the organization's members with class and dignity.
Don't shoot those bbs at me. I know it hasn't always been smooth and polished in every instance but Philly has a good/great rep that attracts.
Treating pros as schmos is not befitting us.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 16 @ 9:37 AM ET
cant wait to see where Tony D ends up. Isles be a good fit. What teams have a terrible PP that can use his skill set?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:49 AM ET
What's done is done. They were going to get rid of DeAngelo regardless.
- bmeltzer


That doesn’t change the fact that this organization is and has been a wreck for the last 5-7 years
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 16 @ 9:51 AM ET
That doesn’t change the fact that this organization is and has been a wreck for the last 5-7 years
- corduroy

I cant wait until who the next player who ends up in the dog house and the coach wants removed.

Take a poll on who that will be. Excluding Sanheim.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 16 @ 10:24 AM ET
That doesn’t change the fact that this organization is and has been a wreck for the last 5-7 years
- corduroy

Hence the what’s done is done
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